Jmare007

I agree that the "personal history" playing a part (or not) in how people rank wrestlers should be a entire different thread because I have no doubt there's gonna be a good number of participants like Grimmas that feel that way about a number of wrestlers. I'm not on that group at all, I tend to side with Phil on this one. To be honest, this business has been too fucked up for far too long to the point that I kinda expect almost everyone that works to have some "problematic" history in some form of fashion. But I understand that not everyone feels that way and that separating the art from the artist is not something everyone can do. In regards to Lawler, I think he might fall on my list because I'm not sure I'll be able to revisit him and "recency" bias might knocl him down a peg. Same might happen with a lot of territory dudes tbh.

To add to the "dominance" of pinning both guys at the same time. Roman survived the LeBell Lock, which he previously tapped to AND a Crossface + LeBell Lock combo. They made him look strong as hell AND keep heat on him with Jey's interference. Pretty damn good booking, for once.

@elliott@Quentin I get what you guys are saying but I don't think any wrestler on the planet has a "Jordan" case, at least I can say that confidently from 1988 to 2021 (I don't want to say before that because I'm mostly limited to territories and Japan before 88'). No matter what n°1 GWE contender you pick you will always end up in a "Duncan" case discussion because there's always a run from another wrestler from another promotion/country that can be put head to head against that n°1 contender. Specially in a setting like this one when we share and debate with so many different people whose tastes vary greatly. Like, to me, Bryan absolutely runs with BITW from 2006 to 2010 and I could make a case from 2012 to 2014, and from 2018 till now. But I can't say that shit with complete confidence because of course there's other wrestlers that you can make cases for each of those years too, the fact that Bryan still wins in my view doesn't make it a Jordan case. And neither should make it for any other wrestler too, imo. As for the question of when does Bryan becomes a wrestler always mentioned in BITW discussions by a big group of people, it's from 2006 till this day, I think.

WOW! I did not expect that kind of finish. I wanted Roman but I didn't see him getting to pin both guys (regardless of Jay's assist). Bring the Cesaro feud! Very good triple threat.

Jay Uso talking shit for like 2 straight minutes in the background was outstanding.

Edge winning this and the crowd is going to go nuts.

God damn brothers, this video package is up there with the best. I'm pumped as fuck.

What the fuck....

From match 3 on, every match has had at least 1 insane bump.

They always go long if they want/need to ever since the Network started though.

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Not a good look for the main event and the ultimate opportunist.

Save it for Summerslam so Big E can take the belt in front of a crowd.

Of course Vince books the face to lose in his hometown.

That was a better bombfest than Sami vs Owens. I thought it was a really great showcase for Riddle.

This feud is about a scooter?

These two continue to be insane.

Over/Under on him pulling his hair gotta be what, 10 times?

The layout of the match fine, but not a lot you can do with Nattie and Tamina.

Nia with the Peter Griffin!

After the piped in noises from yesterday I have no clue when the live crowd is actually reacting.

LMAO!!!

Saudi crowds started the trend!

Fiend should've tried to dive onto Randy, got RKO'd and end the match right there.

At least they got that one right.