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That's exactly what it reminded me of, Scott Hall walking out on Nitro. I was amazed WWE was able to pull this off so brilliantly, when Matt started yelling at "Adam" and seeing the arena security take him out like some fan jumping the railing, I was marking out at how awesome it all was. More importantly the crowd was going bananas the whole time. Funny how that works, instead of coming up with some stupid angle or gimmick they put two guys who (at least at one time) hated each other for real together. That's as basic as wrestling gets: I hate you, now I'm going to kick your ass. That's all it fuckin' takes to rake in the money.

Wasn't one of the claims floating around that the writers felt HHH was overexposed? As if anyone in the company would have the balls to say that out loud, let alone act on it.

Did anyone find out what happened to make HHH decide to take the summer off? At first I thought maybe he just went into hiding to grow that stupid Lemmy-beard out.

Odd.

I'm talking about the videos of terrorists sawing people's heads off that were released over the internet. Parts of the Hassan angle were CLEARLY based off those videos. Anyone who saw those videos would immediately be offended at the angle.

Which is my point with the angle last night. I didn't have a problem with it until they started invoking images of terror videos and having Cole and Tazz call Davari a martyr for the cause. It was an unnecessary level of realism.

Sass's logic is the same used to say Austin wasn't really being crucified, it was a SYMBOL, not a cross, you know. It just happened to look very crosslike and meant to invoke the idea of someone being crucified, but since they never called it a cross that means the people who thought such were just being oversensitive. They plainly meant to invoke images of real people being killed, which I think pushes it above rape. We read taping reports, where how bad something is reported is based on the guy filing the report. I didn't make any posts on it until I saw it for myself. Maybe you finalize your opinons on secondhand info, but I don't.

That's ridiculous. Hassan's whole gimmick is that he's unfairly treated because he's Arab-American and everyone thinks he's a terrorist. HHH fucking a mannequin and Chavo becoming Whitey weren't nearly as offensive as this since they weren't meant to invoke images of real people being killed by terrorists. Like CJ said on AIM last night, I hope no one who's lost family members to terrorism are wrestling fans.

Is it 1986 again and no one told me?

Man, if he does get fired, imagine the shoot interview that'll come from it.

After I had time to think about it, I hope WWE does fire Corny so he can go to a place like ROH or TNA that would not shit on every idea he comes up with or undo all the work he does to get people over.

Melz has a hard-on for "real" fighters, I'd be willing to bet thats why Kurt Angle got in, since he has the "real cred". He's almost as bad as Vince when it comes to wanting to be seen as someone legit rather than a rasslin' guy.

Slapping the guy crossed the line, and I guess considering Corny's past he's probably fucked for sure now, but if thats the case there should be something metered out for the guy laughing too. Hell, if someone did that in WWE, they'd probably be greeted with more than a slap from a hyperactive 50+ year old booker. I'm not saying it's right, but in the Kangaroo Court that wrestling operates in, it's been well established that physical assault is acceptible payment for disrespecting the business.

Wrestlers shouldn't be out there laughing during serious angles either, promoters shouldn't have do worry about guys in a developmental league not taking shit seriously.

Come on, you justified JBL wailing the shit out of Meanie and drawing blood, but Corny slapping someone for potentally fucking up an angle is a fireable offense? The WWE needs more people like Corny, they don't need to be firing people like him over piddly shit.

That's hilarious, and I don't even know why...

If you watch the beheading videos, it's unmistakeable. I guess if you haven't seen them it might just look like another dumb but inoffensive WWE angle like millions before, but the fact that they took the time to re-enact that just sickened me.

It actually was just the usual WWE kind of stupid, there was just something about the masked guys making like the beheading videos just creeped me out like nothing WWE's done before. Plus having the annoucers talk about Davari being a "martyr for the cause" making it clear what they were trying to reference was just way out of bounds for a wrestling angle. People are trying to say it wasn't as offensive as Sgt Slaughter as an Iraqi, but Slaughter wasn't re-enacting Saddam's rape rooms in the middle of the ring.

Earlier in the show, Teddy Long made a match between Taker and Davari, and Hassan assured his manager that he'd "be rewarded". The match itself was a squash, but afterwards Hassan dropped to his knees in a prayer pose outside the ring and 5 guys with camo pants, black shirts, and black ski masks hit the ring from all sides and beat up Taker. One of the masked men choked out Taker with some sort of piano wire until his face was purple and he was doing that eyes-rolling-back thing he does. Hassan then got in the ring and the five masked guys got on their knees in a semi-circle looking very similar to those terrorist beheading videos while Hassan put taker in the Camel Clutch. *THEN* the masked men carried Davari (who was still was out cold selling the Tombstone) above their heads while the annoucers talked about him being a "martyr for the cause" and "getting his reward for his sacrifice" which added a layer of creepiness to it.

To top it off, I made the mistake of reading TSM's thread on it only to see the retards there say "if it wasn't for the attack today, it wouldn't have been a big deal". Right, having guys re-enact beheading videos was only offensive because there happened to be an attack today. Fucking idiots.

So.......who saw it? Personally I think it was one of the most legit offensive things WWE has done. Having masked men obviously supposed to remind people of terrorists simulate a garrotting/beheading on a popular icon is just beyond the fucking pale for me. The fact that there was a terrorist attack the day it aired is just icing on the cake. Seeing five men in masks on their knees the same as in videos where people got their fucking heads sawed off made me seriously not want to watch WWE programming anymore. The fact that no one had the balls to speak up and say maybe terrorists are one line wrestling shouldn't cross is an embarrassment to the business.

Its not even all about wrestling, John Leyfield the person comes across as a douche no matter what. The bullying is just a part of it.

I like JBL's character too, I just think that more often than not he's an unprofessional douche.

Yeah, it's JBL the person who stiffs people for years-old comments and hogties people in the shower. Hell, most people I've seen like JBL's character (admitting his JR Ewing/Ted DiBiase mix is a good heel gimmick).