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For anybody here it's probably all stuff that's easy to find but it's definitely a cool general release for their fans. You get some older stuff and then the later stuff are less memorable ones from those matchups that people probably forgot about or didn't know even existed. I've got a list of a bunch of stuff I'd like to see that is likely to have been taped but never been released and for Bret I've got the following listed... Bret Hart/Ultimate Warrior vs. Papa Shango/Kamala (WWF TV Taping Saskatchewan 10-13-92) Bret Hart/Owen Hart vs. Money Inc (WWF TV Taping Fresno 1-27-93) Bret Hart/Owen Hart vs. The Headshrinkers (WWF TV Taping Lowell 12-14-93) Bret Hart vs. Hakushi (WWF Evansville 7-25-95 Cage Match) Bret Hart/Shawn Michaels vs. Steve Austin/Vader (WWF Chicago 12-26-96) Bret Hart vs. Shawn Michaels vs. The Undertaker (WWF 1st MSG RAW 9-22-97 Dark Match) Bret Hart vs. Hulk Hogan (WCW San Fran 8-20-99/Reno 8-21/LA 8-22/Pensacola 9-3/Tallahassee 9-4) There's also the first Perfect match from Philly and the Alaska one mentioned in his book plus a couple tags with Michaels from 95 but I doubt any were taped.

The high-level or highly-hyped matches that are exclusive to them and that I've always heard about are the two Styles-Daniels-Joe matches, the Angle-Joe match and the Sabu-Abyss barbed wire match. The next things I would think to look for would be the best Ultimate X match, and bests from Beer Money and MCMG.

I think a lot of the guy's work. They put him with all the guys they wanted to elevate over the last year and a half and he gave a ton in the process. You'd think he was ready to retire the way he's been booked, yet he still maintains the same heat and he did a bunch of fresh stuff over the course of that time. Before that, I felt he did great villain work in a Mania main event program. I think he would deliver that all-time classic match if the program presented itself moreso now than ever.

To me the guy's best stuff to judge from is... -Foley (Backlash 04) -Benoit (Summerslam 04) -Taker (Mania 21) -HHH (No Mercy 07) -Cena (Breaking Point 09) The Summerslam 07 with him and Cena delivered in its spot, but to me a high opinion on it would be a little inflated and stem from there being the typical hot NY/NJ crowd that it was worked in front of. But, great or good? I'll call the Foley and Cena great. Not all-time classics but great matches. The HHH match was a ton of fun, and the Taker and Benoit matches surprised me.

Not All Japan here but one oddball is that Taker-Bulldog WWF Title match from Canada that weekend between Survivor Series 91 and Tuesday in Texas. It was posted in some thread a while back. Aired up there and in Europe only I believe.

There's five out there. Dayton was their 1st match at a 10-23-91 Challenge taping but isn't out there. Oakland 10-25-91, San Francisco 11-15-91, Philly 11-30-91, MSG 11-30-91 and MSG 12-29-91. Both the MSGs were awesome. Great pace.

What are the Rude-Sting matches to see? One of the Clash matches just came up in a thread recently with some talk about the heat it had. I know they had two COTC matches, Spring Stampede 94, Japan with the injury and a King of Cable tourney one. Not sure which are the tops though.

