kingliam Posted June 12, 2013 Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 Following on from my first posts, I should acknowledge that my recent time spent listening to Where The Big Boys Play and the P2B podcasts are what brought me here. This is a two-fold post. Jushin Liger will be wrestling for Revolution Pro in London on Saturday, and I have got a ticket to go (as well as head off to the meet and greet beforehand). I was a massive Liger fan when younger, and couldn't really pass up the opportunity to meet the guy. He is fighting Prince Devitt, so should be a half decent match as well. Is anyone on the board coming? Secondly, as I have not really kept up with NJPW like I used to - what should I expect from a modern-day Liger match? Can the guy still go in singles? Are there any recent matches that people would recommend checking out that are worthwhile? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ditch Posted June 12, 2013 Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 There aren't many recent Liger highlights. He's slowed down and doesn't book himself in the wars he used to. I'd expect a decent but not overwhelming 10-15 minute match with a few of both guys' trademarks thrown in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingliam Posted June 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 To be honest, that is all I'd expect. In some ways, that is all I'd want as well - seeing the guy is good enough for me. Funnily enough, I was listening to a Where The Big Boys Play podcast this morning where Noam Dar was mentioned as a potential star in the making. He is also on the card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happ Hazzard Posted June 12, 2013 Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 I wish the card was on iPPV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingliam Posted June 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 Whilst I've posted this, any opinions on: El Ligero Hiromu Takahashi Sha Samuels Project Ego Swords of Essex would be much appreciated. I'm sure some are easier than others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted June 12, 2013 Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 Hey kingliam, where about's is this happening? If it's not sold out I might head down. Interested to see Noam Dar again and wouldn't mind seeing Liger in the flesh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingliam Posted June 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 It is in Bethnal Green in London. Tickets are still available as far as I am aware. http://www.revolutionprowrestling.com/london/home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Schneider Posted June 12, 2013 Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 I saw liger live a couple of years ago against homicide. He worked really hard and was a treat to see live. I am sure you will dig it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted June 12, 2013 Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 Think I'm going go, have to drive to London that night anyway. Got any idea when it starts? Or of the full card? Doesn't seem to be up on their site. El Ligero vs. Haskins was good in Stevenage and it seems like they are having a rematch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingliam Posted June 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 Think I'm going go, have to drive to London that night anyway. Got any idea when it starts? Or of the full card? Doesn't seem to be up on their site. El Ligero vs. Haskins was good in Stevenage and it seems like they are having a rematch. 7.30 bell time apparently. The card that I am aware of: Liger vs Devitt Colt Cabana vs Sha Samuels Noam Dar vs Hiromu Takashi El Ligero vs Mark (?) Haskins Project Ego vs Swords of Essex That was all I am aware of. Mark Rocco and Davey Boy Smith Jr. will also be there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted June 12, 2013 Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 El Ligero - Works a sort of flier gimmick. Hit or miss. At times he looks really sharp and he has a distinct (but indy) look. Sha Samuels - Decent, I've seen him carried to solid matches by better wrestlers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted June 12, 2013 Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 Alright booked my ticket. I'll be the guy looking vaguely out of place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ditch Posted June 12, 2013 Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 The other New Japan guy is (currently) a forgettable young lion, but he should have the basics down since he's an NJ trainee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingliam Posted June 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 As it stands, I'm going on my own - however, someone from Extreme Warfare Battleground (one of the other forums I go to) will be about. Would be cool to try and grab a beer and chat. Like the podcast, so anyone who is able to have a fairly in depth wrestling chat with is fine by me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovert Posted June 12, 2013 Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 I'd sell an internal organ to see Prince Devitt fresh off sweeping the Best of the Super Juniors and in his new character live. