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I don't know if anyone else has heard about it/mentioned it elsewhere, but the annual Bryan and Vinnie Christmas show was quite a thing. Nearly two hours in, both are hammered (considering Bryan's size it probably only took 2 beers) and he says to Vinnie "ask me anything you want, and I'll answer truthfully". Vinnie blurts out "Is she shaved?" referring to Bryan's wife, and Bryan seemed to pause for a moment before mentioning he spends a lot on laser treatments. There seems to be some debate on how intoxicated they really were; and clearly Bryan didn't edit anything out when it was uploaded, so there may be some working going on. Still, Mrs. Bryan's vag was not something I was expecting to be a topic of discussion. If it wasn't "part of the show" I have a feeling the jiu-jitsu classes they teach may have been pretty awkward.

I always had the impression it was done like that because they were probably trying to talk him into actually jobbing the title up until moments before Vince made the announcement most likely.

That really shouldn't be a surprise, it's the WWE self fulfilling prophecy in action. Book someone like a chump, decide to start giving them a serious push, they cause a ratings drop (because who wants to see guys booked like chumps in the main event) and that just seals them with the "oh well, can't draw" stamp.

Yeah, I couldn't tell if by putting his hand over Cena's nose/mouth if he was trying to murder him or rape him. Also Punk's been tweeting since the PPV how this is the change he's been talking about and posted a pic of all the current WWE champions (himself, Bryan, Ryder, Cody, Air Boom, and Beth) saying this is what he was trying to do in the WWE.

Actually, I think he's pretty accurately rated. He certainly had good matches, but I've never seen anything to suggest they should have been pushing him any further than he was.

I take that as Bryan's way of admitting he was wrong without admitting he was wrong? John Pretty much the way I read it. He did a "Todd was right" post that came across like a smarmy heel not believing what he was saying, so I guess the gimmick now is any time he gets completely clowned in a debate he's just werkin'. Also those daily trivia blurbs were all worth it for the payoff of a young Bob Barnett and VKM blowing up toilets.

I wonder what the odds are the SK has even seen the match, or did someone just tell him it was the greatest thing ever and he ran with it?

I actually went to the board to see what the fallout was, the thread for the show had 3 and a half pages of EVERYONE (even other WO.com folks like Alan4L and Mike) saying Bryan was wrong, the only "bryan was right" post was from Bryan himself that he reply-as-quoted several times. Then on page 4 he was all "6 years later I still can get a reaction" so evidently it was all just his master plan to show he can werk the boys instead of him being a stubborn shit. Of course, there's only like 6 years of recorded history in the archives that suggest otherwise.

Good Lord, the latest Bryan show with Todd Martin is the most Bryan-est show ever. Todd makes the point that in real sports sometimes the worst team beats the best team, but that doesn't mean the lesser team takes the better team's spot (in the context of explaining why when main eventers have to face JTTS's to get a shot at the title in pro wrestling, the JTTS guy wouldn't get a shot if he were to theoretically win the match). Bryan's normally embarrassing lack of any knowledge or understanding of real sports makes him look like a complete tool arguing things like NBA/NFL teams have ranking (they don't) and that guys who win upsets in MMA get title matches if the guy they upset was in line for a shot (sometimes they do but not usually). He tries to play the card that MMA books solely on marketability of fighters which Todd surprisingly shoots down as a quote-unquote "as a bullshit Dave line". Bryan just keeps coming up with more and more impossible hypothetical scenarios that supposedly back up his argument, and Todd shoots down every one, and Bryan just gets more obnoxious in his stubbornness to the point of willful ignorance. It's actually perversely entertaining watching a guy who's supposed to be one of the top voices in his field sounding like the exact same kind of obstinate troll he rages about on the boards.

I might be Captain Late Pass on this, but is thecubsfan = Joe Gagne from joevstheworld and the wrestling video game reviews on YouTube? I've recently become a fan of the game reviews and noticed when cubs calls in to Bryan's bi-weekly lucha shows the voices sound sort of familiar. Can't tell 100% though since it's telephone quality audio compared to much clearer YouTube audio.

