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    ECW on TNN

    El-P replied to Ditch's topic in Pro Wrestling

    By 1998, ECW wasn't a trendsetter anymore, it was was following the product of the big two. And yes ECW on TNN was copying Raw and Nitro's format instead of doing what ECW was doing before, doing stuff that wasn't done before. I was so sick of the Dudleys that them leaving wasn't a big deal for me, but it did hurt the company since they were their biggest stars arguably. Taz's character as a face champion was so lame most of the time, that I didn't miss him either, although Taz reverting back to the 96 character would have been cool. Mike Awesome was a big blow though, he was on a rampage and looked mre credible than any champion they ever had, he had a major league appeal. Storm was a non factor, he wasn't particulary over nor particulary good. And like I said RVD being injured was a blessing to the shows to me, because I couldn't watch another RVD match at this point. But yeah, there weren't any new stars to make except for Rhino. And the pool from the last territories was dryed uop at this point. Add to that Heyman being burn out. The difference between the heyday of the promotion from 94 to 97 and the TNN days is huge.
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    ECW on TNN

    El-P replied to Ditch's topic in Pro Wrestling

    Hated it. I watched the entire ECW on TNN last year, and quite frankly, after a while, I just ff through the introductions because Gertner was unbearable to me. I love him as the Dudley managers, but in this role, and as a color guy, he was putrid. ECW on TNN was so much worse than Hardcore TV, but I guess it's not fair because the best days of Hardcore TV go along the peak of the promotion. Cyrus and the evil Network was retarded and boring, and although Cyrus got a few good promos out of it, it was mainly very bad. I was surprised to enjoy Rhino as much as I did, as back in the days I used to see nothing in him. I enjoyed the hell out of Justin Credible the douchebag champion, he's getting so much shit for nothing. I enjoyed fat Raven, but I'm a Raven fan. Face Francine dressed as a whore really didn't work at all. The obligatory catfights in every Impact Players matches were annoying as hell, and Dawn Marie really served no purpose at all. Lance Storm really wasn't very good at all, which surprised me. What else, yeah, Mike Awesome ECW champ worked so much more than I thought it had. I liked 2000 more than 1999. By the end, I couldn't bare to watch another RVD match. Hot Commodity was the last bright spot of ECW.
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    And don't forget the best part, "Sunshine". On rewatch, nope, this is not even a good match. Sting's performance is lazy as hell here, it's like a prolongued bad Savage match in which Sting gets stretched for ever then no-sells a backhand slap and beats Regal with two moves. Highly underwhelming.
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    Maekawa is neither forgotten nor underrated. Maekawa is a shitty worker with a shitty attitude. Call it the Hotta syndrome, except uglier and with less talent. Watanabe carried her ass for years in tag, so Maekawa got herself involved in great matches when LCO could do no wrong. Then she got into LCO (ugh), and was carried by Momoe & Nanae. Fucking awful worker. About GAEA, yeah, some early rookies had shitloads of potentials. Rina Ishii I seem to remember was quite good. Of course Chiggy drove them away being Chiggy. Meiko was always overrated by the DVDVR crew. Well, the entire promotion basically was. Sugar Sato was really good before 98, and then got sucked into a suckage circle of suck. Toshie was decent at best. Kato & Nagashima really were the great ones. Hido, I dunno. I guess he can get into the "he's supposed to suck" category, because he was never pimped as anything but The Ugly Guy Who Married Megumi Kudo, but he wasn't that bad. Not that good either, but far from a bad worker. Jd's two judo girls basically are all but forgotten. To the point I don't remember their names ! There was a Megumi something I believe... Damnit... And Bloody's favourite punching bag was really good too.
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    Regal was gold, but Sting's comeback out of the blue selling nothing and ending the match with three moves kinda killed the whole purpose of the match.
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    Rewatching ECW, RVD is a guy that went clearly down. I was never big on the guy, but would have given him more credit 10 years ago. I actually enjoy awkward karate early RVD more than late 90's RVD with all the chairs bullshit. Sabu was a million time more fun than RVD. Their matches were kinda fun carwrecks.
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    Well, the fat guy gets the hottie, it's neat.
