Matt D

For me, the most important number for Bockwinkel is that 130. I'm not entirely sure there were 130 wrestling fans in the world that would have voted for him in a list like this five years ago, especially if we were going off of footage. I'm very happy with his placement. I thought he could have fallen at any point in the last day and a half, certainly. As for 70s Bock, the answer is "not much." A lot of what we have is clipped. You can get a sense of him, one that mostly syncs up with the very complete later picture, but it's just a sense. Just off the top of my head, there are some Bock/Stevens vs Crusher/Bruiser matches, some of a Verne match, some of a Ladd match, some of an Andre match, a lot of the match that made the High Flyers. As you get towards the end of the decade, you start to get Japanese footage, like Jumbo/Baba vs Nick/Lanza, and a couple of Jumbo matches. There is some IWE stuff from the end of the decade that I'm really looking forward to see. And you get spatterings of Memphis. Kevin could speak more at exactly what's out there. Much of my case for Bock is that we have every bit of necessary footage in the 80s, in so many different situations where he had to be great to achieve different ends in different ways, that it's more than enough. Enough points to create a very detailed map.

Vader maybe?

Lee Casebolt is a scholar and gentleman. More later.

(Eddy is still in play)

That's a lot of #1 stumping for Bret.

He had a great brawl with Larry Z once. That's because Larry Z is a top 110 wrestler of all time. I have a list to prove it!

I have to watch that Strongbow vs Fuji match or whatever. I promised at least one Titan. I really kind of like the 70s Fuji vs Morales match though, so how bad could it be?

Should have we named the podcast Atom Splitters or Drink Spitters?

I'm very happy about Arn's placement. It was about ballots but also, to some degree, about average. I think he's someone that almost everyone saw as great and while he does have great matches, and even a few great singles ones, the broad weight of his case is on a different sort of consistency, one that is special and unique. People are free to disagree, but I think he represents a sort of specialness that expresses itself in every moment, tiny stars lighting up the night sky and adding a color and beauty all their own instead of giant suns turning night into day. Greatness comes in many forms and he's the absolute pinnacle of a certain sort of it. It's nice to see how much people value what he represents.

Whereas someone like Mick Foley just creeps me the fuck out. IDK I can't really vote for a guy taking all these stupid bumps when he's doing pathetic company shilling rants and is working the creepiest white male feminist gimmick ever. I mean I'd totally do it if I truly cared about his work but. Nah. edit: should note triple h being a 4/10 wrestler wouldn't classify under the dumb shit said by bret hart, seem about right really, might be slightly overrating him That 4/10 thing was referring to one of his matches, not him as a wrestler per say. Per se, lad, per se. I feel like that would have been an appropriate place for a Jim Barnett impression.

If nothing else, the fact that we had such a broad sourcing means that you'll at least be able to post it elsewhere without it being completely impenetrable. It goes against so many traditional schools of thought that it can't make anyone happy, in the best way.

Bock still lives.

Go with Haku instead: Casas is so awesome in that match.

I said exceptionally solid. I worded that more carefully than I did my defense of Bret. Man, I hoped Casas would make it to the top 20 but I'm glad that lots of people discovered him and enjoyed him so thoroughly. I just hope Bock doesn't drop next.

grggghhhghhhhhhh.

I'm not 100% sure I've heard an exceptionally solid defense of Bret yet, and that's including my own.

MAYBE, must maybe, my system has a few flaws too.

On mine at least, there's a link at the bottom left of the screen right above "time now" that says "Use Mobile Version"

That Blackjack Windham picture is awesome.

Will be very cool to see what the two of them could put together in 82.

I've liked all the Akiyama I've watched. I just thought that particular argument wasn't super strong. Other arguments are stronger.

If Akiyama was in those tags instead of Taue, would you think he was the weakest worker? (I know some people wouldn't, but you kind of get the point for why that argument is a little silly, right?)

I think Casas and Santo are wildly different wrestlers even though, at one point, they may have been very similar foils.

Bock and Casas survive another day.

As a kid I was so frustrated I got onto the game late and could only get the pink plastic shades things and not the silver ones.