It seemed to come from his amazement that a Japanese guy and someone from the Southern US were capable of any means of communication.

I remember the Hirohito idea, but I thought the billed towns thing was due to Vince having another one of his quirks where he decided babyfaces wouldn't be billed from Canada anymore.

This is all true, but if there's anyone in the history of wrestling who had a right to say "fuck this" it would be Kevin post 1986.

I get the feeling some people seem to be under the impression Dave invented the "WWE/Vince changes their minds a lot" meme as a cover for when he's wrong about WWE stuff. That doesn't seem entirely fair when there is tons of evidence supporting shows get rewritten several times and plans change at the drop of a hat.

I guess the real question would be are negotiations that delicate or is Jericho trying to work the boys and/or Dave?

The odd thing is that they were pretty intent on Rock-Cena being for the title (Cena mentioned it again on RAW last night), and apparently that's no longer the plan per this news?

I wonder if anyone ever asked Bryan if he seriously would have gave two shits about World of Hurt if Lance wasn't a regular guest on his show. I mean, this is the same guy who makes it sound like it's a huge fucking imposition on his time to watch Smackdown every week (despite the fact he usually ends up liking the show). The idea that he wants us to believe he would have willingly watch a show full of geeks learning how to wrestle is just hilarious.

I don't know if I want to know what 4chan murder pics would be like.

Also, to keep things topical, both Dave and Bryan are available as downloadable additions to the new WWE 12 game in the Community Creations section (assuming you can log in, there's been server issues). The creator included the cowboy hat for Bryan and both 80s mullet version and current version for Dave.

Maybe it's the fact that Big Sexy is still around to remind me, but happy face Punk reminds me so much of Smilin' Babyface Diesel it's scary. I thought WWE was over their fetish of making someone champ and then taking away everything that made them get to that level.

For the record, I wasn't accusing Dave of definitely using. I thought it was a legit question based on both his time spent around bodybuilders and pro wrestling, which both are known for their cavalier attitudes toward usage at times. It's also not unheard of for guys who claim to be clean to turn out not to be. It's not like I was wondering if he ever raped puppies, at the very least there's enough circumstantial evidence for it to be something worth pondering. For a time there he looked like 1992 Scott Steiner, so to suggest he's never given any reason to suspect otherwise is kind of silly. Or maybe it's because I just don't trust anyone who's ever willingly worn Zubaz pants. But whatever, if he says he's clean, he's clean. Even if he was doing something at one point he isn't now since he's not jacked up as he used to be. Either way, it's not anything worth ruffling feathers over.

It was pre-wellness policy Joking aside, I often wonder if Dave ever dabbled in any pharmaceuticals when he was hanging and banging with his workout bros back in the day. It seems pretty clear from the stories he's told that they at the very least educated him on steroids, and obviously a lot of photos of him in the 80s-early 90s show him being pretty jacked.

Ironically. bitching about your job on Twitter is the kind of thing Dave berates WWE employees over. Following the Meltzer Rule of Equivalency, that means WO.com = pro wrestling.

Dave and Bryan spent a segment on the 11/15 show doing a jokey wink-wink commentary on Cody Rhodes coming back from the European tour with a new physique. It was clear what they were referencing, and I guess I get the "well if the guys doing it don't care, then fuck it" philosophy, but isn't that the kind of stuff people like Dave and Bryan always chastise wrestling people for? Something about them doing "GEE, CODY MUST HAVE GOT A LOT OF GYM TIME IN EUROPE, YUK YUK YUK" seemed almost offensive considering all the hand wringing that goes on when another drug related death happens.

My favorite fan related encounter has to be that poor guy Ric Flair clowned on World Championship Wrestling that ended up making it on at least one WWE DVD of his as an extra. Not only does he have the guy come down from the Techwood Dr bleachers to show off his unfortunate 80s attire, he trolls the guy into thinking he's going to meet Dark Journey before the famous "YOU CAN'T BECAUSE SHE'S TULLY BLANCHARD'S". Also CM Punk telling a fan "YOU HAVE A VAAAAAAAAGINA" from this year was pretty top notch.