kjh Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 Chael luv is already being kicked off again in anticipation of his return to the cage even prior to his date in court: UFC's Chael Sonnen and Michael Bisping - Let Them Fight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjh Posted April 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 Sonnen is still in hot water with Keith Kizer and the Nevada State Athletic Commission, as his story continues to mutate: Will Keith Kizer let UFC's Chael Sonnen coach the next season of TUF? Chael Sonnen's Lack of Humility Costs Him a Chance to Coach TUF 14? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjh Posted April 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 Chael Sonnen's UFC licensing issues won't be over next week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 It's over, Johnny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JazeUSA Posted May 28, 2011 Report Share Posted May 28, 2011 it doesnt look very good for this guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjh Posted October 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 UFC 136 Results: Chael Sonnen And The Best Interview In UFC History Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death From Above Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 The best promo guy in the company wins a decision. What a surprise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 The best promo guy in the company wins a decision. What a surprise. He's not the best promo guy in the company by a longshot and he should've been DQed for the multiple different fouls he tried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 Meltz's obsession with Chael is rising up the creepy scale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 Meltz's obsession with Chael is rising up the creepy scale.You mean this? http://www.f4wonline.com/more/more-top-sto...s-interview-was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 Sorry I couldn't get too excited about him rushing through a Superstar Graham promo from the 70's because I was still getting douche chills from the one before the fight where he though looking directly in the camera was a cool spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricR Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 Oh man, that pre fight promo was one of the more embarrassing "promos" I have ever seen. Not only was he desperately trying to keep in his promo voice, but that turn to the camera at the end had me literally spitting out my coffee and laughing. We were howling at how awful that was. That turn to the camera was like the shittiest David Caruso pre-credits CSI Miami take ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 Oh man, that pre fight promo was one of the more embarrassing "promos" I have ever seen. Not only was he desperately trying to keep in his promo voice, but that turn to the camera at the end had me literally spitting out my coffee and laughing. We were howling at how awful that was. That turn to the camera was like the shittiest David Caruso pre-credits CSI Miami take ever."I'm like a pack of cigarettes. [turns] I may be hazardous for your health!" YEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Evans Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 That promo reminded me of this: So who is the best promo guy in the company? Dana? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjh Posted January 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 "Chael's copy of the promo was better than the original" - Dave Meltzer on Wrestling Observer Radio. I suppose originality is overrated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 But he was using promo styles from THE GRAPPLER in Mid South and Portland from the early eighties for christs sake. I mean that is at least 200,000 buys at least from the non UFC fans watching FOX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 Yeah... Dave sounds like an 1995 ECW Fan sporting wood after a match in the Bingo Hall that they thought was ***** that Dave would in turn think wasn't as good as Tijuana Prelims. We've come full circle(jerk). John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 I'll be damned. He really does have a legit need for TRT that wasn't caused by steroid abuse. That was definitely a surprise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 Well, at least according to the NSAC. The rest of us can believe that Chael has low testosterone due to years of juicing. This does really open it up for juicers to study how to get a "conditional therapeutic use exemption" and how to properly cycle so they're down below the 6:1 come the final clearance test. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 John, it's not that the NSAC said so. His FSH levels being normal means it's secondary hypogonadism (as in testosterone levels are low secondary to a problem that's not in the testes), which cannot be caused by steroid abuse. Steroid abuse causes primary hypgonadism, which is where the testes fail and FSH levels are high because the pituitary is trying to tell them to produce more testosterone. It's surprising but there's no other way to interpret the test results, which makes his doctor look even worse because he originally misdiagnosed Chael as having primary hypgonadism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjh Posted May 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 There's still something strange going on when he doesn't stick to the recommended treatment schedule. Like Chris Benoit, just because he has a legitimate need, that doesn't mean he hasn't superdosed to performance enhance in the past. It doesn't help that the NSAC hasn't got an endocrinologist on board yet to review such cases. However, given his career trajectory, I can believe he was clean before 2008, as he only became a UFC championship level fighter after that date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted May 22, 2012 Report Share Posted May 22, 2012 Actually I might be wrong about that. There are some places where steroid abuse is exclusively linked with primary but Bryan's telling me it can cause secondary as well and googling around it looks like that's the case. I can't remember when I was first told this but believe Keith Kizer is under a similar impression. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw Posted May 22, 2012 Report Share Posted May 22, 2012 I'm not buying that his low test isn't due to massive juice use for years. Also disagree with Keith on lateness to juicing. Mark McGwire did juice before getting insanely thick in 1995. He almost certainly increased his levels of use over the years: * possible some minor useage at USC * almost certainly some increased use early in the Bash Brothers era * increased use again after the 1991 horrible off season followed by rapid improvement in 1992 * massive increases after the 1993-94 injury season He just took it to an insane level in 1995-98, but it doesn't mean he wasn't using before... for probably close to a decade. In turn, it's a work that Barry Bonds suddenly started juicing in the year he set the dinger record. He almost certainly was using earlier in the 90s. He just cranked it up to insane levels after the injury season, then went higher and higher. Chael? College wrestling All American at Oregon in 1998. College athletes at a major university.... juice? I actually wouldn't be surprised if he was juicing in high school. I went to high school with kids who juiced, and that was 1984... and guys who juiced just to make the team, not even to get a scholorship. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjh Posted May 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2012 I agree that's the most likely scenario, John, that Chael ramped up his juicing to insane levels to become a title contender. Just that, it's not completely implausible that he was clean before 2008, but the fact he has hypogonadism suggests otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasch Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 I never thought I'd live to see a world where Paul E. wouldn't be the gold standard by which all other carnies are judged. But when a guy who has most likely been jucing for most of his adult life can turn a TRT exemption hearing into an advisory role on the board that was deciding the exemption, I have to say that The Carny Throne is now sitting on the head of Chael P. Sonnen. What a performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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