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FWIW, the most fun I had watching Hogan work (hell, the only time I really had fun, although I do like some of his WWF work) was during his Hollywood Hogan era, when he had his working shoes on and was really good playing heel, even making one-hip Piper look good and looking better than Ric Flair was at the same time.

"the myth that Hogan was good in Japan" was probably a quote from me. And yeah, I still stand strong about it. The idea that Hogan was somewhat much better in Japan came from the fact he used to show a little bit more and that he didn't Hulk up, but after a while you realize he was just doing the same crappy looking routine that looked cool the first time you see it because it's unexpected. Hogan in the 80's didn't strike me as much better, the Inoki matches are painfull. Yeah, Stan Hansen beats him up to one of his best matches over there, but then again, Stan is a #1 contender for best ever. I hope Hogan drops today.

Funny thing is that I never cared much for the classics, neither in movies nor in music. It has to follow a personnal path. Watching a classic because it's a classic just feels like homework to me and I usually don't care that much at the end. That's why I can understand the importance of "Breathless" but I won't get much out of it. I have no particular interest in Bob Dylan's music so I couldn't care less about listening to his stuff. Maybe I'm missing out. Probably not, life is short. Then again, the day I got into free jazz, I felt the need to listen to "The shape of jazz to come" and loved it (although it took a while because, ya know, free jazz). So there are the classics I care about and the ones I don't. Anyway, this is drifting away from PWO.

It has also been put in question as it as happening by the Positif review, and it's pretty much recognized now that they were *wrong* on several issues. Plus the auteur theory has done its share of damage to the mentality of producers/filmmakers too. Andre Bazin also critiqued it at the time and he was their mentor as you know. One of his criticisms was that a true auteurist would automatically find a second-rate film by an auteur to be superior to a first-rate film by a non-auteur, which he thought to be nonsense. I think that was in retaliation to Eric Rhomer "demolishing" John Houston, a director whom Bazin admired. To tie this back to the GWE, since many of us apply an auteurist approach to wrestling, I wonder how many of us are guilty of Bazin's criticism. Is that second-rate Dibiase match truly better than a first-rate Shawn Michaels match? Yeah. Chabrol also said later that they demolished movies that didn't deserve it and were actually really good (aka, the Takada's ). Plus, just like PWO, it's not like they all agreed. They were very different people with very different tastes, but they had common disdain for the same stuff. Your exemple doesn't work though because first-rate DiBiase isn't nearly as good as first rate Michaels to begin with. But yeah, I agree. The whole "Flair's good matches are better than most workers great matches", which is of course ridiculous. Then again, at this point, I'd rather watch a really good Choshu match than a great Liger match for instance.

Exploring and discovering new things is great. But more often than not, what's pimped as better than the old boring picks in these discoveries end up being, well, not really better at all and only pimped that hard because it's new and exciting and exotic. When I listen to Anatolian Pop, I won't say everything is awesome and better than every classic I've ever listened to because I'm excited about it. I try to keep an objective ear. Sure, Elektronik Türküler by Erkin Koray and the first Selda LP's are indeed masterpieces, and there are other great stuff there and I'd rather listen to this than any Bob Dylan or Rolling Stone classic stuff (but I really don't listen to either Dylan or the Stones to begin with). But there are also some stuff that just aren't as good yet are pimped as awesome and important by vinyl collectors and hipsters because it's the new thing and cool labels are re-releasing it. Bunalim's compilation is good, with a few great tracks, but it's a *good* overview of a footnote of a band, not an amazing album. Anyway, dunno why I went on a tangent here. Probably because I'm been immersed on this stuff for a while now. All I want to say is that discovering new things is awesome and super fun but it doesn't mean the classics are now boring. In the end, you'll always come back to it. That's what makes them classics I guess. Or maybe not, as a guy who'd rather listen to minor albums or minor bands sometimes, maybe Dan is absolutely right after all.

Your tastes were so much better then, Dylan.

I'm glad the links don't work. I absolutely don't want to see some probably idiotic stuff I said back then ! Plus I was probably a much bigger asshole than I am now.

It has also been put in question as it as happening by the Positif review, and it's pretty much recognized now that they were *wrong* on several issues. Plus the auteur theory has done its share of damage to the mentality of producers/filmmakers too.

Me too. And honestly, that's so lame if that's the case (not Flair winning, although it is in a way, but Flair winning because of this).

I kinda remembered it was brutal, but I forgot all of this !

In case of Yoshida, she basically left Zenjo where she was doing the traditional go-go-go house style and when she debuted in ARSION she already had created her own style in which she trained the girls like Fukawa into. Didn't took her long at all.

Damn, even your Iphone fell asleep at the mere mention of Dory. Wow, the quality has been great overall, but this is the post of the project for me. At your service.

Damn, even your Iphone fell asleep at the mere mention of Dory.