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    Er... I think you have them confused with each other. D'oh! I thought the smaller fellow with the shaved head was Hash - who I initially thought was Mutoh, actually, since that's pretty much how he looks these days. :-( I'm just confused about 90's NJPW, obviously. It doesn't stop the match from being great though! This set will be a good exposure for me. Well, this exchange makes me realize that some people actually don't know who Hashimoto and Yamazaki are, and that makes me feel old actually. About the match, I'm not sure I've seen that one, but Hash vs Yamazaki can't be anything but excellent at least.
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    It's odd that they really didn't do that much with her once she got super over. She really didn't manage anyone nor did anything worth of note after she left the Gunns. What a gigantic waste.
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    When I rewatch shitloads of ECW last year, Raven was clearly one of my favourite act of the company. Funny how he gets so much hate here. I love his promos, I love most of his matches, I think he's super efficient. Yeah, it's messy and unathletic, but he'd be the first one to tell you that. I agree the Beulah turn made no sense though. Tommy beats her up senseless and all of a sudden she's pregnant from Tommy ? Not to mention that later it was revealed that she wasn't pregnant, lied to Tommy and was having an affair with Kimona, who was Raven's valet. Which didn't matter in the end because Tommy would take both. Russo sure fell in love with that stuff. But yeah, it did made for some fun moments. Anyway, Raven and Richards had an awesome dynamic together, it was great stuff all along. And yeah, Beulah was hot as hell.
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    Meanwhile, WCW was doing nWo angles. WWF was so out of touch...
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    I agree. This was just perfect, had an out of control, truly unpredictable feel to it, and it had depth. At this point WCW was doing amazing things with the nWo angle.
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    Morley is one of those guys that is really good in the ring, but should be better off shutting the hell up about any other subject.
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    What he said. Yeah. The Austin heel turn was a bad idea because it probably was a bad time, and they fucked him by making him HHH's little buddy, but as a moment, that ending was just amazing, it's brutal. A great wrestling moment.
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    Just an awesome match. I loved the simple, basic NJ style. The story of veteran Riki fighting for a last piece of glory is perfect.
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    That was cheesy as hell, but it was part of wrestling's charm. A thing that is lost today. Who the fuck came out with this idea though ? Windham was pretty out of shape, and he really didn't do anything worthwhile before getting into Blackjack mode. Yeah, I'm the only person who loved the New Blackjacks...
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    This reminds me how much I used to adore RINGS. The most beautiful wrestling matches I've ever seen come from this promotion. Selling is not an important part of the style, I guess it takes some time to get used to it. It's really a different kind of wrestling, but it's wonderful when done by guys like Volk Han, Khosaka or Tamura.
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    Flair was awesome during that time. Really the last time he was the great Ric Flair to me. In the ring he wasn't all that but as a whole, Flair in 96, until the nWo really took over, was awesome. An both women were just smoking. It's so tragic how they ended up dying...
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    Woman looked ridiculously hot. Flair along Woman and Liz was so right on every level.
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    Meanwhile, the Godwinns were feuding with the Smoking Gunns... No wonder why at the time Nitro seemed so major league compared to RAW.
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    Self hatred. That's also why he hates wrestling as a whole I guess, because when you think of it, the best US wrestling comes from the South (Mid-South, Memphis, Crockett). No ?
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    Good Hollywood Hogan match as far as I remember. He could be so much fun with a guy he had good chemistry with (as opposed to that godawful Giant match as Hogg Wild).
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    One character was Russo ? Amazing, I never knew. Which one was he ?
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    I loved the Model gimmick. Martel wasn't given very much opportunity to shine with it, but he also said in his shoot interview that although he loved the gimmick, his mind wasn't focused as much on wrestling at the time, as he was getting into real estate business. Lance Storm on WOL (and the context was, Lance was bitching about poorly written movies) : "Porn is like lucha, it doesn't need too make sense".
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    Pro-wrestling as figure skating already exists. It's called ROH. Anyway, it's a stupid idea. I would guess Mike Oles would like it (yeah, I'm showing my age).
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