Do you prefer defined segmentation?

[concrete1992]

When watching wrestling do you prefer to watch wrestling with defined segments, such as falls or rounds, or would you prefer a more consistent flow? Matt D's post in his NOAH Microscope made me think about it.

People say that young people want all that action because they can't pay attention but I almost feel the complete opposite. I need consistent stimulation when the wrestling is happening but not OVERstimulation. Falls or rounds can break up that action which gives me time to digest and regain focus. You get that moment to pull together threads of the story. While it isn't exciting when a 2/3 falls match starts with two quick falls I do end up enjoying that more than traditional feeling out section which just breaks into the "body" of the bout. Maybe I'm an odd duck.

 

 

Might not be enough for a thread but I'm just gonna start it up and see where it goes. Heck, there might be a thread already that I have missed.

[JerryvonKramer]

The key reason why I can't get into Lucha is the 2/3 falls structure in shorter matches where fall one is coming after 4 minutes and fall two after 10 usually with a longer third fall. The falls are almost always sudden and abrupt, and to me it disrupts the flow and feels disjointed.

 

I like 20-30 minute one-fall main event matches in which the first act is more than table setting. My chief problem with 90s NJPW is the table setting which seems rout and obligatory.

 

Close to my ideal would be stuff like Flair/Steamboat Chi-town, or Rude vs. Steamboat Superbrawl II, where the opening ten minutes feel as important as the finishing stretch. I don't mind a truncated shine sequence and an elongated heat sequence, and generally prefer that to the other way around (see AWA).

[Loss]

Sometimes there's not even a lull. In the Bret Hart era of WWE, it's been pointed out that matches were typically constructed in five minute acts. It's not that they stopped, it's just that that's how momentum shifts occurred. Once you see it, you can't unsee it. As for the question, I neither prefer it nor oppose it. It all comes down to execution.

[concrete1992]

Sometimes there's not even a lull. In the Bret Hart era of WWE, it's been pointed out that matches were typically constructed in five minute acts. It's not that they stopped, it's just that that's how momentum shifts occurred. Once you see it, you can't unsee it. As for the question, I neither prefer it nor oppose it. It all comes down to execution.

I feel most people would come down to this. Sort of the "Good wrestling is good wrestling" approach.

[JerryvonKramer]

 

Sometimes there's not even a lull. In the Bret Hart era of WWE, it's been pointed out that matches were typically constructed in five minute acts. It's not that they stopped, it's just that that's how momentum shifts occurred. Once you see it, you can't unsee it. As for the question, I neither prefer it nor oppose it. It all comes down to execution.

I feel most people would come down to this. Sort of the "Good wrestling is good wrestling" approach.

 

It is kinda my view too. World of Sport round system works. 2/3 structure in Portland works. Dory vs. Mike Graham "Australian rules" match works. War Games works.

 

If it works it works.

[ohtani's jacket]

It depends on the style. I don't like the German rounds system because I find it confusing and difficult to follow. Portland threw me off because I wasn't used to such a long break between falls. French catch was also strange at first because all of the falls are of equal length and they're all long.

 

WoS is the simplest and most straight forward to me. You know exactly how long the break between rounds will be and how much talking time Walton will have. Lucha is easy to follow once you're familiar with the different match patterns and the way they play around with the fall lengths.

 

What's weird is when you have straight single fall matches in styles that are usually segmented.

[Loss]

What are everyone's thoughts on the expiration of time match in Memphis? I love that as a concept. It probably wouldn't work now, but it worked great for the time and place.