Not all of us. Well, Chiggy has been great at one point, if you can stomach the 80's schoolgirl era. She was still pretty damn good when she came back to work some shows in the early 90's. Chiggy in GAEA... not so much. Not great by any stretch of the imagination anyway.

I voted for 5 of them, and I don't even disagree. Well, I think Foley deserves the top 100 though. Hey, Chiggy ! We barely knew you.

Masa Fuchi was my #95. He really held on well, which is what he did his entire career. Always there, always solid, with a terrific peak as a complete asshole punking Kikuchi in Jumbo's trios.

Sting above Jaguar Yokota. I don't remember any huge Sting pimping during the process either, how did he got so fucking high anyway ?

Toyota is one of the best woman if Shawn Michaels is one of the best man. Basically anything outside classic era Zenjo big names got shortchanged. Joshi fell out of fashion so it shouldn't be surprising. Still, with all this talk of footage explosion, it seems to me the Top 100 will be very conservative, US guy oriented + the usual suspects.

Insane that Jaguar doesn't make the top 100. Just insane. She was my #51. So what's gonna be left for the women ? Toyota I guess with Hokuto and hopefully Aja & Bull.

Sasuke is another one from my 2006 list that didn't make it this time around, I was never as high on him as others, although if I had rewatched his peak years maybe I would have included him. Lots of juniors/lucharesu guys didn't make my list.

The KENTA pic is a wonderful troll. Well done again ! Jerry Blackwell could have made my list. I love him as a heel. I'm not that fond of his babyface work sadly, which is probably why he didn't made the cut.

PPV 36 Greatest PPV opener ever ! Hacksaw Jim Duggan is proud of going to war against Irak and tells France and Germany to « stay out of our way ! » I always hated Duggan’s dumbfuck jingoist gimmick. Realy worked out well, that war in Irak deal to find Ben Laden and mass destruction weapons, uh ? Ah, pro-wrestling and geopolitics. This was a pretty bad show anyway except for the main event and the X-div match (against all odds). Well, XXX vs The Church was pretty decent actually and Malice came back so we can get a six-men feud, which could be fun for a while. Babyface Brian Lee does an awful looking tope. Crowd chanting « Evil ! » still is funny. Week 5 of Jerry Lynn not getting his X-division title match he gained by winning the gauntlet match, and tagging with Jason Cross vs Juvy & Konnan didn’t do him any favors. The stuff with Juvy was sloppy and contrived Eddielenko sequences. Tease of Juvy and Konnan not really getting along, and Konnan is just as bad as ever. I'm not feeling where this is going now. The debut of D-Lo wasn’t exactly thrilling although he looked good against the three Second Generationers, tagging with Jarrett & Dusty. Really, we don’t need Dusty in the ring regularly. They try to paint Watts as this great mastermind, but no one’s buying it at all. He looks like an overgrown Don Callis without the wit. D-Lo’s deal is that, since he’s a WWE guy, he gets a World Title shot from scratch. Yeah, that mentality was there from the beginning. His outfit, complete with black T-shirt, screams « I'm not a star » too. Jeff looked bad coming in as a house of tedious fire. When Brian Lawler is the second best in a match in 2003… Stupid angle with hanging threat and shit after Ron Killings turned from nowhere. So now we have AJ Styles, Raven, Erik Watts, Ron Killings & D-Lo Brown more or less feuding with Jarrett. Overkill anyone ? Then what ? Duggan & Moondog Spot (don’t ask) vs Disco & Sanders. DON'T ASK. Sonny Siaki dropping Athena on her head because she wouldn’t show her boobs. This show gets classier by the weeks. Card was saved by the heelish attitude of Kid Kash, who’s going to turn because he’s jealous of Trinity. So, Triple Threat match with Trinity & Amazing Red and it was actually well put together with Trinity being bumped hard twice outside so we get a regular match until she could come back for some short action that wouldn’t expose her too much. Plus Kash working heel is a thousand times better than him just hitting spots sloppily. Trinity got screwed just before she could do a moonsault. And mostly, card was saved by AJ Styles vs Raven in a garbage/ladder match for the N°1 contender. Seriously, AJ Styles is so good already, cool maneurisms, smart use of plunders, good sense of pacing. And Raven I think as never been as good of a worker either. I love the way he sells the shots and bumps around, whith some great facials rendered even better by the blood all over his face and crazy hair. I can even deal with the run-in since it actually led to a logical finish. So Raven won. If we apply the Jerry Lynn rule, he’ll never get his title shot. 2003/03/19 Kid Kash vs Amazing Red vs Trinity 2003/03/19 AJ Styles vs Raven

Some "right" names have dropped off already.

Yeah, me too. Especially when you see most of the so-called "niche" worker taking a dive compared to 2006, when Hogan and The Rock haven't showed up yet. Makes you wonder a bit.

Like at Mania, Trip gets the best entrance.