Loss Posted August 15, 2014 Report Share Posted August 15, 2014 Talk about it here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted October 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2014 Last few minutes. I'm there live somewhere. Billy Gunn is the referee. No heat for this at all. Ken's sister Ryan ends up helping Val after Ken audibly tells her to do so in a funny flub. Billy Gunn does a fast count and Val wins the IC title. Gunn and Shamrock brawl, then Gunn returns to the ring to attack Val too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Evans Posted December 31, 2014 Report Share Posted December 31, 2014 Wasn't Ryan Shamrock actually Ken's GF at the time? Why is Billy Gunn and his tiny pants the ref in this? As Loss said, no heat for this whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soup23 Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 "Slap Me". Never knew you went to this show Loss as between this and WM 17, you have some great attitude era highlights. This was awful for the heat and Val continues to be the person from this era that hasn't held up at all for me from a working or gimmick standpoint. He wins the IC title here and I yawn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenjo Posted July 25, 2015 Report Share Posted July 25, 2015 Half a year ago Shamrock had been super over. Now the fans don't care about him. Injecting Mr Ass into the feud for whatever reason wasn't helping things either. I'll just quickly outline some of the major problems to explain why it's so dead out there: 1) Shamrock was a good face but a crap heel. 2) The face in the feud was a scumbag porn star who slept around with other wrestlers family members. 3) Nobody ever gave a shit about Billy as a singles competitor. 4) Nobody believes that Ryan is Ken's sister. Is Ryan even a unisex name? She'd only been around 10 minutes so had no established relationship with Ken. 5) Like I mentioned earlier, WTF is Ass even doing here in the first place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteF3 Posted March 6, 2017 Report Share Posted March 6, 2017 Should I even bother asking why Gunn was the guest ref for this? Did Shawn Michaels make that decision or did Vince deliberately allow his own Corporate champion to be at a disadvantage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G. Badger Posted May 15, 2017 Report Share Posted May 15, 2017 This was the first ppv I ever got. Going on memory from re-watching my vhs copy: this was pure soap opera for men type match up. Val Venis was a comedy act as was most of the roster. Shamrock was probably one of the few along with Steve Blackman who didn't have some kinda funny gimmick or catch phrase at the time. So, putting him as the straight man in the comedy routine was gold. Even more so since he was too stiff an actor to ever pull it off:D This is capped off by the timeless camera at the wrong place wrong time "Slap me" LOL The match is forgettable but this incident is timeless unintended comedy in the vein of Big Poppa Pump Steiner/what the hell is going on!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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