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Matt D

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  1. I feel like 2000 is the moment since it's the first time a Heel came out of wrestlemania on top and no one was expecting it.
  2. Having read those issues recently, some of that to me seems that he was just busy with his life and some of it was obvious frustration over what he felt to be the WWF's manipulation of the media and its sort of self-actualizing myth. If you read the late 84 stuff, he was predicting that the WWF surge was going to ultimately be a failure, that the steam was running out and that they were getting over extended, that the power of Hulkamania had a relatively short shelf-life. And then they turn the corner into 85 and right into Rock'n'Wrestling, with a whole new breed of fan entering into things that couldn't have been more divergent in tastes and desires than Dave and his reader-base. Moreover, this new breed of fan was going to not only allow WWF to thrive by presenting a product diametrically opposed to what he liked, but it was also going to define wrestling in the rest of the country. From the feel that I get from the text, I think it was that frustration that really pushed him over the edge. For a little bit it looked to him (maybe overly optimistic) as if the WWF style was just a little surge that appealed to certain traditional elements of the fanbase for a little bit, but that it would cycle back around to what he he felt was proper. But then as things progressed, it became so successful that it changed the fanbase itself and in doing so, ensured its own survival for YEARS. In 85 it became strictly evident that McMahon's take on wrestling was not going away anytime soon.
  3. I love Windham in 93 because he had this real presence as champion but his TV matches once he gets the belt (outside of this one, if I remember correctly) start to fall into a real formula. Which isn't bad but it does make them a little more slight than they could be. I don't think it's my favorite Face Regal match in 93 though. That would be vs Barbarian from the TV title tournament, which is more of a novelty, I suppose, but it's a lot of fun.
  4. The twitter drop should totally be a stomp.
  5. Apparently not:http://board.deathvalleydriver.com/index.php?showtopic=54186 Anti-japan bias. If Power Hall isn't the greatest wrestling theme ever, it sure is very close to it. I think it was more Pro-Queen bias, but whatever.
  6. I have no idea how I, of all people, hadn't realized there had been Savage/Smash/Crush vs Warrior/LOD matches.
  7. One element to dave's coverage leading up to Wrestlemania is that WWF and Vince had really created a media understanding of how big wrestling was... basically they had created a flim-flam style and then that in itself brought the substance. He changed and created his own reality through the media. He convinced the media that there was buzz and in doing so he actually created the buzz in the first place.
  8. I suspect we can go back through the WON's and find that Slaughter-Hogan at Mania '91 was a very early idea, frankly the whole point of Slaughter's heel gimmick. Remember the original building the event was going to be in. Who knows what goes on inside the head of Vince and Hogan, it's likely that Hogan dropped the title to Warrior knowning he was getting it back the following year from "someone". Warrior not doing well was known pretty early. Savage did well in his run, but they still took it off to give it back to Hogan. John What Slaughter claims is that he wasn't supposed to get the Title. It would still be Hogan vs Slaughter with Sarge as the heel (which he was disappointed about) but not for the title. That might have just been ego on his point in that he claims that he didn't need the title in 84 and he didn't need it for this feud either, but the claim is that it wasn't until Macho's hand was injured that he started to get cycled into house show matches with Warrior and the Rumble match crystallized.
  9. I started to look at the late 90-early 91 Observers to check but I decided to stop and do some actual work after the first sighting of "Bore-us Zhukov" for some reason.
  10. I've heard Slaughter say that if Savage hadn't had his Hand injury, they would have likely kept the belt on Warrior and Savage/Warrior would have been at the Rumble. I'm not sure how that skews WM VII plans as Hogan/Slaughter was apparently already set, but was to be non-title.
  11. Scotty was basically made for 1993 Memphis. Scotty makes Christopher 20x more entertaining just by giving him someone to play off of.
  12. Sherri has the best line for the entire year in Memphis I think.
  13. I just wish that RE would stop no selling everyone else's points. Talk about living the dream.
  14. This match is good, but the CC match from Worldwide in a few months is even better.
  15. But what would President Dusty think?
  16. I feel like they were still worried about Hall returning to WWF and saying a lot of shooty things about them on some level. It's like paying farmers not to grow crops. They were paying him but for years they barely used him after a certain point.
  17. The big problem I have with this mindset is that us 2011 nitpicky bastards have a lot of matches from the same era that are still (or even "newly") considered great both relative to the Sayama vs DK ones and relative to matches of today. I feel like that aspect is being undervalued here. Everything is being held to the same standard and a lot of things DO hold up.
  18. All of this stuff is well and good and important in understanding the context of the match, but when I'm watching something in 2011, what matters to me is how I feel about it in 2011. I could see how there could be an issue if there wasn''t a litany of 80s matches that I absolutely love when watching them today. But there are. Yes, sure the wrestlers weren't intending the matches to be watched on a computer 25 years later on a little portable HAL. I get that. Who the hell cares? It's an exercise in pointless delusion to try to pretend it's 1985 again when watching something. Honestly, considering that using the same criteria a lot of people around here judge a lot of 80s matches above the matches of today (perhaps just not some of the ones that people went crazy for at the time), I'm not even sure why this is an argument. Actually, considering the initial issue was "all 80s matches are terrible," then yeah, I get it there, but with this board?
  19. I love that video package. It's perfect.
  20. The Fink promo is amazing and LONG. And then Bruno was so super over. It's just a surreal segment all around.
  21. That entire USWA ep is great. Doink came out at least 3 times including the just astonishing squash tag match with Christopher (Did that make the comp? I'm just talking from seeing this stuff on justin.tv a few months ago). I really felt like Borne felt like he could cut loose down there in a way he couldn't up North.
  22. The conspiracy theorist in me points to Hunter and Steph.
  23. My Arn fantasy booking is always in early 90 used (w/Heenan) instead of Hennig vs Hogan, with a storyline based over limbwork destroying the ability for Hogan to hit the legdrop. Obviously he would have resigned in this case.
  24. Of course. I doubt Woman will ever go in although she would deserve it on her career only, but that would open a can of worms the WWE won't touch with a ten foot pole. Chyna will never go in for obvious reasons although she was a hot act for a while. Sable, well, unless they work something out with brock at some point, I doubt it, but she could eventually. Liz and Luna, I doubt they ever will. Madusa has no shot. Trish really was more important than Sunny to the WWE I think. But hey, like Loss said, it's all about marketing. I wonder who can induct Sunny though... I'm guessing Cornette is out of the picture? I really want Ron Simmons to do it for some reason but I think either a Diva (Trish/Kelly Kelly/Eve) or Tom Pritchard would be the way they go with it.
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