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  1. I thought that was an interesting article, but it's just as speculative as everything else out there since he has never worked for WWE.
  2. I don't know, Rey masks were hotcakes for a while, and Jericho was the third top merchandise seller in 2000-2001 WWF, behind only Austin and Rock. Jericho told Dave once he has never had below a seven figure year in WWE and when Rey was at his peak as a draw and merchandise mover a few years back, he seemed to be a much bigger needle mover than Punk.
  3. I know Punk has saved his money, but do we really believe he is worth more money than Jericho and Rey? Both have quite a few years on him.
  4. I understand that's how he sees things and I agree that there were some missed opportunities. But surely he doesn't think he's the only person who has the right to grind his axe. There are guys like Jericho and Rey who probably had more screwy booking and less support from management. Does he think the bad things that have happened to him are somehow worse, or does he just have a different threshold than they do? I agree that the opportunities wasted as it relates to Punk are unfortunate. What I don't understand is what makes his situation worse than quite a few other people, or if he even sees it that way.
  5. That RAW he mentioned is the one from the night Vince bought WCW, by the way. It contains a Nitro simulcast. Pretty surreal night.
  6. My favorite WCW story is still when Starrcade '94 sold out the arena and most front office employees had never seen such a thing happen. So many of them were posing in front of the building for pictures all day holding a sign that said "Sold Out".
  7. Obviously he didn't have enough time.
  8. Yeah, agreed with goodhelmet, especially in WCW. Sometimes, there were pictures of matches that weren't even on the show on WCW video boxes.
  9. I think I'd go with Sting/Cactus just because it's hard to call a singles match involving the world champion not the main event, even if it's a non-title match. And I think the title wasn't on the line because of the gimmick, and the feeling it devalued the credibility of the title to have it decided in a falls count anywhere match.
  10. I don't really know how to respond to that. Were you watching in 1997? I'm not saying that to say you're not entitled to an opinion if you weren't, but more that I don't know that you understand the landscape at that point.
  11. Re: Shawn vs Angle, I gave them some credit because they had the crowd and there were some moments sprinkled throughout that worked really well. I didn't care for the match much on a personal level, but I'm not going to call it outright bad just because a lot of it wasn't really my thing. The Cena booing was hinted as early as No Way Out 2005, maybe sooner, when Angle guzzled him and the crowd booed Cena's comebacks. He was still getting established at this point and working with guys who were attempting to make themselves look good at his expense is what really got the booing going. Yes, he was put over these guys clean, but the matches were often worked in a way that seemed designed to make him look undeserving, like his spot was just being handed to him instead of him earning it and having a struggle. Notice he didn't get booed in the Umaga match either. There's a common denominator there. Now, for Vengeance 2005: - I was able to give the first Angle vs Michaels match credit for being good but not really being what I like in my wrestling. I can't do that here at all. The anklelock stuff is nauseating, not just for Shawn sitting in it so long, but for Angle going for it so often that it became repetitive and boring. These guys don't really match up well. Not a good match. - Cena vs Christian vs Jericho was another type of match that isn't really my thing, but it was well-worked and I give them credit. All the annoying stuff present in three-way matches was present here (third guy laid out for long stretches, the electric chairdrop, vertical suplex combo that I really hate), but they had the crowd, cut a good pace and neither guy seemed like they were out to upstage Cena. I'd go 3 3/4* for this and call it match of the night. - HHH vs Batista? Well, it was definitely a brutal match, but so much of it was centered around props that it felt cheap. The big chain and the chair wrapped in barbed wire were a bigger focus than the hate and emotion, so it was a little on the stunty side for me. Give HHH credit for putting Batista over convincingly yet again to wrap up the rivalry for good, but they were relying on the weapons as too much of a crutch for my tastes. Not really anything that piqued my interest on the Great American Bash '05 lineup except Eddy vs Rey, so that's all I watched. I think it's the least of their series. Eddy spends most of the match standing at ringside talking to the all the family players in their feud. It works for furthering the plot, but I don't think it was that good of a match. Wish it had been on TV instead.
