WingedEagle
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All Japan in the 90s (lets say 92-95) would be my pick for top-flight in ring action. But watching that stuff over and over would get very draining. It may be a cop-out, but I might go with WCW+WWF at the height of the Monday night wars. The chaos of having both shows live and flipping channels back and forth with such different presentations was really something. You had the cruiserweights doing their thing on TNT when it was new to me and completely unlike anything on USA. You had Hogan and the NWO as ultra hot heels, a new Sting that was somehow hotter than ever without doing a damn thing for over a year. The Hart Foundation, Austin, Vince and Rock on the way up. Those were fun times. I've seen better wrestling that took place before and after, but not sure any point was more addictive on a week to week TV basis.
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We'll see what you say after getting through 90s All Japan. Curious if anyone there makes a run for the top!
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I watched Raw on DVR today which allowed me to get through it in roughly 90 minutes or so. Loved Heyman. Cena/Rusev build was interesting. The layout this week would suggest a Rusev win, but I won't believe that until I see it. Bray is always fast forward material, which is much appreciated on tape. Problem is that the main event, and really nothing at this point, feels like Wrestlemania. Maybe a regular PPV, maybe a Summerslam, but not the super bowl. If its what's needed to get Reigns over and move the chain forward, that's great, but not feeling it now. Let's hope for a new leaf after the show.
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The Jim Ross Is A Grouchy Hateful Vile Human Being thread
WingedEagle replied to Loss's topic in Megathread archive
Exactly this. Can't expect anything remotely rational from him, but at some point you might expect Podcast One or certain sponsors (does he have any legitimate ones or are they all wrestling related?) to say enough is enough. -
Too much modern product bashing, not enough old school
WingedEagle replied to JerryvonKramer's topic in Forums Feedback
I just got home from vacation and happened across this thread before diving in elsewhere. Having literally just gotten back, I haven't seen Raw or any related WWE tv or anything about the show other than some tweets I caught Monday night. A couple quick hits: 1. It sounds like the Mania build has just about bottomed unless we start looking back to prior generations . That + Mania prominence / March (as Matt D noted above) + the ease with which this dissatisfaction can be voiced can probably make the whole subject overwhelming. 2. That being said, once Mania is over the same void, if you will, of other topics may very well be present. Dylan suggested JVK start a thread on something. The 90s forums are one of the best things about this place. What about building out something for other decades (without stepping on the toes of the 80s projects)? Whether it be individual forums / threads for Horsemen material, PWO versions of threads on All Japan 80s, WWE 2000s, some framework that gives people a launching point? -
Grimmas, maybe you can start another thread that compiles these top 5 picks?
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This is not insignificant. On most, if not all, nights, this means you're basically watching a different show. Usually better, but completely different.
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Exactly, we'll drive ourselves crazy trying to watch a sizable quantity of everyone hyped. Don't want to lose sight of the forest.
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I actually enjoy Wyatt promos at this point because they're an opportunity to mute the show and check out something in the paper or online, go bs with the wife for a few or otherwise take a break from Raw. Hated it for months but I've now been able to make productive use of them. I'm all in.
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I imagine at the end of the day most people won't have seen enough of everybody to really say they can objectively consider everything and everyone. That's the fun of it, you go with what you've seen and what you like. Enjoy the road there!
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Kid can't accept $5K (bumped up from $2500) offer from Ramon to get into the ring with him again knowing the consequences. Nice slow pacing to this angle, all the more impressive considering who was involved.
