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These outdoor matches are just awesome. Double juice because there must always be double juice. And I mean that in the most positive way possible. Chair shots, biting, chops, low kicks. Brody sells a low blow very nicely. Invader chases Brody off with a chair for what's presumably a double countout before the fans literally carry Invader out on their shoulders like a conquering hero. So weird watching this match for obvious reasons, but it was another fun, fast brawl. With more time to develop this could've been even better, but what we got was a lot of fun. If I sound like a broken record, that's because it applies to most of the disc. But that is a good thing. **3/4

Just an awesome scaffold match. It is so high and rickety, but at least looks wider than normal giving them some room to maneuver. We get blood even up high on a scaffold, and some great teases. They even work in a suplex which on any scaffold, but especially this one, feels like sheer madness. Invader finally takes an insane bump bump into the ring as he basically lands on his feet. Given the limitations this was pretty incredible. Not sure how you could do much more without inviting serious injury. ***1/4

I love Hiram Birthorn Stadium. Such a phenomenal setting for wrestling. Babyfaces entering from the dugout with robes on is some great imagery. It immediately kicks off as a 6-way brawl featuring a great bump from Ron Starr on a kick low. Then its Chicky's turn to bump around for the faces until raking the eyes and we settle into a traditional tag. Barely any heat before Colon is in on a hot tag, and then Invader 1 is in to work on Ron. Chicky throws a nice low blow to cut him off and bring in Abby for the power game and choking. Now the heels are working some awesome, rapid tags. Great spots where Abby stretches #3 over the top rope while setting him up for the Starrs to unload with punches while the ref holds back the babyfaces. Basic, clean babyface & heel psychology. Put that together with selling & violence and you have a great match. The only reason I don't rate this higher is because like most matches on this disc it was rather short. But great fun while it lasted. ***1/2

Still just not a fan of the RPMs. They work a decent southern tag with heat so its far from bad, but they seem like terrible babyfaces that are tough to get behind. Fun finish with the RPMs swapping position leading to a small package. The best part of this is the post-match attack from the heel with spike piledrivers, including one to Wendi Richter. Give me more of that and less of the bell to bell and there is a lot of potential here. **1/2

This was an awesome southern tag and a great change of pace from the blood that's become PR's calling card. The Invaders are a tremendous babyface team and work quick tags so well. I'm a huge fan of teams rapidly tagging in & out for a strategic edge, and we got that here in spades. Heat on Invader 3 builds to #1's hot tag and then he finds himself getting worked over by the Starrs before a finish that protects everyone and serves no one. Add 6-8 minutes and a decent finish it and you've got a great match here. As it is stood out in a great way on the set. ***1/2

Definitely better than the first RPM tag as the big heels are more interesting and their power & size lead to a better dynamic for heat and selling. Fun sandwich splash on Lane. Good win for a babyface team overcoming monster opponents. Nice and lean. **

Didn't really care for this. Quick enough to be inoffensive but they did little to build much heat and the finish looked horrible. At least it was quick. *1/2

Punches, headbutts, forks and blood. These two are at their best together with a frenetic pace, violence and blood. I actually prefer them wildly trading punches and short range attacks with limited weapons to bring on the blood. Abby going after Colon's eyes is just nasty, which is definitely a theme on this disc having already seen Invader/Kamala and the LeDuc barbed wire match. Colon with a nice payback spot as he pulls a fork from his boot and goes to work on Abby. We get a cartwheel because that's crack to these fans, which is a very good thing. Some crazy exaggerated selling on the floor from Abdullah as Colon stays on the attack with punches and slamming him into the table. Ref bump, Colon cover with no ref and eventually Abby steals. I preferred their matches that opened the set and from 6/15/86 to this one but it was still a lot of fun with the blood and was another on this disc that felt like a quick, hot TV match. ***

Colon vs. flannel LeDuc with barbed wire! LeDuc is someone I've read a lot about but never seen in anything significant so looking forward to this. LeDuc smartly comes with with taped fists and wrists to protect himself. He's bumping around for Colon early on and quickly bleeding from his forehead because Puerto Rico. After a low blow, LeDuc starts grinding the wire on Colon's head and we get double juice. In the spot of the match, and maybe the disc or entire set, Bobby Jaggers says says LeDuc probably ties up his girlfriend with barbed wire. Really great intensity from both here along with outstanding camera work filming LeDuc using the wire. Match is almost nothing but punches and wire, but Colon sells everything so well, particularly having his shoulder ripped with the wire. I actually thought they handled the wire to the mouth spot very well. Great visual -- particularly for the live audience -- but it looked like LeDuc was incredibly careful with it. Colon uses a couple low blows to put LeDuc down, then stomps away. LeDuc safely bumping into the wire for Colon's punches. Really fun match. Now attacking the knee and then Figure-Four. LeDuc soon submits. Really good, quick match. Blood, intensity, no wasted action whatsoever. Tops on this disc and contender for #1 overall thus far. ***3/4

I can't get enough of the stadium settings for WWC shows. Just love it. Invader bleeds early from biting, and we settle into Kamala chops & strikes vs. Invader punches. Just a solid, effective big vs. small that's absolutely made by Invader doing a monster juice job. Just bleeding buckets, but oddly it doesn't make its way to the mat for quite some time. His face is a total mess and super gross. Love it! The ref eventually calls for a blood stoppage and doctors check on him as his face looks like the handiwork of Dr. Lecter. Best Kamala match ever? With added time and a hot comeback this might've risen to something great, but it was still an incredibly fun spectacle. **3/4

