KrisZ Posted July 4, 2016 Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 Kris & David are joined by Jeff Hawkins (Shake Them Ropes) to discuss the week that was June 28-July 4, 1988. We discuss Bam Bam Bigelow leaving the WWF, Owen Hart entering the WWF, the saga of Mitch Snow, the incestual relationship between Continental, USA, Memphis, & World Class in this time period, and Dusty Rhodes pimping some Mello Yello. A fun show so check it out!!!! 0:00:00 WWF 0:45:53 Int’l: AJPW, NJPW, UWF, Mexico, & Stampede 1:16:28 Eastern USA: CWF, USA, & Memphis, 1:48:56 Western USA (Windy City, WCCW, & Portland) & Potpourri 2:28:55 JCP The PWO-PTBN Podcast Network features great shows you can find right here at Place to Be Nation. By subscribing on iTunes or SoundCloud, you’ll have access to new episodes, bonus content, as well as a complete archive of all shows on the Network! For more on the great family of podcasts at Place to Be Nation, click here. http://placetobenation.com/between-the-sheets-50-june-28-july-4-1988/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianB Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 Just starting the show, is Jeff from the same area as Vince Gilligan? His voice and accent sound remarkably similar. No surprise Bret and Bad News went to a draw...how many times did Bad News job to anybody? Dude seemed like a Piper level douche in that regard, except less talented (maybe some of his stuff just doesn't date well...but I hate seeing this guy when re-watching this period, outside of the craziness of SNME when he faced Hogan). I guess like Piper it kind of worked out for him, since didn't he work programs with Savage later in 88? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 Hm, Vince Gilligan is from Richmond, Virginia. Didn't know that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkins Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 I get the Vince Gilligan more than you'd think, it's a shame I can't monetize it. I couldn't listen to the podcasts with him on it because it would freak me out. He's from Richmond, I'm from Newport News. No idea if it's a regional thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkdoc Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 BrianB, i think that's more an 80s promoter thing than a Bad News thing. Duggan never seemed to job clean either, at least on TV. that was the conventional wisdom at the time - "name" wrestlers of any sort shouldn't do jobs except on very special occasions. the top Japanese promotions worked the same way during the 80s, and it took the success of shootstyle to drag NJPW & AJPW kicking & screaming into booking clean finishes for big matches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
...TG Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 Jeff, great first appearance. Hopefully you can come back for a longer episode next time. And Bix, rechargeable batteries are a good thing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSR Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 Jeff, great first appearance. Hopefully you can come back for a longer episode next time. Agreed. I don't know if Jeff had done plenty of preparation for this by watching stuff from the timeframe recently or what, but he had a great memory for things, was extremely knowledgeable on all areas and really added to the discussion. After Chikarason the other week where, despite his admitted blind spots on certain areas, it was his enthusiasm for the product (and show!) that made it such a fun listen, it's good to see the show back on form when it comes to the guests after the poor Brandon episode and the truly awful one with Les. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianB Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 I get the Vince Gilligan more than you'd think, it's a shame I can't monetize it. I couldn't listen to the podcasts with him on it because it would freak me out. He's from Richmond, I'm from Newport News. No idea if it's a regional thing Great work on the show this week. BrianB, i think that's more an 80s promoter thing than a Bad News thing. Duggan never seemed to job clean either, at least on TV. that was the conventional wisdom at the time - "name" wrestlers of any sort shouldn't do jobs except on very special occasions. the top Japanese promotions worked the same way during the 80s, and it took the success of shootstyle to drag NJPW & AJPW kicking & screaming into booking clean finishes for big matches. There's definitely some old school, regional territory thinking, especially about TV jobs, at play. But Bad News still strikes me as one of the worst guys about this, at least for the WWF, because, unlike Duggan, he was a heel. And looking back through what's up on profigthdb isn't doing much to alter that impression. I might just be holding it more against him because his matches were usually not entertaining or good, even if he was a legit asskicker in real life. He lost much more it Japan it seems. I think his only clean pinfall loss on TV in the US was losing to Hogan--which everyone did, except for Piper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 New Nightmare is okay though you aren't missing much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert S Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 Who was that comment about having to be a pharmacist when trying to smuggle drugs into Japan about? The only pharmacist in pro wrestling I can think about is Joe Malenko. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted July 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 Dr. Death Steve Williams had so much drugs in his bag that it could be considered a pharmacy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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