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted June 12, 2013 Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 As it stands, I'm going on my own - however, someone from Extreme Warfare Battleground (one of the other forums I go to) will be about. Would be cool to try and grab a beer and chat. Like the podcast, so anyone who is able to have a fairly in depth wrestling chat with is fine by me. Alright, I'll shoot you a PM on the day. I'm in no rush to get back after the show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 This was a fun show and thanks again to Liam for the heads up and company. York Hall is a great venue and the crowd were really good. I do get the feeling that "something is happening" in the British scene at the moment, but I say that with no real basis for comparison. There are some good workers plying their trade on this circuit though. Really surprisingly high production values too. Thought the matches were a mixed bag. This was a lot more stereotypically Indy style than the Stevenage show I saw a couple of months back. I thought Haskins was good again. He was one of the few guys who didn't look like he was thinking about his next spot for the whole match. And one of the few people to take things to the mat for any amount of time. Project Ego vs Swords of Essex had some very amusing comedy spots from Project Ego, but one of the Swords of Essex guys is just painfully small and they embody for me the worst of the excesses of the spotty style that I'd describe as "stereotypically Indy". They did some ridiculously convoluted spots and few of them came off. I was genuinely shocked to hear a section of the crowd bust out "this is awesome" chants. I wanted to call back "no it isn'it!", but have never been one for that sort of thing. One of the things I noticed that we talked about during this card was how no one ever follows up on a high spot with basic stomps, elbow drops, knee drops or any of your ABC ground game. You'll get SUPLEX VARIATION, cover, slow getting back to feet, maybe turn to crowd at this point, the opponent gets back to their knees in which case either: 1. Flashy kick of some sort 2. SUPLEX VARATION, cover, rinse repeat While I am a big fan suplexes and throws, I do wonder why a lot of these guys don't seem to have basic elbow drops in their arsenal. Is it really easier to do a drop kick than to stomp? I don't get that development. It's a small niggle but one that highlights how illogical this style can be. The Colt Cabana match was neither here nor there. And the Heavyweight title was clearly taking a backseat to the Cruiserweight title at this event. Highlight of the night was seeing Devitt perform a double-foot stomp from the top rope onto a prone Liger. That is a BRUTAL move. He went over clean too. Mark Rocco cut a nice little promo about "showing them Americans what wrestling is all about and how it's done". He was one safe ground to get good pops with that sort of thing. ------ It sounds like I'm down on the show, but there was some really good stuff in there and for £15 I can't complain for a night of solid action. I am thinking about going back in October because Bret is coming to down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ButchReedMark Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 I do get the feeling that "something is happening" in the British scene at the moment, but I say that with no real basis for comparison. Preston City Wrestling is currently the "hot thing" in Britwres. They get about 800 for shows, do occasional weekenders with imports as well. Chris Masters does them a lot import wise, as does Goldust, and The Steiners are their tag team champions. Loads of British talent as well. Noam Dar's one of their top guys. Personally I do a fair bit of work with Welsh Wrestling, and we also put on solid shows to a few hundred around the principality. No imports, but talents like James Mason who works most shows, Matt Vaughan, and Wild Boar Hitchman. I think Mark Haskins is doing a bit now as well. It's more of an All-Star style promotion, that's what I like from my wrestling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingliam Posted June 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 Some photos from the Meet and Greet from before the show. As was already mentioned, I felt it was good value for the £15. Some of the matches were a little ropey, but generally got the crowd involved. Will type up more thoughts about it when I have the time, but yeah, there was very little ground offense - I mean, there were submissions, but no stomps, elbow drops - one knee drop, which was noticeable enough for us to both comment on it. I kept worrying the ring was going to break, especially when Dave Mastiff was in the ring with Rampage. Those guys were both solid units, and when Mastiff hit the turnbuckle hard, the ring moved a good inch or two. Main event was solid if unspectacular - however, that was all it needed to be. Seeing Liger live was awesome, and it reminded me just how charismatic he can be as well. He worked the crowd like the seasoned pro he is, and was a pleasure to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ButchReedMark Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 Doug Williams looks in wonderful shape. I mean there's no reason why he shouldn't, but he looks tremendous there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajsmith_7 Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 Great pics man, you've got a picture with Liger, how fucking cool is that!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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