Post-70s... U.S. Junkyard Dog vs. Michael PS Hayes (Superdome 8-2-80 Steel Cage Dog Collar Match) Harley Race vs Ken Patera (St Louis 8-8-80) -jdw Harley Race vs Bob Backlund (St. Louis 11-7-80/1-4-85) -Tabe Ken Patera vs. Pedro Morales (MSG 12-8-80 IC Title Change) -MikeCampbell Bob Backlund vs Don Muraco (MSG 8-24-81 Hour Draw) -jdw Bob Backlund vs Don Muraco (Boston Garden 12-5-81 Steel Cage Match) -jdw Bob Backlund vs Jimmy Snuka (MSG 4-26-82) -Qaenos High Flyers vs Strike Force (AWA St. Paul July82/JIP) -khawk20 Ric Flair vs. Bob Backlund (Omni 7-4-82) Ric Flair vs. Stan Hansen (Omni 10-3-82 & 6-3-84) Nick Bockwinkel vs Otto Wanz (Chicago Amphitheatre 10/9/82 AWA Title rematch) -khawk20 Ric Flair vs. Andre the Giant (Orlando 2-13-83) Ric Flair vs. Greg Valentine (Greensboro 3-12-83 Hour Draw from Final Conflict) Dynamite Kid vs Curt Hennig/Buddy Rose/Brian Adidas (Portland Aug/Sept/Oct 83) -RobNaylor Hulk Hogan vs Harley Race (St. Louis 10-8-83) -Tabe Bob Backlund vs. Masked Superstar (MSG 11-21-83 rematch) -Tabe Hulk Hogan vs. Iron Sheik (Boston Garden 2-11-84 Texas Death Match) -BrianFowler/Slickster Harley Race vs Rick Martel (St Louis 10-26-84 Hour Draw) -jdw Steel Cage Battle Royal (WWF Landover & Omni 11-22-84) King of the Rings (Foxboro 7/8/85 & 7/14/86, Providence 9/4/87, 10/16/88, 10/14/89) Ric Flair vs. Dick Murdoch (Jackson 7-30-85 Hour Draw) -Busterira Ric Flair vs. Buddy Landel (Raleigh 7-31-85) - RobNaylor US Express vs Hart Foundation (Orlando 8/19/85) -Pbhero Tully Blanchard vs Magnum TA (NWA TV Taping 10-19-85) -JKWebb Curt Hennig/Scott Hall vs Steve Regal/Jimmy Garvin (Albuquerque 1-18-86 AWA Tag Title Change 55 Mins) Jerry Lawler/Dutch Mantell vs Bill Dundee/Buddy Landel (Memphis 3-24-86 Texas Death Match 28 Falls/60 Mins) Dream Team vs British Bulldogs (WWF Summer86 Cage Matches) Ric Flair vs. Rick Martel (Quebec City 45 Min Draw 7/22/86) -KanadianKrusty Owen James vs Steve Lombardi (WWF Ontario TV Taping 7-28-86) Harley Race vs Ricky Steamboat (WWF Toronto Maple Leaf Gardens 10-26-86 Curfew Draw) -Pbhero Hulk Hogan vs. Jake Roberts (WWF Providence 12-30-86 & 1-29-87/Winnipeg 2-28-87) Hulk Hogan/Ken Patera vs. Andre the Giant/Hercules (WWF South Bend 4-28-87 SNME Taping) -Dave2430 Randy Savage vs. Ricky Steamboat (WWF Long Island 5-1-87 Cage Match) Harts vs. Bulldogs (WWF May/June87 Cage Matches) -MattD Harts vs. Rougeaus (WWF Montreal 8-10-87 Tag Title Change) -MikeCampbell R&R Express vs Blanchard/Anderson (Charlotte 10-3-87 Cage Match) - HeavenSeeker Strike Force vs. Islanders (Cage Matches WWF Miami 11-10-87/Indianapolis 11-14-87/South Bend 11-15-87) -MattD Ted Dibiase vs Ricky Steamboat (WWF Nov/Dec87) -Andy from NY Hulk Hogan vs. One Man Gang (WWF Meadowlands 12-13-87 Cage Match) -MattD Eric Embry vs Jason Sterling (WCCW Dallas 6-17-88) -RobNaylor Jerry Lawler vs. Doug Furnas (Knoxville 7-22-88) -TimEvans Battle Royal (Starrcade 88 Dark Match) - JWLJN John Tenta vs. Mr. Perfect (WWF El Paso TV Taping 3-7-89) -Hadley Bret Hart vs Mr Perfect (WWF Alaska 8-12-89) Rockers vs. Rougeaus (WWF Aug/Sept/Oct 89 Iron Man Matches) -Nick/btymb Great Muta vs Sting (Omni 9-3-89 Vacant TV Title) Bret Hart vs Dino Bravo (WWF Toronto 10-29-89) -KingKang Hulk Hogan/Big Boss Man vs. Andre the Giant/Haku (WWF Milwaukee 3-24-90) -flyonthewall2983 Jim Powers vs. Brooklyn Brawler (WrestleMania VI Dark Match) - Lee Ultimate Warrior/Kerry Von Erich vs. Rick Rude/Mr. Perfect (WWF Aug90 Pre-Summerslam) -flyonthewall2983 Steiners vs. Midnight Express (Jersey 8-24-90 US Tag Title change) - BloodyChamp Undertaker vs Dusty Rhodes (WWF Syracuse TV Taping 11-20-90 Pre-Debut) Ric Flair vs. Sting (WCW Meadowlands 1-11-91 Title Change/JIP) Andre the Giant/Rockers vs Mr Fuji/Orient Express (WWF Belfast 4-26-91) Battle Royal (WWF Long Island 5-10-91 Andre's last match) -JWLJN Randy Savage vs Undertaker (WWF Portland TV Taping 7-30-91) Mr Fuji vs Bobby Heenan (WWF Long Island 8-2-91) -Jerryvonkramer Sting vs Steve Austin (WCW Omni 8-25-91 US Title Tourney Final) Ric Flair vs Hulk Hogan (WWF Dayton TV Taping 10-22-91) Ricky Steamboat/Dustin Rhodes vs. Arn Anderson/Bobby Eaton (45min draw - WCW Omni 91 Thanksgiving) -IronChad Ricky Steamboat/Dustin Rhodes vs. Arn Anderson/Bobby Eaton (Best of 3 Falls - WCW Omni 91 Christmas) -TeleViper Jushin Liger vs. Brian Pillman (WCW Omni 12-25-91 Title Change) Hulk Hogan vs Jake Roberts (WWF Springfield 1-17-92) Bret Hart vs The Mountie (WWF Springfield 1-17-92 IC Title change) - DracAttack Money Inc vs LOD (WWF Denver 2-7-92 Tag Title Change) Cactus Jack vs. Abdullah the Butcher (WCW Omni 2-9-92 Cage Match) -PhilUK Jake Roberts vs. Randy Savage (WWF Feb/March92 Cage Matches) -MattD Sid Justice vs. Ultimate Warrior (WWF Boston 4-25-92/Baltimore 4-26-92) Bret Hart/Owen Hart vs Money Inc (WWF Fresno TV Taping 1-27-93) Shawn Michaels vs Marty Jannetty (WWF Albany 6-6-93 IC Title Change/Diesel debut) Steiners vs. Money Inc (WWF Rockford 6-16-93 Tag Title Change) - Sebbeh65 Steiners vs. Money Inc (WWF St. Louis 6-19-93 Tag Title Change) - Sebbeh65 Sabu vs. Owen Hart (WWF Glens Falls 10-19-93) Sabu vs. Scott Taylor (WWF Burlington TV Taping 10-20-93) Steve Austin/Brian Pillman vs Ric Flair/Ricky Steamboat (WCW London Royal Albert Hall 10-30-93) Steve Austin/Vader vs. Ric Flair/Arn Anderson (WCWSN 11-20-93 Finish) -BigRob Bret Hart/Owen Hart vs. The Headshrinkers (WWF Lowell 12-14-93) Shawn Michaels/Diesel vs. The Headshrinkers (WWF Indianapolis 8-28-94 Tag Title Change) Undertaker/Tracy Smothers/Bob Armstrong vs The Gangstas (SMW 4-15-95) Chris Benoit vs. Bob Holly (WWF RAW Dark Match 6-5-95) Chris Benoit vs Adam Bomb (WWF West Virginia 6-6-95) Chris Benoit vs. Owen Hart (WWF Pennsylvania 6-7-95) Bret Hart vs. Hakushi (WWF Evansville 7-25-95 Cage Match) -Teq Rey Misterio Jr/Super Calo/Winners vs Sabu/Psicosis/Cactus Jack (AAA/ECW Chicago 10-30-95) Public Enemy vs. Smoking Gunns (WWF Survivor Series 95 Dark Match) -Hadley Shawn Michaels vs. Bret Hart (Lumberjack Matches WWF Springfield 3-3-96/Providence 3-4/Austin 3-5) Dwayne Johnson vs. Brooklyn Brawler (WWF Corpus Christi TV Tapings 3-10-96) Shawn Michaels/Bret Hart vs. Steve Austin/Vader (WWF Chicago 12-26-96) Terry Funk vs. Raven vs. Sandman vs. Stevie Richards (ECW Arena 5-10-97) -SeanLiska Tracy Smothers vs Chris Candido (ECW Allentown 7-12-97) -DylanWaco Steve Austin vs Bret Hart (WWF Indianapolis 7-25-97/Cleveland 7-26-97) Shawn Michaels vs. Bret Hart vs. Undertaker (WWF MSG RAW 9-22-97 Dark Match) Steven Regal vs. Dan Severn (NWA 50th Anniversary Show 10-24-98) Owen Hart vs Kurt Angle (WWF RAW Dark Match 5-10-99) Bret Hart vs. Hulk Hogan (WCW 8-20-99 San Fran/8-21 Reno/8-22 LA/9-3 PCola/9-4 Tallahassee) FBI vs. Doring/Roadkill (WWF RAW 6-5-01 Dark Match) -BrandonBones Eddie Guerrero vs. CM Punk (IWC 4-26-02 IC Title Match) -IWCpromoter Brock Lesnar vs Triple H (WWE South Dakota 9-6-02) Guerrero/Misterio vs Nitro/Mercury (WWE April05 House Shows 30Min+) -Kostka Eddie Guerrero vs Undertaker (WWE Aug05 Poughkeepsie/Knoxville/Johnson City/Charleston) ECW Arena Show (WWE 6-24-06) Samoa Joe vs Tyson Kidd (WWE RAW 6-1-15 Dark Match) My own list... Ric Flair vs. Roddy Piper (WWF TV Tapings Wheeling 9-30-91) Ric Flair vs. Randy Savage (WWF TV Taping Hershey 9-1-92 First Match before Re-Shoot) Sabu/Hawk vs. Terry Funk/King Kong Bundy (ECW November to Remember 93/CLIPPED) Eddie Guerrero vs. Marty Jannetty (ECW Enter Sandman 5-13-95) Sabu vs. Cactus Jack vs. Mr. Hughes vs. Virgil (NWC 