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  1. Has he actually WATCHED the Murdoch/Reed matches from the Mid-South set?
  2. I can't believe they are going to do an all Divas season of NXT. I read somewhere that it was an attempt to boost ratings. No way I see that happening, I expect just the opposite.
  3. Can someone explain that internet hard-on for Serena? I mean she did next to nothing for her entire run, it's not like all this "oh how could they fire her!?" outrage is over her in ring skills. She was just a bald chick with big tits. Go watch G.I. Jane or something.
  4. Whether she is actually stiffing her opponents or not, I think her Axe Kick looks good. It looks way better than Booker T's and he did it for years. That could be because Booker's was safer, but if so then that's really not a move you can make look like it hurts and be safe with.
  5. Yea but if all you have to rely on is your ass, WWE isn't going to hire you. Tits and face yes, ass no.
  6. Well yea, I mean it was obvious they were just trying to recreate him throwing down the NWA title. Of course it was really stupid and like you said it ignored the context. The more head scratching part was that he actually did end up not being the champion and never defended the belt.
  7. Anyone know the story behind Shane Douglas and the MLW title? I just watched their first show and he wins 3 matches in one night to win their tournament for the belt and then he throws it down and says he doesn't want to be champ of a wannabe promotion. So he looks stupid for wrestling 3 matches for a belt he doesn't want, and the promotion looks like shit. Then the ref acts like he's the owner or something and gets on the mic and tells Shane if he doesn't defend the title he can't wrestle in Pennsylvania anymore. So the show ends with Douglas all freaking out because he has to defend the title. But he never does. He vacates the belt and then Kojima somehow winds up winning it in a match with Jerry Lynn and then defends it on the next MLW show. So what the fuck happened?
  8. I didn't see him as Chief Morley because I wasn't watching at that time period, but I found him to just be very bland during his serious heel run. He just needed an extra something to make it work and they never quite found it. They tried by giving him Trish and then putting him in RTC after that, but none of it seemed to get him to that next level. I think RTC was about as successful as it could have been, it definitely drew heat but it couldn't really go beyond the midcard and I don't know that it really could have lasted any longer than it did. They got some good TV segments out of it and a few matches to fill out a PPV, and I think that was about the extent of where it could go. I think if anyone got wasted coming out of that angle it wasn't Val, it was Stevie.
  9. I'd say that the Val Venis gimmick hurt Morley as much as it helped him, as the gimmick ran its course rather quickly. After it did, WWE would try to push him under new gimmicks (RTC, Chief Morely, etc.) and when they didn't get over, he'd be right back to being Val Venis again within a few months. Morley was a talented wrestler who deserved a better run, but never rose past the midcard in part because of the Val Venis gimmick. It definitely did help him gain recognition faster than he might have otherwise, but it also doomed him to never get past a certain level. Val Venis was a rather shortlived gimmick, but why didn't anyone after Russo come up with anything better than generic RTC villain? Or Bischoff's assistant? I don't know if I would say that Val Venis doomed him, the fact that no one else in the company was creative enough to give him something he could pull off as well as he pulled off Val Venis is what doomed him. Issac Yankem and Fake Diesel were both horrible short lived gimmicks, but Glen Jacobs the performer must have impressed someone enough in working with those gimmicks that down the line they gave him the big push as Kane. It's unfortunate that there was never that next level gimmick change to push Morley over the top, but I can't fault Russo for that.
  10. I think Russo's greatest talent was finding a character for a guy that he felt comfortable with and worked well at. Sean Morley wasn't a porn star and Charles Wright wasn't a pimp but somewhere inside them they had those characters and Russo helped bring them out. There were a lot of undercard WWF guys that benefited from him, but it seems like that talent left him after he left the WWF. I can't think of any character he's created since then that worked even half as good as Val, Godfather, Hardcore Holly or some of the other guys he helped. Not to say he had a perfect batting average at it even in the WWF tho, I mean I don't think Shawn Stasiak was ever comfortable being Meat, ditto with the Beaver Cleavage thing, but I would say at one point he was good at fitting character ideas to the people working them.
  11. His interviews probably added between 100 to 400 thousand extra buys for the PPV. 550 was expected and Dana said the tracking was in the 900 level. Whether you think journalists have been "riding Chael's dick" or not, he was responsible for making the PPV even more of a success. Yea, there really is no argument that all his trash talking caused people to buy this PPV if it does significantly better than 500,000. Anderson Silva is not a draw on PPV, he usually has average or lower buy rates for PPVs that he headlines, so if they really did somewhere around 900 thousand buys that would be pretty incredible. And it's not like the undercard was great, Fitch vs. Alves isn't really a strong semi main event. Even though I thought the whole show turned out great, it wasn't a really hot card on paper.
  12. No, I think Chael was a heel to MMA hardcores because he has a "boring" style, most MMA hardcores hate all wrestlers and say they just "lay and pray." Plus they don't like when guys actually have interesting shit to say pre-fight instead of how much they respect their opponent and oh I trained really hard and zzz...
  13. goc

