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I regard playing one's role well, like logic and storytelling, as a necessary condition but not a sufficient one. Like, it wouldn't make any sense for The Great Khali to do shooting star presses or space flying tiger drops, but that doesn't mean I want to see what he does instead. There are some roles that I simply have no interest in seeing played. As for the original topic, I think Loss put it best when he said that the key for wrestling wasn't to be realistic but to be plausible. Wrestlers don't occupy the real world, they occupy a world where vertical suplexes and Russian legsweeps are effective maneuvers. So the key for me is stuff that makes sense within the confines of the unrealistic reality of pro wrestling. What I want more than anything else is for wrestlers to act in a way that someone who was trying to win a wrestling match would plausibly act. Things like Ric Flair going up to the top rope just to get thrown off and John Cena's opponent throwing a punch just so he can duck under it and do a Protobomb that are totally contrived really turn me off.
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Damn it, I arrived too late to put my old Nintendo Powers to good use.
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Dean Ambrose's finisher in FCW is an Air Raid Crash, but William Regal called it an Emerald Frosion. If Regal can't keep that shit straight, I don't think the rest of us should sweat it too much.
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When I first saw this, I thought it was really good but clearly inferior to 6/9/95. I began to appreciate it more as I learned more about the context, but I still can't put it in greatest match of all time territory. It took me a while to put my finger on it, but it's mainly two things that don't click for me. First off, the in-ring action is a bit lacking at times. Everything from the Taue neckbreaker on is off the charts, but a lot of the early stuff, like the Akiyama FIP segment, is a bit pedestrian. Second, I wasn't really digging the story it told. Instead of Kawada gaining redemption and continuing his journey to the top, we got Kawada not really holding up his end and needing Taue to bail his ass out repeatedly. Again, it's a great match, but it's not in my AJPW top five.
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Honestly, this felt like overkill to me. It was paced well and never boring, but they didn't do anything here that they couldn't have done in 30 or at most 40 minutes. It felt like they were just killing time the last ten minutes. I had a similar reaction when I saw the 9/30/90 tag match. I guess 90s AJPW time limit draws just don't do it for me. It seems to me that when they didn't have a specific climax they were building to, they tended to meander quite a bit.
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Have you seen his recent stuff? I haven't seen a whole lot of it, but he seems more interesting to me since his heel turn.
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You mean besides Jeff Jarrett having more title reigns than HHH?
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WWE Network finally happening
NintendoLogic replied to flyonthewall2983's topic in Megathread archive
I'd love to watch this just to see if Austin becomes a full-fledged beer snob by the end of the series. No more Steveweisers, only Stevemay and Stevefish Head. -
When CM Punk was doing the whole SES thing, an old lady slapped him at a house show in Knoxville and told him that he wasn't Jesus. Punk responded by saying that he forgave her and genuflecting.
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Are you HashtagDerrick on Youtube? If not, someone is plagiarizing you. I'm going to echo all the love for the match. And I always mark out for the turnbuckle cam.
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I grew up in the 757, and Das Wunderkind hit the nail on the head. Norfolk really is a pigsty. Nobody tells Alex Wright what to do and when to do, least of all the morons in Norfolk.
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The greatest things ever written on wrestling message boards
NintendoLogic replied to Bix's topic in Megathread archive
I'm glad this thread got bumped since I kind of have a bone to pick with the TNA Workrate Reports that talk about the supposed ease with which one can find Korean girls with implants in Orlando. Um, Orlando doesn't have a very large Korean population at all. I think tomk might have confused Orange County, Florida with Orange County, California. -
Here's sort of a mini-recap of the seven-hour iron man match: http://www.socaluncensored.com/board/showthread.php?t=18042 Looks like it was an absolute train wreck, almost like a parody of a bad indy match. And I can't even begin to express what an awful name for a move "Hanoi High-Five" is. Doubly so since as far as I can tell, the guy's gimmick has nothing to do with Vietnam.
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I enjoyed the show, and I never even liked the Muppets that much. The matches were pretty good, and the backstage comedy was a step or two above their usual fare. Sure, it did an awful job at building up to Survivor Series. But it provided me with more entertainment than Chargers-Chiefs probably would have, and that's about as much as I can ask for these days.
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Yeah, I was going to say that the comparison was inapt because Duran Duran mentioned Twitter once in passing and didn't treat it like it was that big a deal. It's not like they stopped the concert after every song and let everyone know that Hungry Like the Wolf was trending.
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If you're trying to argue that talking about trending on Twitter like it means something isn't a reflection of insecurity, you could probably pick a better example than a band that hasn't been mainstream in like 20 years.
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[1995-12-17-WWF-In Your House V] Bret Hart vs Davey Boy Smith
NintendoLogic replied to Loss's topic in December 1995
I also prefer this to the Summerslam match, which I always thought was really overrated. It takes a while to get going, and the finish is kind of out of nowhere, but the middle part is awesome. Come to think of it, did Bret have any pre-Wrestlemania title defenses that ended with anything other than a fluke roll-up or a crappy schmoz finish?- 24 replies
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I think this is the crux of the problem. Before coming to WWE, Rey had been working in the U.S. for about seven years. They didn't just want someone who can wear a mask and move merchandise like Rey does, they wanted someone who could work like him too and would be less of a headache than the demanding and injury prone prima donna that he was replacing. From that perspective, the signing has been a failure. Actually, I think what they've done with Sin Cara is pretty remarkable. They took a midget who doesn't speak English and can't work WWE style and built him up to the point where he was selling boatloads of $75 masks right out the gate, mostly to children who've never heard of Mistico or CMLL. They even managed to stick a completely different guy in the role with most of the audience being none the wiser. When you think about it, isn't this pretty much Vince's vision taken to its logical conclusion? The brand being the driving force with the actual wrestlers being interchangeable cogs?
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It did for me. I went in for the first time knowing that the match had a ton of hype and without any real knowledge of the backstory. I also have a general preference for singles matches over tag matches. After I watched it, my initial reaction was "Holy shit, this might be the greatest match I've ever seen!" Subsequent viewings (and educating myself on the context) have only reinforced that view.
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SD ratings have spiked significantly since Henry won the title. Apparently, they're attributing it internally to SD guys appearing on Raw more.
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Have 6% of former WWE wrestlers gone through their rehab program?
NintendoLogic replied to Bix's topic in Pro Wrestling
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From the Doc bio: Jesus Christ.
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From the latest WON: Wait, what? The only Bret-related stuff I remember in the buildup was Shawn trolling the fans in Montreal with Bret's Titantron.
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Earl Hebner has to be my least favorite referee. After Montreal made him something of a celebrity, he started doing whatever he could to put the focus on himself in matches. By 2001, I found him unbearable. He single-handedly nearly ruined Rock/Austin at Wrestlemania X-7 for me.
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Not that I doubt you, but what's the source for this? If Bret could just refuse to do anything, doesn't that render the "reasonable" part meaningless? Anyway, I was a clueless teenage mark in 1997 (the closest I got to inside information was Cornette's "shoot" rants on Raw), and even I knew that Bret was headed to WCW. So I don't think an announcement would have had much impact.