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Santino has huge potential. I think he would be great as a manager who can occasionally take bumps, maybe paired with someone who is good in some areas, but lacks charisma. Maybe he could actually get Benjamin and Haas over or something.

It amazes me that they can pay that level of attention to detail, but can't keep any continuity in their storylines at all.

Oddly enough, I just learned watching RAW that Hornswoggle is better at working a crowd and has more over signature spots than Shelton Benjamin and Charlie Haas combined.

I could use a lot more suggestions. I'm having trouble figuring out what to put on this month's DVD.

For crying out loud, you're a television star and make a good income -- hire a freakin' cleaning service.

None thankfully, looking at Graham Cawthon's match listing. NWA this week has the Ric Flair/Ron Garvin title match I've seen praised in quite a few places. I'd be curious to see some thoughts from those who have seen it. I haven't gotten to it myself on the show yet. Really awesome, INCREDIBLY stiff match with both guys beating the hell out of each other. I think it will be well received. Good match for people to watch who think Flair only had one type of match he could do.

This book is incredible. I have decided I do think this is better than the Foley or Dynamite books. I don't know where the idea came from that this story is overly flowery or somehow holds back and doesn't dish dirt, considering how honest he is about his own drug use, his groupies, the drug use of those around him, and his honest feelings on EVERYONE. I don't think there's anyone in the book that he ONLY says good things about, including Flair, Hogan, Hall, Nash, Bischoff, Vampiro, Konnan, Benoit, Guerrero, etc. His stories of being offered a joint in front of Rey Misterio Jr. the first time he met him, and being all indignant because he thought they were doing drugs in front of some kid, getting a fan video from some girl in SMW with everyone in her family repeating "Chris Jericho is my favorite wrestler" over and over while doing the Electric Slide and farting, going to the Hart House for the first time and standing at the door ringing the doorbell forever while Stu and Helen sat and stared at him from the foyer, doing GHB for the first time at the Super J Cup in '95, getting yelled at by Jim Cornette for not sleeping with all the girls in the territory, everyone getting loaded before their matches at the Worldwide tapings in WCW pretty regularly, and a bunch of other stuff I'm sure I'm forgetting. It doesn't really come across as a book where Jericho has axes to grind at all, but he's definitely very honest about his true thoughts on everyone.

I like both guys. In the case of Orton, he wasn't really ready for the push he was getting at first, but I feel like he eventually grew into it. Orton seems to be a bit of a mess, but it's easy to look at him and watch him wrestle and understand why WWE thinks he's the future, even if you don't agree with the train of thought. Orton is in a better position than anyone in the company right now in terms of big feuds on the horizon (HHH, Michaels, Jericho, Cena). HHH, for all his manuevering, doesn't have as many big programs on the horizon. Neither does Jericho, even after being gone for two years.

I'm angry at historians. One vote for Rey? Really?

Well, two wrongs don't entirely make a right. ROH at least presents wrestling as something serious, so I don't think it's as much an issue there as it is in WWE and TNA, where they present wrestling as an action-based comedy show, which comes across as them saying they think it's HILARIOUS and inspires comedic inspiration when wrestlers die. Whether that's how it's intended or not, that's how it comes across. I'm sure in their minds, they think it's just a case of looking at the bright side.

You still don't think the Benoit tragedy, talk of Congressional hearings and WWE suspending/firing/losing the majority of their roster were big stories, do you?

In this case, I'm much less cynical. I think they knew that because they were advertising a John Cena main event they couldn't deliver, and they weren't ready to debut Jericho yet, they had to put together a show to make people feel like they got their money's worth, so they went all out and did two title changes and three HHH matches. If anything, HHH got more out of winning and then losing the title than he would have simply winning it, and Orton got more out of beating HHH cleanly -- as a heel, mind you -- than he would have had the title change been done another way. They did the best with what they had, which was basically HHH, Orton and no other main event guys until Jericho comes in and the HHH/Kennedy feud takes off (if that's still planned).

This is glorious. I'm reading through old WONs right now and was reading the recap of Capital Combat '90. Check this out. The Rock & Roll Express beat The Freebirds in a Corporal Punishment match in 18:59. I was originally told that Corporal Punishment match was simply Jim Herd's idea for a new name for what was known in Texas and the old UWF as a Country Whipping match, in which all four guys would come in with a leather belt and get to whip each other until they looked like zebras. However, the Rock & Roll weren't in the Mid South when those matches took place, and they were invented (I could be wrong about this but I believe I actually saw the very first one ever on Labor Day of 1983 between Kerry Von Erich and Michael Hayes in Fort Worth) AO (After Ole). Luckily, they never really explained the stipulations on TV. From what little was said, it appeared Morton (the spokesman for his team) thought it was another name for an Indian Strap match (all four tied together with a strap, the old Wahoo McDaniel specialty match from the 70s and early 80s) and the TV show where Ole Anderson did commentary, it appeared Ole also thought it was a new name for an Indian Strap match. A few things happened on the way to this match. First off, it was apparently "supposed" to last more than 25 minutes, which a Country Whipping match simply can't do (you can only avoid beating someone to death with belts for so long before they really are beaten to death). Then a certain individual who will go nameless but his namesake was a famous cowboy was told to buy whips for the match. Instead of buying leather belts, he went to a sex shop and bought a cat-o-nine tails. Well, you certainly can't whip someone with that for 20 minutes either, so they tied the whips to the ropes and used them two or three brief flurries during the match, and aside from those brief flurries it was just a regular match. As a match itself, it was a good match, but it wasn't what was advertised. Finish saw Hayes gave Morton the DDT, and when he went for a second DDT, Morton came off the top ropes with a sunset flip for the pin. **3/4

No main event! I'm amazed at WWE right now, that they expect anyone to buy this without knowing the top match. They were also advertising Orton/Cena all weekend. I saw commercials for it last night. Anyway, discuss the show here. I'm sure if Jericho returns on the show, there will be at least a short-term buzz.

Wrestling is being scrutinized right now, and it's mocking its own problems in storylines. There are problems inherent with that, yes.

Simple question. This always comes up as a sidebar topic when discussing wrestlers, but I think it's a worthwhile topic in itself. Is too much emphasis placed on MOVES by most Internet wrestling fans? Discuss.

Monsters who sell are always better than monsters who don't. Yokozuna did a lot of selling. Vader did a lot of selling. The ones that suck are usually the ones that don't sell.

His implication was that no one who had watched wrestling for any length of time would like Chris Jericho. It's funny simply because it's so petty.

Hogan still uses that talking point, but yeah, you don't hear it as much from Vince and his ilk anymore.

Actually, the opinion among the hardcores, especially after he turned heel in 1987, was that Taylor would be the next Ric Flair. So he was someone who most thought would one day be carrying a company as world champion. It was considered a major disappointment when he showed up on WWF TV and they would do stuff like have Heenan do promos talking about how he was smart enough to take someone even as limited as Taylor and get them to the top.

It's more the way he always works in a backhanded compliment when discussing Jericho. I'm laughing more at Wade's general snark than I am the points he's making.

This is clearly a steroid injury.

More Jericho hate!

I plan on making Disc 3 this weekend. I want to keep it moving like clockwork in the future with about 4 weeks between discs. That averages an hour of wrestling watching per week, which still gives everyone plenty of time to be extroverted and interesting people who win at life. I will also be sending out information this weekend by e-mail on how to get the next disc. To reiterate, anyone interested for the first time should PM me the following: Real Name Address E-mail address Thanks!