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Hey, no one from my list yet ! Glad we got rid of Kerry already. Overrated worker. His great matches aren't that great, except Jumbo's, which is an all-time great performance by Tsuruta. The claw is dumb as fuck. And all the Von Erich throw awkard looking punches. Hey, actually, John Cena is the best Kerry von Erich ever ! Kerry is like the Bulldog to me, a talented piece of luggage. Except Bulldog had way more raw talent.
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(I'm sure the unveiling will happen when I'm in the plane... damn)
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Blame me for not taking the time to watch that insane amount of PR TV I downloaded once (I say that for PR as a whole, no idea if I would have ranked Colon).
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NWA-TNA 2003 aka a passive-agressive way to deal with depression
El-P replied to El-P's topic in Pro Wrestling
Gordi ! So cool to hear from you ! Life in Japan still good ? -
Aside from everything else that's been said to debunk this nonsense: chops make more sense than punches from a biological standpoint in a worked match. You really can chop a guy in the chest as hard as you possibly can, a hundred times in a row, and have him still come back for more. In what universe can you punch a guy in the head as hard as you possibly can a hundred times in a row (clean shots, not the grazing jabs that count for points in boxing matches) and have them still be as fresh as a daisy, or even not break your own hand? One of the most common complaints you'll hear over and over again from non-fans after watching an average American match is "it's ridiculous that they hit each other that many times in the face and nobody even has a black eye". This. Plus, since they actually chop each other to pieces like in the infamous Kobashi vs Sasaki match, the skin does turn blue. Throwing a gazillion punches to the face with basically no effect just looks stupid in the end, especially when you never win the match with, well, a final punch. Punching a guy in the face is not akin to slapping his chest with an open hand. So yeah, there's a difference. Not saying chop exchanges can't be lazy as fuck, as Benoit used to do in WWE for instance. The Kobashi vs Sasaki spectacle was amazing and it was a good fit for this match and its setting. And it's the fact they go so long that makes it great, because it's so ridiculous no one expects them to go to those lenghts. When it became just a formula, it became as dumb as a Ric Flair goof spot. Fun and dumb. And when Kojima did his own version, it became just bad.
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Voted for 13 of them. There are a bunch of them I voted for in 2006 than I didn't vote for in 2016. Off this bunch, I only regret not voting for Devil Masami again.
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Voted for four of them. Could have voted for six from memories.
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You can't possibly be boring if you had Nobuhiko Takada is your top 30 in 2016. From my top 30, Takada, Ozaki, Yoshida and Sano are gone, in that order.
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The answer is yes. Especially the forearms ones. Drove me away each time I tried to watch puro in the late 00's.
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In what ways ? I didn't rate Lawler in 2006, I rated him this time around. Plenty of guys I loved in the 90's have dropped from my list too. My rating of Takada comes from rewatch of UWF and UWF-I/NJ done in the 2010's up until last fall. I rated Nick Bockwinckle in my top ten, way ahead of Flair. Bock wasn't even in my list in 2006. I could go one. So, really, not at all.
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Hey now all that money I used to spend on shipping actual fucking VHS tapes to and from my house back in the day was totally worth it. I threw some money down the drain. No idea what to do with those NTSC VHS nowadays.
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No-sell comeback + piledriver. Punches amounted to shit since it wa 95% of his offense. But anyway, I never bought in the Lawler hype as this GOAT candidate and miracle worker. I like Lawler quite a bit, I think he's very good and I love some of his feuds. I guess it's not enough.
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Offense = punch. Defense = punch. Comeback = punch. At some point, do something else. Like, anything else, even basic stuff. Please. It's just lazy now. Plus at some point, if you throw a terrific looking punch but at the end of the day you can't punch out your opponent for good, you're actually a shitty puncher kayfabe-wise, no matter how good it looks. But the killer is the no-selling comeback a-la Hogan. Wait, Lawler hasn't showed up yet ? My bad. (I voted for Lawler. But in the lower end of my top 100)
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Luckily we're past the workrate mentality that included wisdom like "chops=great tehnical wrestling" and pretended amount of moves used is a valid criteria to judge wrestlers on.Personally I still like that some people talk about 'limited movesets' because I take those 2 words as a code that means 'ignore everything I say about wrestling' The criticism for "throwing a gazillion punches" has nothing to do with limited moveset actually. I'm a Choshu guy, so, moveset, really...
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Throwing a gazillion punches per match really betrays you as a not so great worker anyway. Oh wait...
