NintendoLogic

To an extent, yes. But like so many other indy chants, I felt like it went past sincere enjoyment of the action and entered the realm of "Hey everyone, look at us enjoying the match!" narcissism. Now that I think about it, though, it'd be awesome if kids at WWE events started "please don't tap" chants whenever someone put Cena in a submission, if only for the indy nerd rage it would invariably provoke.

Wasn't a fan of them chanting "AR RI GA TO" either or them anouncing him as "Kobashi Kenta". Little too over the top "look at us trying to be hip and act all Japanese when we're not" for me, though i'll fully admit the latter of those 2 things is more just me being nit picky. I felt the same way about the ring announcer weeabooing it up. It seemed less a gesture of respect than him cosplaying announcing a GHC match at the Budokan. I also thought the "please don't tap" chants when Joe had the STF locked in were a bit much. Because it was totally the chanting of 800 neckbeards that willed Kobashi to make the ropes. Good job, fans! With that said, I liked the match. I prefer it to just about anything Kobashi did in NOAH. It was good enough that the dipshit ROH fans didn't ruin it, which is quite a feat. And I don't remember there being too many head drops other than the half-nelson suplex.

You mean like the anonymous RAW GM? Sometimes I think the best option is to just end it and hope no one notices. That shit ruined at least a year of programming. Well, it's like I said earlier in this thread. The anonymous GM was stupid, but if you're going to keep it going for that long, you might as well get something out of it.

Didn't Raven and Al Snow do a few in that vein?

They don't dog it on purpose, with the exception of trying to save the best for the Rumble ---> Mania run. Sure they do. I've lost count of all the storylines they've simply dropped because they didn't feel like coming up with a conclusion.

Here's a crazy thought. You think maybe the WWE just stopped giving a crap because they figure no one will be watching with the NFL starting back up?

Isn't Karen a heel, though?

A fan? Jeff had to get his hookup from a fan? Has he really fallen so low that he couldn't find a mark doctor to service him?

Didn't they say the same thing about Daniel Bryan's release?

Speaking of guys with cowboy gimmicks, I've always been baffled by the praise for JBL's in-ring work. His best straight wrestling match was against Eddy at Judgment Day, and even that wasn't very good. Once he got the belt, all his title defenses were either overbooked messes or smoke-and-mirrors gimmick matches. I liked his I Quit match with Cena, but that's it.

I don't get offended by this stuff often I guess but this one sticks out. Torrie laughing through all of it made it even more creepy and "too real" for some reason I thought that was the reason for it. Torrie was corpsing, so they had to send for the man.

But that's kind of a problem too. Yes, the anonymous GM was dumb as hell, but if you're going to run a storyline for over a year, you might as well have it lead to something. For that matter, why does Teddy Long get to keep his job? It's yet another example of those who try to follow closely being punished by having their intelligence insulted.

So...anybody still want to defend this turkey?

I'm going to add Finlay to my list. He tends to be great at the little things, but he can't put them together to create a match I find compelling. The whole is less than the sum of its parts. Come to think of it, Regal and Benoit are the same way. I guess wrestlers from Commonwealth countries known for technical excellence and stiff strikes don't really do it for me.

By this, I mean wrestlers you think you'd enjoy based on your established preferences but can't really get into. Take me, for example. Based on what I know I like, I thought that Riki Choshu and Shinya Hashimoto would be right up my alley. But their work doesn't do much for me. There are certain elements I really like, but as an overall package, the souffle just doesn't rise. Anyone else?

I think it's high time for a PWO sleaze thread.

I wouldn't classify Hogan and Austin as bullies. True bullies are cowards; they pick on those lower than them on a food chain but back away from even a hint of a fair fight. Say what you want about Hogan and Austin, but they weren't cowards (other than the whole ducking Andre thing, I guess). Their behavior was more akin to Superdickery.

I don't think Watts' homophobia is biblically rooted. After all, this is the same guy who said "Why should I have to hire a fucking fag if I don't like fags?" in his infamous Torch interview. If he changed his views after being born again, it was a lateral movement at best.

1984.

Of course, there's only one proper response to this. http://www.theonion.com/articles/why-do-al...-my-cock,10861/

I think I'd put Tenryu in his fifties over Flair in his forties.

WrestleMania has been either the beginning or middle part for a lot of feuds in recent years too. Backlash was all about tying up loose ends from Wrestlemania, which is why it was usually one of the WWE's better PPVs every year. This is also why having Extreme Rules in April is stupid. Having to shoehorn in some "extreme" stipulation only detracts from the focus on post-WM score-settling.

I was thinking recently about when someone stops selling a leg or whatever and the announcers say something like "How's he even able to stand?" Is it good that they're trying to account for what's happening in the ring or bad that they're drawing attention to a hole in the story? Jingus, you've done some announcing, right? How did you deal with this?

But he has always been against homos. http://prowrestlingonly.com/index.php?show...p;#entry5475215 Also note that the previously mentioned tweet has the tag #GodDontFuckAround. There are no words.

http://wrestling.insidepulse.com/2011/08/2...tling-08-25-11/ Impact is about as low-hanging a fruit as you can get, and SKeith can't even bash it properly. Check out the third comment.