MOTY's for your favorite wrestler(s)?

[Ray]

Apologies if this was posted before, I can't recall if I did.

 

Chris Benoit -

 

1985: w/Rick Patterson vs. Mike Hammer/Butch Moffat - Stampede 11/22

1986: vs. Black Mephisto (Toshiaki Kawada) - Stampede 1/?

1987: w/Owen Hart vs. Zodiac/Jason the Terrible - Stampede 10/23

1988: vs. Johnny Smith - Stampede 5/27

1989: vs. Johnny Smith - Stampede 12/30/88 (aired in 1/89)

1990: vs. Jushin Liger - NJPW 11/1

1991: vs. Owen Hart - NJPW ?/?

1992: vs. Jushin Liger - NJPW 8/12

1993: vs. El Samurai - NJPW 6/15

1994: vs. Great Sasuke - NJPW 4/16

1995: vs. El Samurai - NJPW 7/7

1996: vs. Eddy Guerrero - NJPW 6/11

1997: vs. Shinjiro Ohtani - NJPW 11/2

1998: vs. Bret Hart - WCW Nitro 6/22

1999: vs. Bret Hart - WCW Nitro 10/4

2000: vs. William Regal - Pillman Memorial 5/25

2001: vs. Steve Austin - WWF Smackdown 5/31

2002: w/Kurt Angle vs. Edge/Rey Mysterio - WWE No Mercy

2003: vs. Kurt Angle - WWE Royal Rumble

2004: vs. Shawn Michaels - WWE Raw 5/3

2005: vs. Triple H - WWE Raw 3/14

[Al]

Interesting concept. I'm looking forward to seeing what some of our posters produce.

[Resident Evil]

Apologies if this was posted before, I can't recall if I did.

 

Chris Benoit -

 

1985: w/Rick Patterson vs. Mike Hammer/Butch Moffat - Stampede 11/22

1986: vs. Black Mephisto (Toshiaki Kawada) - Stampede 1/?

1987: w/Owen Hart vs. Zodiac/Jason the Terrible - Stampede 10/23

1988: vs. Johnny Smith - Stampede 5/27

1989: vs. Johnny Smith - Stampede 12/30/88 (aired in 1/89)

1990: vs. Jushin Liger - NJPW 11/1

1991: vs. Owen Hart - NJPW ?/?

1992: vs. Jushin Liger - NJPW 8/12

1993: vs. El Samurai - NJPW 6/15

1994: vs. Great Sasuke - NJPW 4/16

1995: vs. El Samurai - NJPW 7/7

1996: vs. Eddy Guerrero - NJPW 6/11

1997: vs. Shinjiro Ohtani - NJPW 11/2

1998: vs. Bret Hart - WCW Nitro 6/22

1999: vs. Bret Hart - WCW Nitro 10/4

2000: vs. William Regal - Pillman Memorial 5/25

2001: vs. Steve Austin - WWF Smackdown 5/31

2002: w/Kurt Angle vs. Edge/Rey Mysterio - WWE No Mercy

2003: vs. Kurt Angle - WWE Royal Rumble

2004: vs. Shawn Michaels - WWE Raw 5/3

2005: vs. Triple H - WWE Raw 3/14

I may as well make a list for Benoit as well because we can never have too much Benoit love. Great selections by the way.

 

 

This is list of my current favourites which sometimes change.

 

 

 

1985 Benoit/Patterson vs Moffat/Hammer 11/29/85

 

1986 Benoit/Basserb vs Ron Starr/Honkey Tonk Man 2/28/86

 

1987 Benoit/Owen vs Jason/Zodiac 10/23/87 -- Their only time they teamed together in Stampede on television.

 

1988 Benoit vs Smith 6/3/88

 

1989 Benoit vs Smith 12/30/88

 

1990 Benoit vs Lyger New Japan 8/19/90

 

1991 Benoit vs Owen Hart 4/18/91

 

1992 Benoit/Finlay vs Eddie/Casas 4/30/92

 