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I just noticed that I voted for Takako Inoue. Who wasn't nominated. That sucks. She was my #60.
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They look like shitty open slap. Still look better than Cena's.
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Dusty in the top 100 isn't a good news at all. Neither are Kerry von Erich, Hulk Hogan, Undertaker...
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Like John Cena's you mean ?
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Yeah ! Backlund makes it !
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34 down. The fact Oz, Takada (although expected), Maeda, Yokota and Kyoko don't make the top 100 seems absurd to me considering some names who are left. I regret voting for my #34. I feel like, apart from a few huge favourites of the last decade (Lawler, both Fujis, Rose), the top 100 will seem pretty conservative compared to the 2006 one.
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And The Rock misses the top 100. Damn... Hogan... I must say I began enjoying The Rock during the 2006 poll.
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I'm shocked Larry Z. did so well. Good for him. Waltman was my #69. Maeda my #53. The shoot-style kings are taking a beatdown. Couldn't care less about these other guys dropping.
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Slaughter... Ok, that's all I can think of.
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NWA-TNA 2003 aka a passive-agressive way to deal with depression
El-P replied to El-P's topic in Pro Wrestling
PPV 37 Not a good show, but enough interesting stuff to hold my interest at least. It has to be said that Glen Gilberti does a rather decent job as the new serious leader of SEX. Sure, the stable sucks, but he’s really a decent promo. Jerry Lynn doesn’t get his X-division title shot week 6. Yeah, I know it’s probably been forgotten, but I’m gonna be consistent about it. Someone has to. So he finally gets Konnan and has a watchable Nitro match with him, which is an accomplishment in itself. Meanwhile, AJ Styles (who called Disco a « faggot », which makes him de facto a babfyface in TNA I guess. BTW, BJ James has disappeared and he’s not missed at all) gets the best Mike Sanders match possible too. Interesting how the two X-div aces get to show their talent this week. Another surprisingly good match, but this time actually good, D-Lo Brown vs Chris Harris. Sprint, but nicely done, I never thought Harris had this in him, while D-Lo looks even better than I remembered, although I’m not that familiar with his post 99 work. Overbooked finish because Disco is protecting D-Lo as he wants him to beat Jarrett and join SEX, as told in a three way promo segment in which Jarrett sounded the worst of the three. And really, they should stop reminding everyone that D-Lo was basically a jabronie in WWE by talking about him being European champ, it makes the TNA championship look like crap if he gets a title match. Oh, and they teased a AMW slip coming up already with Harris wanting to go solo a little bit. Yawn. The whole Second Generation stuff isn’t working at all and isn’t going anywhere. Even Jarrett buries Eric Watts as irrelevant in his promos. What a babyface. Plus, David Flair vs Dusty in a two minutes bunkhouse brawl. No, really, Dusty was cool for a one week appearance with the Road Warriors. But let this die, please. In the cool debut segment of the show, Alexis Laree teams up with Amazing Red vs Kid Kash & Trinity. Mostly fun because I like Mickie James and she was already showing a lot of personnality, slapping Kash like a bitch he is. Match itself was a bit clusterfucky as soon as the women got involved, as James was still green and Trinity can’t do much more than a moonsault, which she did here BTW. Kash is pissed. Are we really going toward Kash vs Trinity ? Because that would not be too good. Some violence against women, Athena again, because Russo is still writing the show. And an overbook cluster of a main event with an interesting yet stupid gimmick in which you can only pin a guy who’s bleeding. Made things confusing for Elix Skipper. So, it was XXX (Skipper & Daniels) & Harris vs Brian Lee & Slash & Sandman (who opened himself before the match with a beer so he can get pinned right away) & Perry Saturn ! Hey ! Saturn ! He was the workhorse of the match too, having good exchange with Daniels. Complete cluster with guys confused about the rule, although the fact it was supposed to be a Church gimmick kinda made sense since the Church guys went for the blood as soon as they got on top. So it turned out ok,especially for a DOA dream match of sorts. Plus we got Ron Killings turning back babyface (WHAT ?) and bringing fucking He-was-called-Mabel-then-Viscera to the ring ! Ah, we were not yet in the days of « we know who this is » because of copyrights, but the feeling for there. Post match was completely ridiculous with everybody involved and Jarrett actually hitting D-Lo with a chair for no good reason. Jarrett is such a shitty babyface. 2003/03/26 D-Lo Brown vs Chris Harris