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[crowd sourcing] Favourite ever promos
WingedEagle replied to JerryvonKramer's topic in Pro Wrestling
Shame on all of us for "hard times" not appearing until now. I actually had the opportunity to meet Dusty a few months back and asked him about this one. He said he went out there without a script and nothing planned other than to talk about Flair and build Starrcade. He went backstage and said something to the effect of "let me know if there are any tickets left." That Bockwinkel/Heenan promo was also great. Looked like something straight out of SNL with Bockwinkel having trouble trying not to laugh. -
Introducing your Kids to Classic Wrestling
WingedEagle replied to Smack2k's topic in Pro Wrestling Mostly
Probably also important to go with something quick rather than anything epic or that features a long build. Try some of the countdown shows on WWE Network. The production is great, there's not much downtime and enough action that its tough to lose much attention. Maybe see where that takes things? -
PWSS Top 6 Title Changes w/ Tim, Will & Kris
WingedEagle replied to Grimmas's topic in Publications and Podcasts
Really enjoyed listening to this. I'm a sucker for anything that captures great moments like this. I've also been meaning to watch the full Final Conflict package on youtube and this was a great reminder to try and get to it this weekend. One thing that occurred to me listening to this is that unlike sports where your teams may be mired in terrible or mediocre seasons for years on end, we're all on team wrestling and will have a number of moments every year where we can feel a part of the home crowd during something awesome. -
I can't imagine there's any reason for it other than trying to capitalize on a hot news story to grab a little attention. Its also a great use of the network. Highlighting things like this (and not replaying every one of them on tv) will hopefully make it seem like a must for fans.
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[2000-12-23-NOAH-Great Voyage] Kenta Kobashi vs Jun Akiyama
WingedEagle replied to Loss's topic in December 2000
Lots of interesting things here. Akiyama calling back to his neck work against Misawa from earlier in the year. Great suplexes all over the place. Awesome teasing of big moves that this crew pulls off better than anybody because of their history executing and defending them. If you were to write out all of the awesome spots and variety of offense here it would read like one hell of a classic. But the whole here was not as great as the sum of its parts. They'd focus on a body part for a bit and then abandon it. The biggest drag for me was that this went so incredibly long, and there was really no reason for it. Eventually Akiyama keys in on the lariat arm and this is actually sold for a while as the bout picked up some focus. Even the sleeper suplex felt like they hit it perfectly in stride and at a great point for a Kobashi comeback. The finishing stretch was money, with things spilling to the floor, the big moves you expect and those you were trained to watch for from the early NOAH shows like the guillotine. Then we get a Burning Hammer to finally give someone a big win over Akiyama after his early run through the top of the card. I really enjoyed this, but thought if they took out maybe 8-10 minutes and tightened up the strategy you would likely have a MOTYC. That said, we're picking warts on Miss America candidates. Or Miss Japan. ****- 9 replies
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- NOAH
- December 23
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PWSS Top 6 Title Changes w/ Tim, Will & Kris
WingedEagle replied to Grimmas's topic in Publications and Podcasts
About halfway through and really enjoying this. Conversation just breezes by. This was the first I heard that Garvin was scheduled for Flair at Starrcade '86 until the Magnum injury. Has that been widely reported or written about elsewhere? -
Basically my thoughts on this as well. The bulk is right in that **** range but beginning with the extended Nagata/Kawada sequence through the finish this all out glory with hate, heeling from Fuchi and great work of submissions without ever devolving into stalling. Definitely one I'll want to rewatch at the end to confirm its overall ranking. ****1/2
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- NJPW
- December 14
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Right, I don't think it would matter if they had Sam Muchnick rise from the grave and run Raw from the Chase with the audience all classed up. Its rasslin. The end.
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Does that really have to do with PG or not? Sounds like more of a question of demographics and the audience's income rather than an issue with content.
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http://www.tvguide.com/news/why-well-never-stop-rooting-for-daniel-bryan-wrestlemania/
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Love some interpromotional juniors. Makabe didn't get much ring time here but made the most of it as the Goliath of the match. Loved the NJPW team working quick tags while the Osaka crew would look for a numbers edge and then working submissions late. Good stuff throughout here, but they weren't about to blow things out given the main event. Not enough Makabe, but would've liked to see more matches between these squads. ***1/4
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- NJPW
- December 14
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[2000-11-26-BattlARTS] Yuki Ishikawa vs Kazunari Murakami
WingedEagle replied to Loss's topic in November 2000
Goddamn these guys mean business, getting in each other's faces right away. Murakami looks ready to commit murder. I've yet to see a match where I don't love what he brings to the table. Granted, my exposure to him is limited, but thus far I like it all. There's tight leg work, striking that results in a bloody mouth and my favorite spot of the match which saw Murakami deliver this *awesome* stabbing kick over the barricade. The brawling through the crowd is so wild and violent. Just love it. Only complaint is it felt so short. But really, it may have lost something going much longer anyways. ***3/4- 10 replies
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- November 26
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There were so many great, near classic moments in this. The high kick sending Tenryu off the apron to the floor. Tenryu pulling a Gran Torino and telling Kawada to get off his lawn with a a KO punch that puts Kawada down and sets up the finish. Before that, for whatever reason, perhaps expectations of seeing these two collide it never seemed to click as the classic you want. Which just means it was great rather than a MOTYC. They probably had to put Tenryu over decisively here as if you crown Kawada at this point you really don't have a credible challenger. At least this way you can pencil him in that slot, though I don't know if Muto & co. were in the fold yet. Really great action here, but somehow as good as it was you're left thinking it could've been more. ****
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Posted it in the Current WWE thread, but I really like what they did last night. It should heat up Reigns as either a babyface or heel and is at worst a smart way of trying to pass him some of Bryan's momentum while also featuring Bryan. You can team them up leading into or even coming out of Fast Lane, and now have the ability to book Reigns in segments and matches without worrying that people will crap on it because its not Bryan. I don't know if it'll work but it makes a ton of sense.
