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Haven't followed that tour at all. Any interesting matches planned for the final night ?

Anglo-saxons invented political correctness. :p (for those who wonder, "putaclic", or "pute à clics" as our friend from the Province de Quebec so eloquently wrote, literally means '"click whore", and is used all the time in France)

La Francophonie en force !

You're a troll, that's nothing new, but since it's a boring Sunday, here we go I stopped watching WWF consistently in the Summer of 99. By then, I wasn't aware of any of those things yet, I think I learned most of them in the infamous DVDVR Sleaze Thread, on the green board. Never subscribed to the Observer (well, I did not know it even existed before I got online anyway). Last time I ever spent a dime on WWF was in 1999. From there, I watched a few PPV from 2000 and 2001 (Rumble, Mania, SummerSlam I believe). Then, blank for many, many years. Watched a bunch of contemporary (pimped stuff like Eddie vs Lesnar and such, at that time) matches for the Smarkchoice GOAT poll in 2006. I believe I've watched a bunch of PPV here and there from the mid-00's, but I was pretty removed already when the Benoit stuff happened (I have seen most of Manias from this period way after the fact). I slowly got more intrigued I believe around 2012/2013 I think, although I would only watch a few PPV there and there, around the time Bryan got over. In 2016 I began watching more PPV's because I could watch them with French commentary on my TV, but I was never a fan of the style at all, that's well-documented. I was mostly supportive of the girls in the last two/years and was enjoying the threads on the board more than the PPV's. Apart from a few nostalgia RAW shows and some post-Mania edition in the mid-2010s, I don't think I have watched a complete TV show since 1999 (and really, I haven't watched an actual TV show in years apart from when a match was really pimped). During this time, I always was pretty disgusted and was vocal about the Warrior/Snuka canonization and the various scandals (like hazing bullshit and such), and I always designated WWE as a crummy company. And yes, the Saudi deal was the last straw. So, you don't know jack shit and your piss-poor excuse for an argument is irrelevant. Again, very poor trolling, but why should we expect more from you at this point ? (BTW, using an alt-right denomination is a pretty failed attempt at irony here). Then again, you've been nothing but a troll on this board, so there goes my time being wasted...

The bolded part is pretty fucking hilarious and shows how ignorant you are about me (and why wouldn't you ? You don't know me, you just assume and troll). As far as moral consistency, well, I have stopped watching (the few stuff I was watching to begin with) altogether because of the Saudi deal at this point, so yeah, I'm more consistent than most I'm sorry to say. No. I'm not into hashtags. I'm into consistency with what I find unacceptable.

How do you know ? You know the guy today ? Maybe he's still a racist fuck, in which case, fuck him. Maybe he has changed for the better. I have no idea (nor do I care). But acting outrage and passing judgement because of some shit on a message board 10 years ago and acting all higher than thou because of it, yeah, it's ridiculous. One exemple. The other day I was searching for this blogger I used to read a few years ago. She's an handicapped girl who was writing tons of interesting stuff. Very pro-LGBT activist, tons of insightful thing on the status of handicapped people etc... Well, I have no idea how it happened, but she apparently has turned into a nationalist alt-right activist now. Depressing. So, what is the real her ? If you take stuff from her old blog from 5 years ago, she seemed quite the super good person. Is this still valid now because you can trace it on the Internet ? Does the fact she has done a 180° means anything or is the real her still the one from 2013 ? Well, the answer is obvious (and sad). But maybe you think that only works one way. Which is a pretty depressing conception of things in which you can only go from good to bad, and not the other way around. Anyway, I'm done ranting. This is not about Lars Sullivan, whom for all I know might totally be a complete racist dickhead still (again, fuck him if that's the case), but the whole "hey, look at this stuff from 11 years ago, #OUTRAGE !!!!" is just dumb.

Not when all the situations are interconnected. We're talking about WWE employees. Plus it's really not a matter of excusing anything, on the contrary. It's a matter of major hypocrisy from the #outrage crowd. Acting outraged at isolated offensive attitude/actions by WWE employee while still supporting the company shows a total disconnect with reality and total hypocrisy. Godawful, embarrassing analogy that has nothing to do with anything.

Basically if A is bad and B is godawful, you can't ask A to be fired by/from B for moral reasons, especially if in the end it's because it makes you feel better about watching B's product without bad element A in it, despite B being much worse than A in the grand scheme of things. (not singling out anyone on the board BTW, just making a point about yet another fake outrage "putaclic", as we say in French, article)

One individual saying stupid shit on a message board 10 years ago (for lack of other evidence presented of him saying racist shit in 2018 thus far) = Public traded corporation signing multimillion dollars contract to do propaganda work for a criminal regime (in 2018). Ok. No difference level of bad game...