1993 Benoit vs El Samurai 6/14/93

 

1994 Benoit vs Honaga 9/27/94

 

1995 Benoit vs El Samurai 7/7/95

 

1996 Benoit vs Ohtani 3/20/96

 

1997 Benoit vs Eddie Guerrero 10/20/97 Nitro

 

1998 Benoit vs Malenko 1/12/98 Nitro

 

1999 Benoit vs Malenko 9/13/99 Nitro

 

2000 Benoit vs Regal 5/25/00

 

2001 Benoit vs Austin 5/31/01 Edmonton

 

2002 Benoit/Angle vs Edge/Rey Mysterio Jr. No Mercy

 

2003 Benoit vs Lesnar 12/4/03 Smackdown

 

2004 Benoit vs Orton 8/16/04 Raw

 

2005 Wrestlemania XXI 6 man Ladder in The Bank match

[Loss]

RIC FLAIR

 

1981 - v Jumbo Tsuruta (10/09, AJPW)

1982 - v Kerry Von Erich (08/15, WCCW)

1983 - v Jumbo Tsuruta (06/08, AJPW)

1984 - v Harley Race (05/22, AJPW)

1985 - v Kerry Von Erich (10/22, Hawaii)

1986 - v Barry Windham (02/14, Florida)

1987 - v Barry Windham (04/11, NWA)

1988 - v Lex Luger (07/10, NWA)

1989 - v Ricky Steamboat (03/18, NWA)

1990 - v Lex Luger (02/24, NWA)

1991 - v Hulk Hogan (11/30, WWF)

1992 - v Randy Savage (04/05, WWF)

1993 - v Vader (12/27, WCW)

1994 - v Ricky Steamboat (05/14, WCW)

1995 - v Randy Savage (06/18, WCW)

1996 - v Eddy Guerrero (05/20, WCW)

1997 - -------

1998 - v Bret Hart (01/25, WCW)

1999 - v Chris Benoit (06/03, WCW)

2000 - v Jeff Jarrett (05/15, WCW)

2001 - v Sting (03/26, WCW)

2002 - v Chris Jericho (08/18, WWE)

2003 - v HHH (05/19, WWE)

2004 - v Chris Benoit (02/09, WWE)

 

Proceed with *major* caution on the last half or so of this list. In fact, don't proceed at all.

[Guest Some Guy]

Shawn Michaels

 

91: Rockers/Orient Express, RR 91

92: vs. Bret, Survivior Series 92

93: vs. Marty, Raw (I can't remember the date)

94: Ladder Match, at WM 10

95: Ladder Match, Summerslam 95 (I haven't seen his match with JJ)

96: vs. Foley, IYH Mind Games

97: HiaC, IYH Badd Blood

98: vs. Austin, WM 14

02: vs. HHH, Summerslam 02

03: vs. Jericho, WM 19

04: vs. Benoit, Raw after WM 20 (I can't remember the date and prefer singles matches to 3-ways as a general rule, so I didn't pick WM 20)

05: vs. Edge, Raw (Haven't seen WM 21)

 

Bret Hart

 

88: Hart Foundation vs. Brainbusters, Summerslam 88

89: I can't think of anything off the top of my head.

90: Hart Foundation vs. Demolition (2/3 falls), Summerslam 90)

91: vs. Hennig, Summerslam 91

92: vs. Bulldog, Summerslam 92

93: vs. Hennig, KotR 93

94: vs. Owen, WM 10

95: vs. Nash, Survivor Series 95

96: vs. Austin, Survivor Series 96

97: vs. Austin, WM 13

[Marty]

Bret Hart

 

88: Hart Foundation vs. Brainbusters, Summerslam 88

They faced each other in '89. The Harts faced the Demos in '88.

[Loss]

93: vs. Marty, Raw (I can't remember the date)

 

Is it the match where Marty came out of the crowd incognito and won the title, or is it the match where Jannetty won and they used instant replay which lead to Michaels winning? The first match was on 05/17, the second match was on 07/19.