This is basically a tornado brawl from the start. We then settle into heat on Perez that sets up a Colon hot tag. He comes in on fire with the cartwheel, headbutts and punches. Just a really awesome babyface hot tag. Colon dropkicks both Sheepherders, with one bumping to the floor, then goes to work on the other's leg. Figure-Four but they make the save. A bit more babyface dominance before Perez rolls one up for the win. Solid but enough meat to rise above that. Again this feels like a really good match for TV. Enjoying disc 2 a whole lot more than disc 1. **3/4

Embry already acting like a boss heel before they even lock up. And them more stalling. Literally for many solid minutes. Would want the crowd to be near a riot at this point but that's not the case. Feels very much like a Memphis heel routine transplanted to Puerto Rico for a bigger crowd. After an eye rake Embry takes it to the mat and they somehow manage to quiet a hot crowd that was just loving Chicky vs. Invader #1. Embry is soon bleeding around his hair line, but they soon return to working holds rather than play up the violence. Completely baffling. #3 is now finally punching and kicking the leg to pay off some of the holds, but we're again back to some odd psychology with the babyface picking apart a heel's body part from the start rather than as payback. #3 stays in control almost the entire way until Embry catches him with a punch and piledriver that leave both men down. A couple near falls down the stretch that builds to Invader 3 hitting an AWESOME tope suicida. Embry doesn't beat the count and Invader wins by countout. Great spot, but weak finish even if crowd seems to dig it. I'm apparently very much the low man here but this didn't approach its potential even if they teased it at times. **1/4

Enjoyed the Prime Time show but it seemed they focused on a few specific stories rather than fleshing out regular details about the show and production, which is what I was more interested in. Still an easy listen and little bits like Prichard's insights on Heenan & Monsoon's relationship make this very worthwhile.

We get clips of a Sport Shop segment to set up the match. Had I known then what I know now, high school me would've taken Spanish or Japanese instead of Latin. Looks like we join in progress as Invader is on the floor already bleeding. Another rabid crowd. It feels like I'll be noting that and the blood on just about every match on this set. That is a not a bad thing. Chicky looks like such a trashy, contemptible heel. Nice work from him roughing up Invader at ringside and then mixing in punches around an armbar. Looks like a jump cut. This is really one-sided domination with Invader getting in nothing. Don't mind it though as we've got the heel destroying the fan favorite. Nice to see proper psychology open up disc 2 after some of the strange layouts on disc 1. It eventually builds to an Invader comeback with punches and slaps that look pretty weak, but that's irrelevant to the crowd which is really heating up behind him. He's hopping around like a madman to fire people up. Chicky eventually bails after a fistrop for a countout finish. Quick, simple match with strong psychology and a great crowd. Oh, and blood. The staples of disc 2 if not the territory. Felt like a fun TV match. ***

The tone and judgment are what really got me here. In what world would you want an employee speaking to a client or customer like that? There's no reason he needs to directly engage with people at all, so why go out of your way to do so in this fashion? Presumably he doesn't realize how it comes off but its just horrible. To say nothing of his now shattered trust in the confidence of complete strangers on Twitter. Just so strange.

Case, appreciate the long explanation and additional recs. Much of what you explained is similar to what I've heard from DG fans in the past and can at times even see quite a bit of it myself. Really fascinating to trace the evolution of the roster, and I can certainly see why for those who are invested in the history and day to day there's a lot of depth that would make the promotion more enjoyable and easier to follow. Perhaps that why when I watch a big match (like that 11/1/15 tag) it doesn't rate nearly as high for me as for the diehards, but is nonetheless enjoyable. For whatever reason I've found Yoshino one of the most accessible guys on the roster, particularly in a tag setting. What stands out beyond his incredible speed is how his execution doesn't suffer at all or seem to require any unnatural pauses. Haven't gotten a chance to check out the other matches you highlighted yet, but Kondo/Dragon Kid was a fun and tight little match with a clear dynamic that had some impressive spots by each within their roles. Felt like a really high end TV match, perhaps ***1/2 or so, but definitely merited a bit of a bump for the post-match attack and mask ripping.

Seems like incredibly poor judgment on Foley's part to engage with strangers on this level and believe any of it will remain confidential. To say nothing of the incredibly condescending, scolding parental tone he took with the fan.

Then book her on doing 3 minute squashes. Exclusively. And headline PPVs with it. If, on the other hand, you want to offer up a legitimate challenger, present said legitimate challenger. Simply don't see that person on the roster as of 10/15/16.

Exactly, absolutely nothing's been done to suggest a single other woman on the NXT roster is anywhere near Asuka's level. Its exactly why there isn't much heat around her. She's basically on an island there.

Good man. Hope to check out a couple this weekend.

Done. Hopefully this thread sees some more DG soon. Where's the list at? I try to check out the big matches on big DG shows but am sure I'm missing something by not closely following the product. The pace can get weary at times but there's absolutely room for what they do in my wrestling viewing and the big stuff that doesn't fall too heavily into the comedy are often thrilling.

Agreed, this cracked me up on almost every occasion. The condescension could become overdone and unnecessary, but it was still interesting and the bingo calls were some damn fine comedy.

Boricua, thanks as always for the info. We're definitely talking Bobby Jaggers here after watching a bit more. He sounds like something straight out of a Grand Theft Auto game. Really enjoy them together on commentary. Finishing disc 2 today and will post some specific thoughts on the matches and the set more broadly then. After a slow start I am loving the set now.

1) Who's on English commentary with Hugo Savinovich? This guy is a riot and has the most hilarious heel laugh ever. 2) Why does Invader #1 wear a mask when teaming with #3 but not when working singles?

Finally watched this last night and was reminded again just how incredibly smooth and quick Tamura is on the mat. I'm sure I'd appreciate it more if some of the nuance on the mat came to me more easily, but he's still operating at a ridiculous skill level. I can't rate it much higher because outside of a few big strikes this never felt like much beyond a tremendous exhibition, but can totally see why fans of the style would love it. ***1/2