Timbo Slice

Ohtani's peak from 95-97 is stratospheric. Unbelievable. After that, he does some decent/good stuff in NJPW in the late 90s, then bulks up to heavyweight and doesn't really do much until he becomes the #2 guy to Hash in Zero-One. He has some good stuff with Kojima, but I think a lot of it is forgettable. The one thing he does later in his career that pops me is the Nak IWGP title match with his ode to Hash stuff, which really turns what could have been a good match into a great one. Good stuff in NOAH during that time, too although it's not all that great. Meanwhile, Togo is a top flight lucharesu worker from 94-97, then comes to WWF and gets badly glossed over (which is why people are down on him mostly) then returns and starts slimming down, changing up how he works. From there, it's a lot of moving about the Japanese Indy scene, but if you match up his 2000s with Ohtani's, Togo has more standouts, albeit not in arenas a lot of people looked towards. Here are all the links to what the Segunda Caida guys where watching. http://segundacaida.blogspot.com/2010/09/complete-and-accurate-dick-togo.html?m=1 Togo gets high marks for versatility, which allows him to work damn near everyone in a believable manner. If you put his career up there start to finish in a 20 year span, I don't think you can say Ohtani was that good for that long. That being said, I do think Ohtani's peak was better, and I valued high end stuff better than good stuff over a given time period.

Peak vs. peak, I think Ohtani has Togo beat, but it really is close. I'm also a huge Ohtani mark, so that's what put him a few more spots above Togo in my book, but I do think Togo's had the better career overall, even if it didn't hit the highs Ohtani's did.

Thought Mutoh might have been lower on the Top 100, but as I said in that quote, he's incredibly polarizing. If you are a big fan of his highs, you'll rate him highly.

I'm seeing a lot of Angle talk with blanket adjectives about him being "impressive" and "memorable" without much deep dives, which is basically the most Kurt Angle description of Kurt Angle ever.

Samoa Joe still rules. All is right with the world.

Man alive. I guess my record keeping hasn't been as good as I thought. Or my memory.

Togo being in the Top 75 is awesome. He was probably the first guy I dove into when I started getting back into wrestling a few years back, and it started with that Honda match. Truly one of the best overall wrestlers I've ever seen, and I think it's pretty sad that he didn't get a better run with the bigger Japanese promotions. That being said, it allowed him to do basically whatever he wanted and he wrestled all over the world, so it wasn't all bad. I'm now 63 left for the Top 70. Still waiting on Benoit, Michaels, Angle, Christian (Who I now want to get to the Top 50) and three others that are escaping me right now.

I think there's plenty Jericho has done well, but it seems like it's good in a timely manner. At the time of JeriShow, the Rey feud and the Michaels feud, general consensus was that it was all great stuff. As time went on, I think people just either got over it or forgot about it. What hurts Jericho for me is that while I can go back and enjoy older stuff and still think highly of it for basically everyone on my Top 100, I don't know what Jericho has does that for me, if there is anything.

Also, Hogan himself has said he just kept working heel as a babyface so I don't see it as some revelation that he was an asshole.

His rep hasn't, but to me, the more I watched, the more I saw who I thought were better than Hase. Basically all the Hase that is out there is out there, and I thought he was good, but didn't do anything that stood out to me in terms of all time status. He's a good worker though. Atlantis the next to drop. Glad to see him make it to the Top 75.

So I'm in a spot where of the last 74, I have 67 (!!!) in play right now. Meaning no to me on Benoit, Jericho, Angle, Michaels, and 3 others. Alright then. While Hogan's charisma can't be denied and he wasn't nearly as bad a worker as some have suggested, I just became so tired of him growing up I didn't even think of him anywhere near this project. Loss' point about Hogan is fantastic and 100 percent correct. He's the worker that represents what dumb people think Springsteen was saying in "Born in the U.S.A."

Dear 2026, If you do nominations, make sure SUWA is nominated. Sincerely, The Moron Who Forgot To And Would Have Definitely Voted For Him

BONG!

Ah, fuck. Forgot Nak dropped already. Buzzkill.

Nakamura is gonna finish above Tanahashi. I'll take that. TAJIRI is gonna finish above Tanahashi, which fills my heart with joy.

Garvin was my 63, and now I want to see how high Valentine gets.

Like, if Samoa Joe seriously falls below Zayn in all this (regardless of placement), recency bias might be the biggest contributor to these rankings, even more than availability of footage.

What's pushing Zayn is that he's got an aesthetically pleasing style, his selling is dramatic as a perennial babyface, and he has enough high profile stuff that recency bias can make his best stuff in the last couple years in NXT really make his case for some people. I'm not buying it in the slightest, especially considering it's a snowball effect of indy stuff that, while good in some aspects, isn't nearly as good as Ki or Hero's best stuff, and really, not nearly as good as Cesaro's best stuff, either. He really seems like one of those likable guys that does cool stuff and fits that babyface archetype that nowadays is a true rarity.

If I'm ranking lists, Mando's might be #1 for me right now. That's fantastic

Not in a world where Angelo Poffo exists. Or CM Punk.

Tanahashi having a sustained period of highs (in his supporters eyes) as opposed to Nakamura having ups and downs does better in a majority. That being said, if you're a Tanahashi fan and think his best stuff is better than Nak's best, I would take pause.

Dandy is gonna place relatively high because there are people VERY high on him. The Lucha footage explosion probably helped him more than damn near anyone.

Nak and Parka finishing close makes sense to me.

There are a lot of guys in the top 150 or so that are highly ranked because if you really liked him, you placed him HIGH. Ikeda, Ishikawa, Chicana, and the guy who will probably have the highest ranking of those guys, Buddy Rose. They're all guys that rank extremely high if you're a fan of their work.

Chicana was someone I didn't really get until I saw the MS-1 match, then it was like a train hit me. Might be the best Lucha brawler I've ever seen, and as far as fired up baby faces go, Parv would go crazy about him.