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So much "history of WWF". So little of who Vince is or is not.

Back to "Who killed WCW?" , I mostly concur with TK and dawho. It's my POV that corporate decisions had way more to do with the company having the plug pulled than anything creative (even under Russo). I think some others may be looking at it through a "wrestling lens". I listened to Cornette's review of episode 4, and it was borderline embarrassing how unable he was to see the forest for the trees. The Disney tapings were a great idea not only from a financial perspective but it also gave WCW the chance to co-brand with Disney. House shows were hemorrhaging and it's not like the syndicated shows were being taped at some sort of hallowed grounds before that. Now, the scheduling... And TNN couldn't have found room for another WWF property ? At the time, WWF had a 2 hour block on Saturday night of velocity and confidential. There's no reason WWF couldn't have put a WCW show in that timeslot if they had been motivated to do so.

I'd learn more towards the business side than the creative, as bad as it got. They had interviews with Turner execs who weren't even in the WCW part of the company and the WCW really dId feel like the unwanted part of the Turner empire.

Haven't seen anything here about the death of WCW miniseries, so apologies if this is in the wrong place. The first 2 episodes were mostly rehash but episode 4 did a really good job of painting a great picture of the corporate meddling and undermining of WCW, and Stu Snyder pretty much admitting the fix was in on WWF's purchase. The only comment I have on episode 3 was that the little woman walked in while I was watching it. She had no idea who Vince Russo was but asked "why does he always sound like he's lying?"

The Kevin line that stuck with me was when he admitted that he had heard Adams stories but was shocked and disgusted hearing them back to back. Kevin seems like a decent guy but either had blinders on or was willfully ignorant of things that were happening around him, including his own family.

I didn't know about the Lapsed Fan podcast, despite the fellas being known around these parts. Their "Dark Side of the Ring" companion podcast showed up in my YT feed and I have to say it's fantastic. Keep doing it guys, you're doing it right. Highest recommendation.

"You don't say no to Jimmy". That episode is worth it for anyone with even a passing interest in hockey or mob types.

Points for a take I've never seen before anyway.

Beg pardon? It's a fictional character. It would be like going after him for a role in one of his movies. Whoever tried would be laughed out of the room.

I really enjoyed this. Obviously, they messed around with the chronology a bit, that's to be expected for pacing. Kudos to the casting director for finding a really good Harley Race and a comically bad Ric Flair. All the main characters did well in their roles and it was nice to see Maura Tierney again, who I hadn't seen for a while. I think the brothers' reunion scene was meant to be Kevin's fantasy as he was looking down at Kerry's body. In Kevin's mind, Kerry was rowing up the river Styx (you even saw him laying out the tip) and was crossing over to be with the rest of the brothers. Agreed on Mike being given more depth than the pro wrestling story usually gives him. That was a nice addition. All in all, a really well done film.

Who spells "pussy" with an "e"?

1998.

Your argument seems to focus more on the creative aspect of the company. I don't know that Vince cares more about that than adding an extra zero to his cash out. If Vince's point of view is that when he dies, the company dies (right or wrong), then it's reasonable to assume that his point of view is that he who dies with the most money wins.

With all due respect, it seems like you're focusing way more on rasslin storylines than billions of dollars.

Was it really an evil plan to get back into full power or just maximize his cash-out?