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I thought Toyota's was 2x30, as in she went through the roster twice. But looking it up, it was 1x30. Of course that does match what the Next women did, and it's not like they had to face Aja, Hotta and Kyoko.

Jokes aside, he's been with his wife for well over a decade, and has kids. It's hard to imagine him not sharing an interest with one or all of them in some fictional non-wrestling television. If there was one really great feature about Dave in the time I spent around him it was the he really enjoyed sharing things with people.

He watches Raw.

Dave's own references are rarely hip or current, other than MMA and Wrestling references. Even with wrestling he'll toss out references to things of the past all the time. When trying to get across how over someone is, the standard comp to being monstrously over is Austin or Rock. 1999 was a while ago: "Believe", "Baby One More Time", "Livin' la Vida Loca", "Genie in a Bottle" and "Smooth" were the big singles of the year. That's a long damn time ago. Maybe on the podcast he tosses out lots of hip references. Does Dave toss out a lot of Empire or Big Bang Theory references on the podcast, or MCU riffs, or Mad Men / Game of Thrones / Walking Dead riffs?

If I were the person in the business who dropped the Lee Harvey Oswald reference, and someone else in the business passed along that Dave was critical of it, I would drop a John Wilkes Booth reference on the next show just to fuck with him.

So they're going on about this being the first iron man's match with women: http://jezebel.com/little-girls-and-iron-women-nxt-takeover-makes-womens-1735525052 I assume other women have done this in the past, be it in Japan or in an indy fed. Toyota had the Toyota vs AJW iron match where she took on the entire AJW roster, which went 60:00 if I recall. Does anyone know of any non-tag iron man matches with women?

I never had a bug up my ass about the comments as much as Dave did. There were times when Heenan made a reference that was "WTF"? But I also grew up listening to Vince Scully and Chick Hearn reference old time stuff, especially past players of the Dodgers and Lakers. History is okay.

Meltzer spent most of the 90s complaining about Heenan dropping *dated* references in WCW.

Performers have been doing amazing shit on coke and other mind altering substances for a century. One can quibble whether Rumors is a great album or the Beatles output was great or Bob Dylan's 60s output was great, or this actor or that directors work in a specific movie was great like DeNiro and Marty's work between Mean Streets-Taxi Driver-Raging Bull or various Peter O'Toole performances, but... All of us are 100% certain to have something that we love quite a bit that was created / performed while higher than a kite or more stoned out of its mind than a rock quarry or dunk as a fucking skunk. Shit that looks pretty damn lucid, in fact. More than that, we're all big enough non-naive boys to know that at this point. No one should be surprised.

From 2007 to the present, setting aside the old times / historical candidates: Lucha 2009 Konnan 2013 Dr. Wagner 2013 Atlantis Puroresu 2009 Masa Saito 2013 Kensuke Sasaki 2013 Hiroshi Tanahashi U-S-A! 2007 The Rock 2009 The Midnight Express 2010 Chris Jericho 2010 Rey Mysterio, Jr. 2012 John Cena 2014 The Rock 'n' Roll Express Dead Men 2011 Steve Williams Lucha has done okay. Especially considering they haven't had a "current" candidate like Rock, Jericho, Mysterio, Cena and Tanahashi that large chunks of the voters end up thinking are dunker candidates.

I would've thought it's difficult for any Mexico guy to have the body of work on tape that Japanese and American guys do just due to the availability of footage issue. There's a 38 disc El Hijo Del Santo set with 200+ matches where the person who put it together said he had to leave another 100 matches on the cutting room floor due to space. It also doesn't include anything from the last 8 years, or anything new that was discovered in the past 8 years. That's a pretty good body of work. As Jose says, it depends on when the wrestler worked. Guys who did a lot of work in the 90s have a lot of matches available. The 80s and 70s candidates much less. But this is similar to US candidates. We don't have a lot of Jack Brisco. A chunk of what we have for him is from Japan.