6-24-95 Cage Weapons Stretcher Match/CLIPS) Sabu vs. Chris Kanyon (WCW TV Tapings South Carolina 8-22-95/CLIPS) Rey Misterio Jr. vs. Mikey Whipwreck (ECW Jim Thorpe PA 11-17-95/CLIPPED) Rey Misterio Jr. vs. Juventud Guerrera - (ECW Big Ass Extreme Bash Night 1 Queens 3-8-96/CLIPPED) Bret Hart vs. Sid (WWF MSG 3-16-97 Cage Match) (Less Likely Taped) Ric Flair vs. Hulk Hogan (WWF Omni 1-5-92) Ric Flair vs. Undertaker (WWF Albuquerque 3-27-92 Steel Cage) Ric Flair vs. Randy Savage (WWF Charlotte 7-11-92) Ric Flair vs. Jim Duggan (WWF Hyannis 7-19-92) Ric Flair vs. Tito Santana (WWF Germany 9-24-92) Ric Flair vs. Big Boss Man (WWF Germany 2-5-93) Ric Flair vs. Undertaker (WWF Germany 2-9-93) Chris Benoit/Dean Malenko vs. Cactus Jack/Mikey Whipwreck (ECW Kennett Square PA 2-24-95) Great Sasuke vs. Al Snow (ECW Arena 10-18-97) JAPAN Finlay/Roberts vs Fujiwara/Kido - NJPW 7/14/83 Gagne/Brunzell vs Brody/Hansen - AJPW 4/16/84 Funks vs Bulldogs - RWTL84 Tsuruta/Taue vs Misawa/Kobashi - 4/7/92 (Misawa submits Taue) Kawada vs Hansen - CC93 Misawa/Kobashi vs Baba/Hansen - RWTL93 Full Misawa/Kobashi vs Williams/Ace - 5/28/94 (Ace pins Kobashi) Misawa/Kobashi vs Kawada/Taue - RWTL95 Kobashi vs Williams - CC96 Full Misawa vs Kawada - CC96 Misawa vs Taue - CC96 Kobashi vs Taue - CC96 Kawada vs Kobashi - CC96 Kawada/Taue vs Kobashi/Patriot - 11/17/96 (Patriot pins Kawada) Misawa/Akiyama/Asako vs Kobashi/Ace/Patriot - 5/24/97 (Patriot pins Misawa) Misawa vs Kobashi - CC97 Misawa/Akiyama vs Kobashi/Ace - 2/20/98 (Akiyama pins Kobashi) Kobashi/Ace/Smith vs Misawa/Akiyama/Kea - 2/27/98 (Kobashi pins Misawa) Misawa vs Kobashi CC98 Kawada vs Kobashi CC98 Kobashi/Akiyama vs Kawada/Omori - 6/3/98 (Akiyama pins Kawada) Kobashi/Akiyama/Shinzaki vs Misawa/Ogawa/Omori - 10/6/98 (Kobashi pins Misawa) Misawa vs Kobashi CC99 Kawada/Taue/Shinzaki vs Kobashi/Akiyama/Shiga - 8/23/99 (Akiyama pins Kawada) Takayama/Omori vs Kobashi/Shiga - 4/12/00 (Takayama pins Kobashi) Kobashi/Taue vs Akiyama/Takayama - 10/13/00 (Takayama pins Taue) Ikeda/Sugiura vs Kanemura/Kuroda - WEW 1/31/03 Iron Man Match Bryan Danielson vs Minoru Suzuki - NJPW 7/20/04 MEXICO Negro Casas vs Fuerza Guerrera - Coliseo Naucalpan 1980 El Satanico vs Mocho Cota 9/26/80 Bob Backlund vs Antonio Inoki 5/1/81 Sangre Chicana vs El Satanico June82 Perro Aguayo vs Tony Salazar 9/17/82 Sangre Chicana vs El Satanico 12/10/82 (Draw, both lose hair) Perro Aguayo vs Negro Navarro 5/27/83 Sangre Chicana vs. Perro Aguayo 7/1/83 Perro Aguayo vs El Texano 7/15/83 Hulk Hogan/Gran Hamada vs El Canek/Perro Aguayo 7/31/83 Perro Aguayo vs Villano III 8/21/83 El Satanico vs La Fiera 9/26/83 Sangre Chicana vs Tony Salazar 8/5/84 Hulk Hogan vs El Canek 9/2/84 Atlantis vs. Talisman 9/21/84 Stan Hansen vs El Canek 9/30/84 Sangre Chicana vs Tony Benetto 3/31/85 Sangre Chicana vs El Faraon 3/7/86 Perro Aguayo vs El Faraon 10/26/86 Satanico vs. Pirata Morgan 12/5/86 Atlantis vs. Hombre Bala 12/5/86 Perro Aguayo vs Sangre Chicana 2/15/87 Sangre Chicana vs Ultraman 87 Sangre Chicana vs La Fiera Nov87 Perro Aguayo vs vs Babe Face 12/6/87 Perro Aguayo vs vs Sangre Chicana 12/20/87 Perro Aguayo vs Ultraman 7/16/88 Gran Cochisse vs. Blue Panther 9/16/88 Satanico vs. Texano 9/16/88 Perro Aguayo vs vs Sangre Chicana 1/27/89 Haku/Dos Caras/Villano III vs Canek/El Satanico/Pirata Morgan 11/20/92 Dr Wagner vs Pierroth Jr. 4/2/93 Mocho Cota vs Ultimo Dragon 11/19/93 Mano Negra vs Bestia Salvaje 12/3/93 Mocho Cota vs Kato Kung Lee 12/10/93 Emilio Charles Jr. vs La Fiera 4/15/94 Javier Cruz vs. Americo Rocca 10/14/94 Bestia Salvaje vs. Hector Garza 12/1/95 Star of Death Cage Match 12/9/95 Atlantis vs Dr Wagner 12/17/95 Silver King vs La Fiera 3/21/97 Emilio Charles Jr. vs. El Satanico 3/20/98