    RAW tonight

    Lawler was never exactly known for being in "great shape" anyway. Body wise he isn't much different than he ever was.
  14. Yea, I am really not seeing what is so wrong with what he wrote. Does anyone disagree that the media goes into hyper overdrive when there is anything even related to race to cover?
  15. How can you have a PR disaster when you have no presence outside of the internet?
  16. I think it's starting to stretch things a little bit when you start acting like people are totally clueless to pop culture because they don't know all the latest commercials. We are in the age of DVR and torrents, it's very easy to not pay attention to commercials.
  17. goc

    RAW tonight

    1. I doubt they booked that 7 on 7 too far in advance.2. Why wouldn't he want to come back now? He can be the mystery GM and steal all the heat.
  18. Did Kevin Kelly (Nailz) get injured at the end of his AWA run? Or did he just give up on wrestling until the WWF randomly called? Because if you look at Kevin Kelly in the AWA and Nailz in the WWF they are WAY different physically. And it wasn't just he didn't look cut anymore, he also had pretty shitty cardio.
  19. I wouldn't say that Nick has Alzheimer's, my grandfather had Alzheimer's and it's a lot more than being a little forgetful. But Nick did seem to kind of ramble and give very roundabout answers to his questions on the roundtable.
  20. I love Heyman, Gotta give him credit for knowing who to attach himself to.
  21. Any questions about his relationship with Tiamak of the Last Dragon fame? Jimmy talks about it a little bit. He said he was kind of burnt out on wrestling after getting released from WWE. He decided to think of something he wanted to do in wrestling and had an idea to work with Tiamak so he emailed him and then they met and worked it out. The best part of the shoot is Jimmy talking about how he got hired in WCW, all of it stemming from he and his friend dressing up like wrestlers and going to DDP's house for Halloween and meeting DDP. Jimmy comes off like a nice guy, but it's easy to see from his shoot why he never really went too far in WWE. He just comes off as really kind of shy and quiet and not the type of guy that is going to get far in that locker room.
  22. Yea there were essentially two different Lugers. Luger before he ever went to WWF and Luger during and after WWF.
  23. goc

    RAW tonight

    No he didn't. Do you really think he has corporate sources in WWE headquarters, people who are there to run business stuff and have pretty much nothing to do with wrestling? How would he have ever gotten in contact with them, and what would be the point? To get Titan Tower gossip of who doesn't clean up the break room?
  24. Oh well I never meant to say it was a missed opportunity. Only that I thought he would get a World Title reign which for most people on the internet is the holy grail of wrestling achievements. So for SKeith to say he would have been better off because he would have got a run with Da Belt is understandable. But he still wouldn't have been THE top babyface. He'd have been in the same position as he was in 94-95 as number 3 of 4 babyface.
  25. Hall might actually do better in today's WWE. If they had a guy who was at his level holding the IC title today, they would definitely try to push him up the card. Razor Ramon was just as over as HBK or Diesel, and was at least as good or better than Diesel was in the ring. They also don't rely as heavily on one top guy as they did back in that time period. So I can see this one, but that's just because of how different the mid 90s are to today. The IC title meant a lot more then than it does now. It was also a much bigger deal to be the World Champ, it meant you were the top guy. It doesn't mean that now. No one can try and argue that Jack Swagger is the top guy on Smackdown, but he is the World Champ.
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