Kal Luv is so old at this point it's a cliche, a bit like Fujiwara Luv, Lawler Luv and Backlund Luv. In fact, my pointing to that interview is a cliche at this point: "Don is clearly one of Kal's favorites and he digs interviewing him. Don has a great buzz going on, and is having a hell of a good time." -2011 http://prowrestlingonly.com/index.php?/topic/14127-tony-schiavone-and-early-90s-wcw-announcing/?p=5475983 Kal has long been a barrel of fun for some of us. Here's a departed good friend of a lot of us, Iron Chad: God... that reminds me how much I miss Chad. I can't remember which was my favorite Creepy Kal rif: Kal was just fucking solid gold.

Kal is a frighteningly creepy interviewer. Pure entertainment. Kal interviewing Muraco was the best. He loved Don, and would just beam at him while Don tried to collect his coked out thoughts. Pure magic.

Best bad announcing team of all time. Just a joy to listen too, even more so the wackier they got. "He hit him THERE!!!!!" -Kal [few minutes later] "He hit him There AGAIN!!!!!" -Kal

Oh yeah, Ross was almost unbearable in UWF. The story of Rosss being that all-time greatest announcer ever really derives from WWE history again. He could be great. He could be downright annoying and grating too at points. He had the rep building before he went to the WWF: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wrestling_Observer_Newsletter_awards#Best_Television_Announcer That's without winning in 1986-87 in the UWF when people (at the time) thought he was pretty good.

Oh, I don't know if it's lost it's fun. Plenty of people are having fun watching stuff. Hoback and I had a great time recently watching stuff that either (i) would haven been extremely hard to get in the 90s, or (ii) just wasn't in circulation at that point. I had it "easy" in the late 80s and 90s getting the weekly puroresu shows: Japanese video store. That wasn't an available path for most hardcore fans in the US. Living in LA, I also had an easy path to Lucha television: it was broadcast on my TV. On the flip side, commercial tapes were tough: a limited number of collectors got them, and the pricing was high. I wouldn't say it was insanely unreasonable: $20 for a tape wasn't out of line with what movies tapes were going for. But like getting movies, it also meant you were selective in what you got unless you were really rolling in the cash. The first big change was the expansion of the "trading" aspect of collecting, probably in the second half of the 90s. I have this, you have that, let's work out a trade. the big collectors in the 80s and early 90s might do that among themselves, or their suppliers of certain material. But the typical consumer wasn't. Changed in the late 90s. A number of folks here built up collections that way. Then of course the digital era, both in DVD and downloading, then in stuff simply being up on video sites. It's not been bad. Lots of stuff out there if one wants to look.

Kids had it easy in 2003. It was hard back in the 80s and early 90s.

There were 13 candidates on the Lucha ballot. That isn't that many candidates. Hell, I voted for more than half of those 13. In turn, there are 12 people on the puroresu ballot, not a one that I'm overly thrilled with as a candidate. The number of candidates isn't a problem.

I don't find that idea out of the realm of possibility. I've seen a few pretty bad ballots including a professional writer voting for a team that isn't even eligible. That would be an issue with the quality of voter, not with there being too many names on the ballot.

Who cares if the ballot is cluttered. Are ballots being handed out to people too stupid to read through 50 names in a category and make a decision? How many matches do people watch in a year to come up with 3 Match of the Year votes? Back when I voted in the year end awards, my number was closer to four digits than two digits. Unlike the HOF Ballot where Dave is nice enough to list all the candidates so that you can look at it in a few seconds, with the years end awards I'd have to try to remember if there was anything back in the prior December that warranted consideration. As far as specifically sifting through a long list of HOF candidates, I sifted through the longest list ever. It wasn't hard, nor was it a chore. It was perfectly fun. There were some mistakes in terms of inclusion and in exclusion, but the number of candidates on the "list" had nothing to do with those mistakes. Selector error. Which has happened in the years since then with smaller lists of candidates, and a considerably more voters.

The removal for anything other than falling under 5% blows. Don't really know why Dave thought it would be a good idea.

It does is one is projecting onto the performance, rather than being realistic about it.

People know what it was all about: Choshu left, creating an opportunity for Tenryu to stop being Jumbo's partner and go out on his own. Baba tried an angle, but turn is a bit problematic word since the fans didn't exactly go heel on Tenryu.