Callahan vs Lawlor was everything the Havoc match wasn't. Really good garbage brawl. Callahan is pretty damn consistent in those, and Filthy Tom really impressed me in this context. One of the best Fusion match, easily. It's odd, I always enjoyed the pairing of Vampiro & Striker in LU (and even during drunken Triplemanias), but on Fusion, Striker often comes off quite annoying to me and he detracts from Schiavone's work. I mean, the idea that Low-ki shaved head is like "pins & needles" when he shoves his head against his opponent's chest, for fuck's sake.

This. It's ridiculous. But people love pointing fingers, it's a way to feel better about themselves. Really now, I don't care one way or another, but a bunch of posts on an internet board 10 years ago ? How does that even compare to the WWE doing actual propaganda for the criminal Saudi regime ? But we should expect those morally immaculate WWE executives to take actions against this guy, so people can comfortably mark out to NXT on the Network, as they give 9,99$ every month to that great company who does propaganda for the Saudi regime (and financed Trump's campaign, and uses the name of a relentless homophobe to to PR charity work every year etc etc etc ....). Major disconnect.

Can we dig up the stuff AJ said about homosexuals too then ?

Twitter pro-wrestling is the worst. Wait. Twitter is the worst.

Thank you for providing the details of the story. It's just awful.

In other news, Salina de la Renta is petitioning to remove the licence of a PR wrestler who basically threw a cinderblock on a back on another guy's head. https://www.change.org/p/luchadores-retiro-de-licencia-de-luchador-a-hector-pérez-porro-conocido-como-angel-o-demonio?utm_content=okt_psf_wa_shlinks%3Ashlink&recruiter=885135958&utm_source=share_petition&utm_campaign=psf_combo_share_abi.pacific_abi_select_all_contacts.select_all.pacific_email_copy_en_gb_4.v1.pacific_email_copy_en_us_5.v1.pacific_email_copy_en_us_3.control.pacific_post_sap_share_gmail_abi.control.lightning_2primary_share_options_more.control&utm_medium=whatsapp (the video is absolutely pretty upsetting, what the hell was that ?)

I'm becoming a Hart Foundation fan (I wonder how they can use the name though). Pillman Jr.'s got a whole lot of potential. Teddy Hart is insane. Seriously, doomsday device-style canadian destroyer ? I'm there. And of course, Harry is Harry, and he's got style too in this context (as opposed to just be a big gaijin bully in NJ, which he portrays really well too). I guess theis super smooth hip-hop instrumental theme doesn't hurt. Marko Stunt is a nice novelty I guess. It's gonna be fun watch him get killed seven ways to Sunday.

It was such a depressing time following the news around FMW back then. You're doing a terrific job with this project BTW.

Not really. That being said, I do enjoy browsing through the ppv threads, like I used to when I wasn't watching regularly to see what could appeal to me and cherry pick (plus at some point reading the threads was the best part of the PPV's anyway). I guess I posted this time purely out of habit. Of course you are. But that's ok. "None taken". But that makes two, wait, three unecessary posts by now, including that one. I could (since I don't have to pay for it anyway). But is it necessary ? Not really.

I didn't think so. For two guys who pack up more than 100 years, it was a perfectly fine match. I guess expectations are running wild these days. Since the craziness aspect is a part of every PCO match, that damn bump from the top rope to the apron was fucking insane. The never-ending promo/translation stuff at the end was kinda messy, although I liked the fact it looked organic. On the other hand, Havoc vs Callahan was a letdown, but I guess I just don't care one bit for Havoc. The whole staples and papercuts with lemon & salt is just for shits and giggles and it gets old very quick (especially the papercut nonsense). I expected a blood & guts match, I got some not funny indy comedy match... Considering the stuff Callahan has done in LU or iMPACT, this kinda sucked (but again, Havoc stuff usually does).

I guess the one match I would have loved is Charlotte vs Ronda. Oh well...

Tanahashi, Omega, Fenix, Ospreay, Ishii, ZSJ

Unless any strong feedback, not interested in this week's show either. Can't bear to listen to them waxing poetics about how "great storytelling" Survivor Series 98 was. It was the first event that put a real dent in my WWF fandom back then, where the booking of the big swerve was more important than the actual pro-wrestling (the entire card pretty much sucked as far as in-ring action went).

And Owen Hart vs Brian Pillman (with Terri Runnels dressed as a whore), having a fake-ass match on purpose, just a few weeks (days ?) before Pillman's death.

Exhibit #X of why 2018 has been the craziest and most exciting year in pro-wrestling in 20 years : just browse Youtube and you get to watch Pentagon Jr. vs L.A. Park having a terrific, terrific garbagey brawl, announced by Tony fucking Schiavone. I really liked Salina wearing LA Park's colors too, cool aesthetic detail, the kind of which I always loved in old-school wrestling (Jimmy Hart's outfit, Rick Rude's tights). Is LA Park really 53 ? Seems insane considering how well he bumps and execute his spots. Back to back winner matches involving the Lucha Brothers too, which I'm glad I get to see more of outside of LU.