[goodhelmet]

I've been struggling with this topic. I have a few wrestlers I wanted to mention but want to clarify something. Is this the best match a wrestler had that year or matches that would be considered MOTY's by a particular westler? If it the former, which is how most people are treating it, i'll repsond soon enough. If it is the latter, then most of the matches here do not deserve recognition as MOTYs.

[Loss]

I think the idea is to give props to the best match the wrestler had that year, whether it's a MOTYC or not.

[Guest Some Guy]

Bret Hart

 

88: Hart Foundation vs. Brainbusters, Summerslam 88

They faced each other in '89. The Harts faced the Demos in '88.

Your right, I'll edit it. I typed that while at my father's office waiting for him to finish meeting with a client so I didn't have my trusty PWI Almanac to refresh my memory.

 

Is it the match where Marty came out of the crowd incognito and won the title, or is it the match where Jannetty won and they used instant replay which lead to Michaels winning? The first match was on 05/17, the second match was on 07/19.

The latter.

 

GH, I think I took it as the best match that the wrestler had that year.

[Al]

Let me try something a little different. The Hulk Hogan edition...

 

1979 vs. Ted DiBiase (12/17)

1980 vs. Hulk Hogan (08/09)

1981 vs. Riki Choshu (06/04)

1982 vs. Rocky Balboa, Boxer vs. Wrestler Match

1983 vs. Nick Bockwinkel (4/24)

1984 vs. The Iron Shiek (1/23)

1985 with Mr. T, vs. Roddy Piper & Paul Orndorff (WM I)

1986 vs. Paul Orndorff, steel cage match (12/14)

1987 vs. Andre the Giant (WM III)

1988 with Randy Savage, vs. Andre the Giant and Ted DiBiase (Summerslam)

1989 vs. Randy Savage (WM V)

1990 vs. The Ultimate Warrior (WM VI)

1991 vs. Sgt. Slaughter (WM VII)

1992 vs. Sid Justice (WM VIII)

1993 vs. The Great Muta (5/3)

1994 vs. Ric Flair (7/17)

1995 vs. Big Van Vader (Superbrawl)

1996 with Scott Hall & Kevin Nash, vs. Sting, Randy Savage and Lex Luger (Bash at the Beach)

1997 vs. Sting (Starrcade)

1998 with Eric Bischoff, vs. Dallas Page and Jay Leno (Road Wild)

1999 vs. Kevin Nash (1/4)

2000 vs. Jeff Jarrett (Bash at the Beach)

2001 vs. Curt Hennig (11/14)

2002 vs. The Rock (WM XVIII)

2003 vs. Vince McMahon (WM XIX)

2004 Did Not Wrestle

2005 with Shawn Michaels, vs. Muhammad Hussan and Kosrow Daivari (Backlash)

 

Talk about saving your best work for the big show. A lot of these, especially the Sid match in 1992 are the result of having to pick something. Other matches, such as the Leno match and the Sting match are here for their notoriety and not their quality.

[Guest Some Guy]

I know you said that you picked some because of their noteriety but...

 

The match with Andre sucked. He had much better matches with Savage in 87.

 

The match with Piper at Wrestling Classic was better than the WM 1 ME.

 

I think his MSG Cage Match with Bossman was in 88 and that was better than the Summerslam ME.

 

I think his match with Stan Hansen was in 91 and that was better than the WM 7 ME.

 

1994 vs. Hulk Hogan (7/17)

Who jobbed?

[Al]

The match with Andre sucked. He had much better matches with Savage in 87.

Were any of those televised? I just think the WM III has an aura about it that any house show match can not top, no matter how good.

 

The match with Piper at Wrestling Classic was better than the WM 1 ME.

Just a difference of opinion. I enjoyed the WM match more.

 

I think his MSG Cage Match with Bossman was in 88 and that was better than the Summerslam ME.

That match occured in March of 1989. Hogan barely wrestled in 1988 between Wrestlemania and Summerslam, so the pickings are limited.

