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Got it. The most puzzling one was about blackmailing WWE with a porn or something like that. Like, wtf ? The video is pretty clear cut, yeah. Posting a pic of a training session with Marty Scurll in it in this context is like, either completely idiotic, either plain vicious (you never know, although Riddle strikes me as being a completely dumb jock. Broman indeed).

Marty Scurll for ya. Also, have you listened to the latest vid from the ex-girlfriend ? There's nothing consensual about this. From all accounts, the guy comes off as a total dirtbag. No one cares about him being horny or bisexual.

The jokes writes themselves. The guy is, at very least and if nothing else, a complete and utter dumbfuck.

She is very clearly talking of sexual abuse in the last video she posted. Of course the reactions are the expected ones (people always want a "perfect victim"). I wonder if any of this will have any effect, but really now, sure the lawsuit was dropped (secret settlement ? We never knew for sure), but everybody knows this doesn't actually mean anything in the grand scheme of things. Whatever happens next, there's no way any of this is a good look, especially coming off Vince's scandal.

I wondered why Samuel Shaw's theme from TNA, which was great, seemed somewhat familiar. Well, it just occurred to me that it actually was... Pro-wrestling needs more of this.

It is that close to being really uncomfortable. I mean, just a little "And everybody knows why" from Seth and...

In all honesty by the end of his IMPACT stint he was quite ok. Playing Sid in ECW basically. I'm not sure how tall he would look in WWE though. Pretty tall still I think. I'm kinda surprised he hasn't surfaced somewhere yet, he sure looked good in the Wardlow match (hell, it's still one of the most entertaining Wardlow match thus far).

W. Morrissey is a free agent. Get him. Please. With his girlfriend in AEW, I fear something unpleasant might eventually happen.

First PPV in a stadium in Great Britain in 30 years, a Scottish guy in Cardiff, Wales, challenging for the title in front of legit 70.000 people. Yeah Roman's winning. (they should give Drew the win of course, can you picture the pop that would get ? First real Trip era PPV, in a huge setting, in the UK, way to make a statement and a legendary moment)

Maybe years ago, but he's shot now. He was shot the last years of his WWE stint. I'm not sure he's as bad as Gonzalez though. It's top tier shit worker level. But from what I've seen, he's terrible and not improving. But he's really, really big. Maybe Trip will care less about this though.

I got one for you : he sucks. That and the bolded part. I mean, they got Omos, who's bigger. He sucks even more, but he's bigger.

Also, Santana Garrett is back as a coach. Make the Performance Center Great Again !

Trip honeymoon... tik tok tik tok tik tok.....

Yep. Although not only with pro-wrestling, I mean yesterday I learned about Scott Kelly from Neurosis and Win Butler from Arcade Fire... "Regarde les hommes tomber", as we say. And really, there are things we just don't think about. I realize the frosplash is pushing it, because obviously the meaning has nothing creepy about it today, but there's no twisting around the fact of its origin and why Eddie did it, and at times, I have this flash of "Wow, do these people know the entire story ?". Another exemple of things we don't even think about : the NWA champ right now if Trevor Murdoch. A pretty good worker with a cool old-school presentation, who's named after a guy who was a really good pro-wrestler in the 70's and 80's, former partner of Dusty Rhodes and ... possibly maybe a member of the KKK. (although I don't know if the rumors were ever truly confirmed, but there have been a numbers of red flags) And really, this is the story, he's named after Murdoch as a tribute. It's like... ok. Maybe Hansen is a better name. Or Slater. I dunno. But I don't even think about this one usually, this just popped up in my mind because of this discussion.

What's ironic is after all the talk about how great Tim Storm is, well, he's half the announcing team for this show (unless he left after the pre-show, in which case I guess Velvet was there).

Dunno, I don't watch sports apart from sumo. Sons-of are everywhere, it's social reproduction. What annoys me more than anything is the term "wrestling royalty". Considering how fucked up most pro-wrestling family are/were, that's kind of a backward compliment. And mostly, since when is aristocracy considered a good thing anyway ? I dunno, that triggers the French in me I guess.