Start at 2:07 - Hogan-Hart Kinda crazy if that's where the catch phrase stems from.

Once he got the TV strap, I thought RVD's 10-15 minute matches were great to watch (especially 1st Lynn on TV, 1st Storm on TV) but the longer stuff was a drag. I don't remember reading it explained why but I do know he is one of the guys people shit on. I can see not acknowledging his ability to innovate a ton of great mid-level-creative offense combined with risking himself for the occasional crazy spot, being a natural cool and cocky that complimented the moves to make his character really believable as a top guy, and actually be the most popular wrestler in the company and then the most popular among those that moved on to either WWF or WCW, but I thought he also actually did a lot of little things that people usually gravitate to pointing out on here. He threw mainly forearms and jabs as opposed to bullshit chops and haymakers, he would strike back if there felt like there was too much time to act unconscious between the exectution of a spot and the opponent setting him up for it, and he'd play to the crowd instead of just having blatant tunnel vision and hitting move after move. Those little things combined with all the other shit mentioned before it made for a good watch. EDIT - And I just realized this was a Sabu thread, who I feel real similar about. Anyone want to respond to the RVD stuff, it'll be in ECW memories. (Points to Sky and leaves)

Was searching out some Vader tags and had no idea until yesterday that Vader worked Flair at a COTC a month or so before Starrcade 93. Always thought that SC93 was built up to be their first encounter and added to its luster.