 

I think his match with Stan Hansen was in 91 and that was better than the WM 7 ME.

April of 1990 actually. I did forget about that match, but I honestly could not judge if that was better than the Warrior match. Given the high praise assigned, I am going to assume Hogan-Hansen was the better match.

 

And I fixed the Hogan-Flair error.

[Guest Some Guy]

The match with Andre sucked. He had much better matches with Savage in 87.

Were any of those televised? I just think the WM III has an aura about it that any house show match can not top, no matter how good.

There is one on a Hulkamania tape.

 

The match with Piper at Wrestling Classic was better than the WM 1 ME.

Just a difference of opinion. I enjoyed the WM match more.

Fair enough.

 

I think his MSG Cage Match with Bossman was in 88 and that was better than the Summerslam ME.

That match occured in March of 1989. Hogan barely wrestled in 1988 between Wrestlemania and Summerslam, so the pickings are limited.

 

I think his match with Stan Hansen was in 91 and that was better than the WM 7 ME.

April of 1990 actually. I did forget about that match, but I honestly could not judge if that was better than the Warrior match. Given the high praise assigned, I am going to assume Hogan-Hansen was the better match.

Sorry, I wasn't sure about the dates. Hansen/Hogan is pretty good, it's on Hulkamania 6 I think. I would rate Hogan/Warrior over it if for no other reason than the story on the WM 6 match being better and that it was a "passing of the torch match".

 

And I fixed the Hogan-Flair error.

Good, I can't stand people who makes mistakes in threads, this one in particular! I mean, shit, I've only made like 5.

[Loss]

Is it the match where Marty came out of the crowd incognito and won the title, or is it the match where Jannetty won and they used instant replay which lead to Michaels winning? The first match was on 05/17, the second match was on 07/19.

The latter.

That match was given ****3/4 in the Observer and voted PWI Match of the Year for 1993.

[goodhelmet]

I thought the Jannetty title win was he match voted on as MOTY... or was that the Observer MOTY?

[Loss]

That's a common mistake. They had two matches, and the second one was the one voted MOTY. And it was MOTY. Observer MOTY for '93 was Doc/Kobashi from 08/31.

[goodhelmet]

Well, I had no idea. I have never seen the MOTY then. For all of tis time, I thought people were idiots for thinking that first match was a MOTY contender.

[Guest Some Guy]

That's a common mistake. They had two matches, and the second one was the one voted MOTY. And it was MOTY. Observer MOTY for '93 was Doc/Kobashi from 08/31.

They had three is you count the underwhlming RR 93 match.

[silverwidow]

Observer MOTY for '93 was Doc/Kobashi from 08/31.

Oh, God help us...

 

It was actually Toyota/Yamada vs. Kansai/Ozaki from Dreamslam II.

[Loss]

Yes! You're right. Thank you. The Doc/Kobashi line was trumped on a comp I picked up the first time I saw it incorrectly as the Observer MOTY, so I keep forgetting that it finished high (maybe 2nd), but that it actually wasn't.

[Guest MJHimJfadeaway23]

Let's see Mr. Perfect Curt Hennig

 

I'll only do from 87 on (Cause I didn't see/remember much from him from before)

 

1987: vs. Nick Bockwinkle (not the May 2 one) *****

1988: vs. Jerry Lawler ****1/2

1989: vs. Owen Hart ***1/2

1990: vs. Tito Santana ****

1991: vs. Bret Hart ****1/2 (I heard he had much better at houseshows, but didn't see them. Same above)

1992: vs. Ric Flair and Razor Ramon ***1/2

1993: vs. Bret Hart ****1/2

1997: vs. Konnan and Xpac ***

1998: vs. Bret Hart ***

1999: vs. Chris Benoit and Dean Malenko ***

 

 

I'll have to think about the rest. Cause he wrestled so little between these years and his passing it's hard to remember which was when, not to mention most of his matches these years weren't televised.