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Melina pointing out that Stacey has a "strong understanding of ring psychology" is my favorite bit of wrestling social media this year.

It's from PWUSA TV. There's a version on dotdotkins channel with both pre and post match promos too. Looks like what we have here is a slight upgrade of VQ as you'd expect. It does have an all time moonsault "knees-up" sell that feels like it's in slow motion.

Taking full credit for this because when cancelling my sub last week, I noted that I was cancelling because I thought we'd be getting more arena footage hidden gems. You're welcome. (I'm only half kidding). So if I'm not mistaken this is from the Thanksgiving Tag Team Tournament ($50k) at the Omni in 83. Teams: Butch Reed & Pez Whatley Randy Savage & Magnum T.A. Jim Neidhart & King Kong Bundy Tommy Rogers & Joe Lightfoot Randy Rose & Jimmy Randolph the Bruise Brothers (Troy Graham and Porkchop Cash, managed by Jimmy Hart) the Russians (Nikolai Volkoff and Korstia Korchenko) Ron Garvin & Jim Duggan Bob Brown & Chick Donovan the Mad Mongolians (Newt Tattrie & Gene Lewis). Main event: Tommy Rich & Buzz Sawyer defeated the Road Warriors (there was also Debbie Combs vs Donna Day, Dibiase vs Brett Sawyer, and Jake vs Wrestling II) I'm not sure Savage/Magnum vs Mad Mongolians would be the match I would pick from that show (it'd either be Reed/Whatley vs Savage/TA or Bruise Brothers vs Garvin/Duggan or Savage/TA) but whatever.

We are here for you, Beast.

I don't at all disagree with your last point.

Los Ingobernables exist, in good part, to the Arena México crowd rejecting all the tecnicos after Mistico left.

Is NXT drawing more than the WWF did in 95?

I'd probably be as angry at my supervisor for putting me in that situation?

I'm at the supermarket. You guys are on your own.

Now they're just screwing with us.

That's actually what Loss and I came up with too. It seemed so outlandish that I bumped this.

If it helps, you're always going to be close to baba to me, big guy.

I'm bumping this to pose the question again: what is the best heel WWF Martel match? The ones that might come to mind first are underwhelming, sometimes damningly so (like the 20 minute broadway vs Bret and the Michaels match). He had a long run with Santana but it feels like a lot of those didn't actually make tape just because they were on the wrong loop at the wrong time. Any thoughts?

That'd send me to therapy.

I feel bad doing this as someone (especially someone who generally has a lot of valuable things to say about wrestling) wants to jump on, but I'm pretty sure we've run our course with this iteration of the experiment. We made it six months and a lot of reviews, but attrition is a powerful force. If you guys want to keep throwing matches at each other in this thread, great. If someone else wants to randomly generate the draws for the people that are left and have been active, that's great too. Otherwise, my plans are to let this sit for a while and to come back after Thanksgiving with Secret Santo II on the idea that we get a couple of months out of a refreshed community over the holidays. I'll still hit my last two matches and write them up. It might just be another week or so. Thanks for everyone who participated. I think we all had a lot of fun with this.

I don't think that's true at all. I haven't seen the Harper match from last night yet, just the aftermath, but he's had a slew of fun TV matches so far. Styles, Rusev, the Gauntlet (Big E/Samoa Joe), Benjamin. If you look at the WWE over the last ten years or so, the TV matches have always been the real strength. You have ECW and/or a bunch of other C-show stuff in 2008-2009, the shield six-mans in 2013, maybe Cena's open challenges depending on how you feel about those. How many feuds does WWE actually nail?

Crowd was hugely into it. It's fine for a few week nostalgia act. They'll have a few fun skits, a match at the PPV, and then Jacobs will go back to campaigning and Bryan will move on to the next thing.

DEAN having LA Park at #4 on his GWE list feels justified now.

I haven't seen any turtles this year so I'll go for that, thanks! Been having some technical difficulties but for you I've got some easy, kind of well-known ones that I'd be curious on your thoughts on. You can pick though both are kind of short.

Tonight was an awesome spectacle and I swear I thought the place was going to riot when they were trying to get Rush out.

I'd love to be in the room when Flair was ordering specific colors of tights. Why that shade of blue or green?

I enjoyed the second episode a lot. I'd explain it like this: you don't always get what I think the absolute truth is, but you always get the truth Jerry believes, and because he's so interesting a guy, it's a truth worth hearing. Like, I wouldn't have the heart to tell him that no, Waltman and Marty didn't have a long reign.

Often time the natural break that comes with both falls and longer periods between momentum shifts make them feel a lot shorter than they actually are relative to Japanese matches of similar length. There are very few great lightning matches. (Indy matches can run closer to ~15 sometimes and some are great but you're not getting the real experience). There's like... this and that's it?

Alright, I'm still going to be behind for a few more days. Life's been busy. But I will watch the Santo retirement match and give it a worthy response! smartmark is off. I have some suspicions about where we're going with this (in that the experiment might have been great and gotten us a couple hundred reviews, but it might be petering off for a few months), but I'm happy to see where this week takes us. Randomizer says: jetlag dawho5 Nintendo Logic Grimmas Matt D Headcheese fxnj SirEdger Victator JoeG Headcheese, I will look forward to bitching about your match when you give it to me and I'll try to find you something suitable as well.