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[1993-05-29-WCW-Saturday Night] Flair for the Gold: Sting
WingedEagle replied to Loss's topic in May 1993
Groupie is working on a step up bar, while Flair & Anderson are in jumpsuits. Sting out to talk about Vader. Flair say there are rumors of Sid Vicious coming in, which is surprising since he hasn't debuted. Some kids out with moms and everyone joins in the exercising. Pretty pointless. -
[1993-05-29-SMW-TV] Down and Dirty: Rock & Roll Express and Tammy Fytch
WingedEagle replied to Loss's topic in May 1993
RNR promo talking about Cornette & Bodies when Fytch comes out and offers to manage them, saying they don't know much about business because rock is out and rap is in. They turn her down with some Wayne's World schtick and she walks off. -
Bob looks pretty diesel here without a shirt given his age. Finally getting some money promos in this feud and Bob sounds tough even if the glasses and hat don't help things.
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[1993-05-29-USWA-TV] Jennifer on the Road: Jerry Lawler
WingedEagle replied to Loss's topic in May 1993
Lawler collects Coke memorabilia, and looks like he's wearing scrubs here. He shows her some drawings of himself. Smooth. She seems too old for him even though that seems to be the only point of the segment. -
[1993-05-21-AJPW-Super Power Series] Kenta Kobashi vs Terry Gordy
WingedEagle replied to Loss's topic in May 1993
Love the post-match with the crowd chanting for Kobashi after what I believe is his first singles win over a top tier star. This was also the best Gordy I've seen during these yearbooks. Does anything of his even approach this until you go back to the '88 tag league finals? From the outset the story here was Kobashi taking this not just as an underdog, but as Gordy's equal. Along the way it felt like Kobashi could take this, but I didn't see him hitting a pair of moonsaults, much less winning with one. Really great way to cleanly establish him at a new level. ****1/4 -
I don't blame Jericho. He knows where his bread is buttered, even if he's only coming to the table a few times a year. Why should we expect candor on this topic from someone interested in an income stream from the company?
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I saw his stand up show on Broadway once. Even in his twilight he could still kill a crowd.
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[1993-05-25-ECW-TV] Eddie Gilbert and Tod Gordon / Interview: Terry Funk
WingedEagle replied to Loss's topic in May 1993
Clips of Gilbert complaining that he has a chain match with Funk even though Paul E never signed a contract. Funk promo with a hard sell for the chain match, saying Philly has seen the best and worst of wrestling, and now they'll see the most violent. -
Ramon out for an in-ring interview, saying Kid didn't beat him and he'll give Kid $2500 if he does it again. Hart is out to set up their match at KOTR.
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Doink attacks before the bell, then soils Perfect's towel. Nice legwork by Perfect with a spinning toe hold and posting the knee. The whole Doink character and costume are pretty out there but he really nails the act. Doinks trade places when #1 hits the floor, but #2 immediately takes a Perfectplex for the pin. The pair attack Perfect afterwards before Crush is out for the save. More engaging and interesting than a lot of Perfect's work from this time, but I don't seem to be as big a fan as some others. **3/4
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Such a runaway for feud of the year it isn't even funny. The prematch between these squads with their staredowns is always superb as well. Fujinami got to look like a world beater against Tenryu, albeit briefly, before Tenryu nails Hash from the apron which Hash repays with killer kicks and a DDT. They were all over the place here - Fujinami working submissions, Ishikawa & Tenryu with the big bombs, Hash's stellar strikes. One of my favorite spots was when Hash tagged in you saw on Tenryu's face that he knew some hellacious kicks were coming his way and there was nothing he could do to stop it. Fujinami eventually submits Ishikawa while Hashimoto & Tenryu continue their issue outside. Another excellent that match that continues to build Hashimoto vs. Tenryu as the ultimate conflict in this feud. ***3/4 Other feuds (mainly thinking of the AJPW crew here) exceed the quality of NJPW vs. WAR on a match by match basis, but I don't know that any feud is this much fun.
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WWE or NXT?
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This was a good power match between a couple of big boys that just couldn't get over the hump to great. Vader misses a splash on the floor and goes up for Davey's big delayed vertical suplex. Can't say he didn't come to work on this day, bumping and selling very well. We get an absolutely terrible DQ finish following a chair shot. This would've been better if they shaved off some time and went with any kind of clean finish. ***1/4