One of my favorite forgotten moments when I was going through 95-98 TV was on RAW in August where there's a Canadian Stampede 10-Man Tag rematch tease that felt big time with a hot Texas crowd. The Harts were in the ring and Austin is on the ramp with his music blaring the entire time as one-by-one comes out Shamrock, Patriot making his debut, Sid making his first appearance in a month and what would ultimately be his last time on TV in WWF, and lastly Michaels who had also been out since just after King of the Ring.

Both are clipped but RVD-Snow and Sabu-Snow from Feb/March have some wickid visuals and tell the story of the TV title feud that led up to the Wrestlepalooza98 time limit draw, their first match again since two years prior. Give more thoughts tomorrow.

Nitro 10-4-99 has what might be Flair and Hogan's only time as a tag team? Taking on Sting and Luger.

For WTF value, Bret Hart vs. Terry Funk from Thunder 1-6-00 in a No DQ match. Bret gets dumped on his head by Funk when he sticks him in a shopping cart and flips it over. Jarrett attacks Funk with a baseball bat during one of the many played-out NWO run ins and then tosses it away when he's done with it, only for the butt end of it to unexpectedly ding Bret in the face while he's lying on the mat. The show ends with Nash bombing Funk off the stage. Watching this after the fact, I just remember thinking these two guys don't deserve this.