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Of all the times for the WWE to stick to their guns and resist the urge to swerve the Internet fans. Now we're stuck with this shitpile of a Laurinaitis storyline for God knows how much longer. And a secret plan would've been better. I don't see the point of making Show someone we're supposed to boo after building him up as a sympathetic figure. I didn't order the show, but Punk/Bryan sounds like it's worth going out of my way to check out.
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So I was thinking about what the HOF would look like if it were limited to slam-dunk picks. I mean, if you think about it, a hall of fame should be limited to the best of the best, those whose candidacies speak for themselves. If you have to make a case for someone, he probably doesn't belong. Let's take Yohe's ratings as a starting point. http://wrestlingclassics.com/cgi-bin/.ubbc...ic;f=7;t=000294 Under this system, it would take a minimum score of 7 to be inducted. My initial impression is that he overrated Bob Backlund and Keiji Mutoh and underrated Jerry Lawler, Randy Savage, and the joshi wrestlers (particularly the Crush Gals).
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I've been watching a lot of joshi lately, and I'm increasingly puzzled by the notion that Toyota was that much of an outlier. Granted, she was on the extreme end with the sprintiness, and her execution was sloppier than most. But to me, things like lousy transitions and no regard for long-term selling are far bigger problems, and those were pretty universal among her peers. Personally, I'd rather watch Toyota go-go-go than Kyoko Inoue's dazzling array of camel clutches and surfboards.
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I thought of this thread while watching some 70s All Japan last night. In Baba/Robinson, the gutwrench suplex is treated as a killer move every time it's teased and is never actually landed because Baba fights like his life depends on it every time Robinson goes for it. In Race/Jumbo, the gutwrench suplex is a throwaway spot that gets a one count.
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3
NintendoLogic replied to Loss's topic in Megathread archive
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Considering the bang-up job they did building up Rock/Cena, that's probably for the best.
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3
NintendoLogic replied to Loss's topic in Megathread archive
They needed three announcers and three "Legends" to fill out the Royal Rumble. This has disaster written all over it. -
Think of all the indy guys who do shitty tributes to 90s All Japan. That doesn't mean they aren't marks for the stuff.
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Well, there was the homage to Harley Race's bounty on Ric Flair.
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There's also the separate but related phenomenon of real-life fighters drawing inspiration from pro wrestling. Off the top of my head, you have Muhamamad Ali from Gorgeous George, Chael Sonnen from Superstar Billy Graham, and King Mo from Jerry Lawler.
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Have you seen their 8/9/86 Boston Garden match? The last time I saw it, it blew me away. I'd rate it as a top 20 match in company history, possiibly top 10.
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Maybe he's like Lyndon Johnson and is biding his time and making all the compromises he needs to to get into position to implement his agenda.
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I was rather puzzled by Dave and Bryan saying on the radio show today that Cena had to go back to being happy-go-lucky because of the divorce. Aren't the people most likely to know about the divorce (that is, Internet fans/dirtsheet readers) the ones who hate Cena's goofball act the most?
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[1994-03-20-WWF-Wrestlemania X] Bret Hart vs Owen Hart
NintendoLogic replied to Loss's topic in March 1994
If we're talking strictly 1994 Shawn, then I agree. It took him another year or so to become a complete wrestler. A big part of that was his moveset being more suited for working babyface, but I think his stuff looked more impactful as well. I also agree with the broader point. I very much prefer guys whose main goal is hurting or otherwise defeating their opponent over ones whose main goal is putting on a show. -
Don't be so quick to judge. Raw really was historically shitty.
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3
NintendoLogic replied to Loss's topic in Megathread archive
You mean the one about how everyone in the business without exception is on something? -
Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3
NintendoLogic replied to Loss's topic in Megathread archive
If you want some serious heat, use an ether soaked rag. -
So were the Midnight Rockers. Come to think of it, the R&Rs themselves were derivative of the Fabulous Ones. On that note, look at all the face-painted tag teams that sprung up in response to the Road Warriors (Demolition, Blade Runners, Powers of Pain). Going in a completely different direction, Hikari Fukuoka was largely a Manami Toyota clone.
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Would it be possible to split the singles matches in OJ's primer into title matches and stipulation matches? They're two completely different styles. Also, a question. Are there any notable lucha matches based around targeting a body part? I know the psychology is different in Mexico, but I figured I'd ask.
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I don't think they'll do Brock/Taker. At this point, Taker is too brittle to do more than one match a year, and isn't Brock/Rock penciled in for Mania?
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3
NintendoLogic replied to Loss's topic in Megathread archive
Dave says that either it gets nasty or Cena gets taken to the cleaners. But probably not both. -
Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3
NintendoLogic replied to Loss's topic in Megathread archive
The quote was in the context of Val saying that one of Russo's strengths was having everyone from the top down was involved in a meaningful storyline. Still a ridiculous assertion. It's a 1999 Timeline video, but there's also footage of him talking about the Eddy/Angle match at Wrestlemania XX for some reason. -
I liked this match, but not nearly as much as Loss. One the one hand, just about any match with both Aja Kong and Shinobu Kandori is going to be worthwhile. On that note, I still haven't seen anything that indicates that Bull was better than Aja. But this has the same problems that plague most joshi matches: terrible submission work, crappy transitions, and little or no long-term selling. Beyond that, I couldn't really muster any sympathy for Hokuto due to her being such an unlikable bitch.
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3
NintendoLogic replied to Loss's topic in Megathread archive
Well, Cena's wife has lawyered up. And not just any lawyer, the one who represented Linda Hogan. Yes, Cena has a prenup. But so did Tiger Woods. -
[1994-03-27-AJW-Wrestling Queendom] Manami Toyota vs Plum Mariko
NintendoLogic replied to Loss's topic in March 1994
I've never seen a single Plum Mariko match, but Lorefice said in his Plum obit that she wasn't a strong mat wrestler and got her submissions through athletic counters rather than outmaneuvering opponents on the mat. EDIT: Having seen the submission match, I'd say that's accurate. Plum wasn't a Yoshida-caliber mat worker.- 15 replies