Thankfully I did not hallucinate ! Yeah, I guess this was a fumble and Hangman taking 10's place is the plan for the finals. Video game, DLC maybe ? People are already posting stuff about them leaving of course.

Nothing to do with what-aboutism. Those are two points I think about regularly. Just a opportunity to drop them in the 'Comment that don't warrant a thread' (EDIT : oh, well, the NWA thread, but really that's so much out of my radar I legit thought I was in the other thread !), much like much thoughts about pro-wrestling families in Japan and such. There's no big conversation about this issue that can be "muddied", especially considering you ended up making pretty much the same remarks anyway (gross, should have talked about Jake instead). I guess my first reaction is that I expected even worse, which says a lot about how much I think about the company (Tyrus, hi).

Yep. Also, I sure hope #10 acting like his knee is fucked up will lead to him being replaced by Hangman Page eventually, leading to a final that actually looks like a final. I could have sworn that the graphics of Dark Order on Dynamite was Silver/Reynolds and a shadow, but I did not check back. Obviously it wasn't the case in the end, but there's no way they make it to the final without Hangman being involved, it would make zero sense.

BTW, and since this is related to the entire "wrestling royaltie" annoying trope that has me cringe every time I hear it (Hi Cody), I was thinking about this recently, the american wrestling business has a lot a wrestling families and second, third and more to come (with now a lot more male/female wrestlers couple) generation wrestlers. Mexico is obviously based on wrestling families. But Japanese pro-wrestling doesn't seem to have as much if any of this. Out of the top of my head, I can think of Rikidozan's son of course, Hana Kimura was the daughter of a joshi wrestler, Hashimoto's kid works in Z1, the son of Red Shoes Uno is a pro-wrestler and may become a star one day, but I can't really think of a lot of generational things with entire families of pro-wrestlers. I wonder what are the cultural/social reasons behind this. I know sumo has some sons of and grandsons-of, though not sure of the extent of it (not paying enough attention), but it's seemingly more than in japanese pro-wrestling.

What are you even taIking about ? I just said it was *gross* and stupid in the post just above and said they should have referred to Jake instead.

Not so sure about that. But I could see Arn managing his son teaming with Pillman as heels, as they were pretty good together at Flair's retirement show (Pillman noticeably better than he probably ever looked in AEW). Or maybe an entire heel groupe with Dustin, although I can't really see Dustin being booed at this stage of his career.

Totally cracked up at the Jade backstage segment, where she's attacked "from nowhere" by Athena. Basically she did not see Athena coming as she was right out of the frame ? I mean, we're here again ? Same kinda thing happened with the Hook segment, where 2.0 literally entered the frame as Hook was leaving (which was pointed out by Lexy, who's doing a really good job with what she's given). These backstage segments needs some serious work in term of pacing, they always come off rushed as hell (which is kind of an issue in general, they switch from one segment to another way too quickly sometime).

Well, that's not what I'd call "talking positively about Grizzly Smith contribution to pro-wrestling". From what I get and without having heard it, they referred to his family when his grand-daughter was debuting, and as he was the patriarch they name-dropped him, and although it's indeed gross and it would have taken two seconds to realize that saying "Jake Roberts' family" would have accomplished the exact same thing without making a really stupid reference, it's not exactly what's it's made out to be either. The cult of old-school territory wrestling is gonna make you say some good stuff about some abhorrent human beings. Which is one reason this period should always be considered with caution, to say the least. I wonder if people realize than whenever they cheer for the frogsplash (and pay tribute to Eddie), they actually pay tribute to a guy who was charged of raping an underage girl by proxy (Eddie first did the frogsplash to pay tribute to Art Barr, as it was his finisher).

Any clips of this ? Pro-wrestling as it used to be, indeed. Wait for Tyrus to win the damn title now.