Bix

Also, Flair not knowing what "cost effective" means is kinda funny.

Here's something I've never understood: Why was TNN/Spike so against "WCW" Saturday Nitro taking the Saturday night slot that ended up going to WWF Excess, killing the separate WCW brand in the process? I know the old "they refused to have any non-WWF branded shows" story but it doesn't really make any sense. The plan was for WWF guys (including The Rock to make sure they did well, IIRC) to be drafted into WCW since "WCW" with the contracts WWE took over and felt were reasonable buyouts didn't have enough wrestlers for a full roster. Everyone would have known that it was really a WWF show and it would likely have done far better ratings than a two hour recap/magazine show (which almost always did under 1.0). It would have been a WWF-produced show with WWF wrestlers airing WWF network ads.

Maybe, but that happened before the multiple times Vince said he'd take Savage back before everything changed.

I always heard the story as being that Garvin kept the boat because neither he nor Fuller exposed the business in court.

WWE took over the contracts of just about everyone from WCW who came in for the Invasion angle. The only buyouts were Booker T and Bagwell, I think. Not sure if the associated costs include the ads they promised to buy on Turner networks for several years or if that was just accounted for under regular ad buy

That too.

What's "well under"?

Settle down Prince Valiant. I've just had a distaste for the guy since his freakout over using his message board posts as news sources when relevant.

I don't remember hearing before that they had itemized the deal like that. Was TBS considering holding onto the tape library?

Because this belongs here and not in the RIP thread... Apparently, Oliver Copp has posted this at the F4W board: "Have a go at Steph"? "Everybody else did"? I had no idea Oliver hated women so much. Anyway, if this is what "Oliver knows," then way did Dave act like that was the key to the Stephanie story being true if he's using her alleged promiscuity to say it's NOT why Vince didn't want Savage back and was weirdly personal about it? Also, it's not the first time I've heard someone make the "Stephanie was a slut in college in Boston" claim (someone else who publicly reported something about another female wrestling personality being considered promiscuous but told me this privately) but I never really took that person at face value, or the claim being relevant to anything if it actually was true.

Where is the $2.5m figure from? I've heard that a lot.

Is $4.3m the official number for the assets, the total for the assets plus ads on TNT and TBS, or a different figure? But yes, anything in the WCW range is worthy of this thread.

http://www.cagesideseats.com/2011/5/25/219...-macho-man-more

Quinones, not Jovica.

I missed the byline but I thought there was a reference to "Bryan" from the writer. Must've been wrong. Still..

IIRC Sweeney might have written a read between the lines post along those lines while manic. Not sure if I've seen any other non-DOI stuff saying that. EDIT: rovert beat me to it while I left the editor open.

Dave would've said she was injured if she wasn't out from a pregnancy. Just saying "at least 9 months" was a read between the lines line.

WWE writing out a wrestler who got pregnant a month into her monster buildup (before working she ever worked a match) by making fun of her emotional problems in an angle where she has a realistic panic attack is so ridiculous that it's a work of art.

Are all Wall Street analysts this dumb?

It's not a good sign when buying ROH sends Sinclair's stock rolling downhill, is it?

Yes rovert, please explain that thing.

You gotta admit: you do have a grumpy old man aspect about you. Not as much as John!

People who think the ROH expansion will work are the new most annoying people to argue with about wrestling.

There's someone else you guys know who's about my age where it'll surprise you but I won't say who...

First PC in '97, started trading tapes a year later when I got a 2nd VCR for my Jr. high graduation.