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Not sure if I'm in the minority here, but I really enjoyed Raw and what they set up for Fast Lane and Mania. We got a great Bryan/Rollins match, which gives us a main event at the PPV of Reigns vs. Bryan. I wanted a Bryan win at the Rumble and then facing Brock at Mania, but if that was chicken shit then I was pretty pleased with the chicken salad they delivered last night. Reigns' mic time was limited, that spear to the old man on the floor during the main event looked *great* and a hopefully convincing win over Bryan in a great match at the PPV will either give solidly establish him as a face heading in to Mania, or as someone the crowd absolutely hates and forces their hand to go heel with him. Either way the next 2 months at the top of the card look a lot more interesting than they did 8 days ago and I dig this path a lot more than the other options that looked available.
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If I had to guess, I would say the announcement of Triple H Vs. Sting? I'm not sure...but I'm confident it will be something that does not have anything to do with Daniel Bryan. Could be nothing at all, and one big dumb gag like addressing Axel never entering the Rumble. But I'm sure they won't "announce" anything RE Sting until at least Fast Lane as they're trying to sell that show around his appearance and confrontation with Hunter.
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Looks like he was out from June '89 until September '90.
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I thought he was out for well over a year?
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To a large extent you can actually quote Rocky on that. It doesn't matter. Mania 17 doesn't do quite as many buys, but both of them are blowing up without the other.
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For anyone unfamiliar or looking for a second opinion, just wanted to add in another vouch for IVP Videos. Haven't had the need to order anything from him in a while as I've been staying current with NJPW PPVs and otherwise working through Yearbooks, Network content and Ditch's Best of 2000s Japan. But he is the man and great to deal with.
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I hope they promote the hell out of the Black History Month content. I don't know if it'll get a single person to sign up, but think its important they highlight and push the hell out of content other than the monthly PPVs. How much do people outside of this world or those who used to order the PPVs every month even know what's available? Just watched a fun Bad News Allen promo on there. Nothing out of this world, but nice to check out something different for a few minutes before heading out the door.
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I'd be pretty shocked if Bryan had a guarantee upwards of 7 figures. Given his spot at Mania last year and what we know about past Mania payoffs his overall haul in 2014 makes sense. Going forward? I'd imagine his downside a lot less.
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LOVE Austin. I think watching with him might trump 1/4 for me. Dude loves it so much and his passion just bleeds through the podcast.
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[2000-10-09-NJPW-Do Judge] Toshiaki Kawada vs Kensuke Sasaki
WingedEagle replied to Loss's topic in October 2000
Between the Dome, the All Japan and New Japan rosters in the corner and the heat this came across like a truly titanic dream match. Goliath vs. Goliath. Even if Sasaki didn't have the same rep and history, he felt like Kawada's equal on this night. The initial lockup is one Steve Austin would love and it certainly set the stage here. Tenryu might throw my favorite punch in wrestling, but no on sells a devastating punch like Toshiaki Kawada. Absolutely love how he slowly collapses. Come to think of it, I've definitely seen Tenryu pull something similar so perhaps that's where he picked it up. The operating space here is really noticeable -- they're always in each other's grill, never allowing much breathing room. Whether its Sasaki rushing to the mount or corner work, there's no circling or letting anyone gather himself. Basic kicks to the leg and chops are so stiff and weighty, and the stakes so great, that it feels like this could end at any time. Each man goes for his finisher only to have it blocked, before Kawada finally secures this one with a big kick. It felt appropriate that this ended after an accumulation of damage from this war rather than any sudden bomb. This was no dominating victory as both are dead on the mat afterwards with Kawada needing Fuchi & Team AJ to help out. Pretty great. Not my MOTY but close, and presumably a top 15-20 candidate at worst for the decade. ****1/2- 15 replies
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Black Liger! Skinny Makabe! Makabe as a powerhouse junior seems like a nice contrast against Kanemoto & Tanaka. Really liked how Liger played the Misawa role here, always there to bail out Makabe when the opposition has him reeling and using the palm blows as his equalizer. Also thought it put over Makabe's size & power offense effectively before the limb work of Tanaka ends it. Really fun, different juniors match with a different dynamic than I'd usually expect from the juniors. ***3/4
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- NJPW
- September 12
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