  12. Really? I'm not sure Hart contributed too much to the style and presentation that was fashionable during the boom. If anything, he was sort of the antithesis to all that, except for the shooty stuff with the Foundation in 1997. You could argue for HBK as someone who really influenced the Attitude Era stuff without getting to reap the financial and other benefits of being around when the product as at its hottest. The 20-minute promos, profanity-laced tirades, "shades of grey" stuff (heel in the US, babyface everywhere else), helping Austin become a star, shifting television to a more episodic format with stuff like the ambulance episode of RAW, and his real-life situation being what spawned Mr. McMahon? Yeah, I'd say he contributed quite a bit to it. I've always seen the WWF's turnaround as something that was slow coming and happened over the course of a year. Bret turning heel coincided with a rebranding of RAW, Austin becoming a babyface and Vince Russo becoming the head writer.
  13. He's supposedly a park ranger now and got out of wrestling voluntarily, which is probably a good move. He didn't have his father's talent and supposedly had a completely different personality (read: he was actually normal), so it's good he moved on.
  14. Bret Hart was a table setter for a huge era where he sadly didn't get to reap the benefits because of outside circumstances. I'm not sure if that same truth applies to Punk or not.
  15. Works perfect on Apple TV too.
  16. Loss

    Current WWE

    Whoa, how was Kane vs Daniel Bryan that good? Kane sells his ass off for Bryan and sort of channels his inner workrate. Really good match worth seeing.
  17. Last night will hopefully put the chants to bed. I think WWE got across the message that they'd love to have him back, but he won't come back, so get off our asses about it.
  18. I will say Undertaker is fragile at this point. The Shield took care of him on that spot last summer and he still got hurt from it. But that was a silly spot to try anyway.
  19. Anything after 1989 has Muta dogging it in his WCW appearances. I think Steiners vs Nasty Boys from Halloween Havoc '90 is a good pick. Maybe the tag featuring the JWP wrestlers from Wrestle War '91. For full shows, I think Spring Stampede '94 and Slamboree '94 both have tons of variety and are worth checking out. I keep thinking of matches that were on Clashes, sadly.
  20. They've added really clever episode titles for each of the RAWs and Smackdowns that are available. Some of my favorites: - Being John Laurinitis - She Loves You Yes! Yes! Yes! - To Catch An Apex Predator - Face To Goat Face - Daniel vs Goliath - The Vegan Wears Prada
  21. They have everything from 2012 and 2013. They also have everything from 2014 that's over a month old, which is when they can add it without violating their television deals.
  22. Check this thread. http://prowrestlingonly.com/index.php?/topic/25269-top-100-wwe-matches-of-2013/ Everything on Raw, Smackdown or pay-per-view is on the network.
  23. Just finished Judgment Day 2005. Probably my favorite show of the year at this point with an insane main event. - The MNM vs Haas/Holly match was a solid opener, but at 7 minutes, I would have liked to have seen them get more time. Haas was kind of clueless-seeming in the ring, but he seemed okay in a tag setting. MNM was gold right away. - Eddy/Rey was outstanding and this isn't one in their series I hear much talk about. Eddy spends most of the match trying to permanently injure Rey's back and they play off the brainbuster on the steps from Smackdown when Eddy turned. Rey comes to fight and shows a completely different side. He's really aggressive and throws great punches. They didn't go into blood territory, probably to protect the main event, but this was a terrific, intense match. I'd go 4 1/4*, and call it yet another great match in their series. - Cena vs JBL was a total war! Notice the crowd is totally behind Cena. Notice he's facing a real heel. Both guys are a bloody mess and I love the finish. They worked this smart, with Cena getting completely dominated early and having to make a huge comeback. I think they were trying to make clear he was a tough guy. You have to wonder how the 50/50 crowd stuff might have died had he had access to the blade all these years. You also have to wonder how someone like HHH might have gotten over before him without access to the blade. 4 1/2* match - the best of the year so far.
  24. They say there are no babyfaces and heels, but that's just talk. There are still clear babyfaces and heels in the company. Last night's RAW proves that more than anything else I can point to. No way Undertaker loses. He's never going to lose. Ever. I do think he may do a job at some point, but he'll end up wrestling an extra match on a show like Summerslam and do it there so the streak stays intact. If he was going to lose, it would also be to someone like Cena, not Brock.
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