Strummer

I can't knock him too much since he works his ass of and is by far the best but Dave's daily updates on the Observer site have been complete shit now for going on a year or more. Either he's saving it for the Newsletter or not much is happening/lack of sources but they've been boring as hell

yeah I know it was just weird to see the announcers outright say that about a current performer It wasn't a burial or anything I realize

I thought it was a joke too but I don't think Dave and company will take it that way

they showed a clip of the Lesnar suplex on Big Show that broke the ring and Punk pretended not to know who Lesnar was

Tonight's RAW was a good example of this with WWE driving home that the stars during the Attiutude are better than the wrestlers today. Cole and Lawler ouright said that CM Punk will never be as good as Rock and I always LOL at WWE pretending RAW didn't exist from 1994-1996

oh man with WWE taking a shot at Lesnar tonight Dave probably has smoke coming out of his ears

Sherri looked great in early 1993 (with a noticeably bigger chest which makes me wonder if she had work done while selling the mirror angle) That catfight and entire segment was awesome. I couldn't believe the WWE would air something like that at that time with Sherri basically falling out of her top Sherri failed a drug test before the feud could even get going though

good point Coffey. You can make the argument that the WWE hasn't really changed its promotional style at all in the past 27 years

It's difficult to put into words like Loss said but I would say that current WWE is more *stale* than necessarily bad I think the product is much better now than it was from 2002-2005 (02 and 03 were dreadful, especially 03) I will say that there does seem to be a genuine attempt to create new stars now. But with how WWE has booked for the last 25+ years Vince just isn't going to let his top guys be thrown around and do a bunch of jobs. That's just not how WWE (save for a few instances I guess) has ever booked. WWE TV has at least seemed somewhat fresh this year with all the influx of new talent but the general presentation is sorely needing a reboot TNA, well just look at Bischoff's recent commentaries to see why they are in this rut and Vince always claimed that the reason why the WWF never acknowledged history was because they wanted you to believe the current stars and the next shows were the best or were going to be the best. Every WM was going to be the "best one" For whatever reason they've stopped doing that. Probably because Vince just can't get the attitude era out of his mind because it brought him so much wealth and glory

well sounds like she has a serious problem. She's only 24. Hopefully she can turn it around and maybe get another shot. Maybe

a discussion of the RTC at another board group prompted this What happened wiith the angle between RTC and Stacey Carter ? This was of course the same day Carter was fired and Jerry Lawler quit the company but I remember there being a secondary issue over the angle itself and how they were changing things and it had to do with controversy over a scene between Ivory and Carter. IIRC Ivory was going to be sent into a room to "convert" Carter. There would be cuts to a closed door with moaning going on inside and then they would show Ivory exiting the door looking flustered and buttoning up her shirt was this a WWE decision not to air this or UPN? In 2001 I can't see this being a WWE decision

Honestly I don't think Mick realizes how out of the loop he is by being in TNA.I mean it's a joke promotion with a million or so die hards who watch each week. Kurt Angle and Kevin Nash constantly tell stories of meeting people in airports who have no idea they still wrestle and have no clue what TNA is. To Mick it's like it's still 1998 or at least 2004. Kind of sad actually

Bischoff at it again bashing the WWE's "youth movement"

with Nexus going over so strong the last couple of months and with Cena doing a handful of jobs lately I was kind of expecting Cena to go over that's just the way WWE books

someone's losing their job over that pretty inexcusable although I doubt it means much in terms of business

I think you're spot on with that. The post Summerslam shows in Sept. and Oct. seemed like different shows with all the short matches and tons iof run ins, dqs and swerves. That kind of booking starting in late 97/early 98 but by fall 98 it was the norm and yes the build to Summerslam 98 was fantastic. BTW in Russo's shoot he claims he wanted Undertaker to turn heel in the build up on Austin but Vince vetoed it

I seem to remember all the pun, "play on words" characters during the New Generation years were his doing

Pat Patterson was the brain child of some of the most dramatic match layouts in wrestling history but he also nearly killed the company with his booking while Vince was on trial It's head scratching to realize that a guy who created the Royal Rumble Match and coached Rock into being a mega star also came up with some of the worst gimmicks in wrestling history I did this at TSM a few months ago and since it falls under this topic I'll do so again. Sullivan's (and Hogan's I guess) booking during later 94/early 95 WCW wasn't *that* bad. Him and Hogan booked rather logically in terms of one feud leading to another and everyone playing their roles to match the storyline. It's just that the wrestlers in the roles were wrong for the parts and went against the type of wrestling WCW fans lived by

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsfVGs6zGbE# this made me laugh. Especially the beginning

Hogan/Bossman was the scheduled dark match main event. The crowd thought the jobber replaced Hogan

Dave at a Marathon WWF taping in the 80s? That writes itself Told this story several times but I knew a kid in elementary school whose father did jobs for the WWF at the Poughkeepsie tapings in the early 80s and he wasn't even a trained worker, just a big guy with a grizzled look. The WWF was very lax in hiring competent jobbers and it caught up with them a few times. Incidentally which wrestlers turned on the show? Edit: according to Graham's site it was Hercules and Demolition (Maybe Harley Race as he cut an anti-Heenan promo to the crowd). That's actually semi historical taping

wasn't that a Jerry McDevitt talking point for awhile?

I would expect that Bryan or whoever inherits the WON from Dave would probably put him in the HOF at the first opportunity. As much as we give him shit (deservedly more often than not), I don't think there are too many people ever who actually cared about wrestling more than Dave. His writing during the steroid trials probably would have won him awards if it was written for a mainstream newspaper, and that's why it was really sad when you could see there was a point when it was obvious things were never going to change and Dave was just like "fuck it". You could chalk it up to youthful Dave thinking he could play some part in changing the world, but there was something heartbreaking over seeing the exact time someone's spirit was broken being commemorated in print. sek, do you mean Dave was specifically heartbroken over the verdict in the trial or just a general "The business will never change" way?

does anyone else find Tommy Dreamer nauseating to listen to? I never was a fan but he's really moving into that "despise" category. UGH

I came on a little later but was DVDVR always this positive towards the WWE? that's one of the reasons I enjoy that board