MoS

Meh. I get the most funny and clever idea behind booking this match, but there was nothing here that could not have been achieved with a face to face segment.

Starting the show now. Happy Diwali everyone! V looks a bit like Ricochet

This is true and really goes to the nth, corniest extreme with the Elite, where every tag, every second glance and furtive look are sometimes treated by their biggest fans as clever layered storytelling. It's an idea that probably really started becoming prevalent with the RoH DVD era, as pointed out.

A very happy Diwali in advance to all of you!

Of course no fighting here, we all love shooting the shit about wrestling! I believe Mick Foley has said that he would put extra effort into those IWA matches he knew were going to be taped and watched by fans worldwide. Part of that was just professional prudence - it's just a good career move. But he has always talked about what he wants fans to like and appreciate when they watch his matches on tape. I see the point about the match not being good with retrospective viewing if the live crowd shat on it. In fairness, the clash often occurs due to the corollary: can a match - and wrestlers - that got over massively with the live crowd be retrospectively viewed as bad?

Younger fans will never experience the absurd hilarity I experienced when I found out as a kid that the best wrestling program on Earth was getting pre-empted in America for a fucking dog show

Because we are no longer in 1981, a wrestling match isn't worked *only* for the live audience, it is also worked for fans watching on DVD, on streaming, much later in time. Dave doesn't revisit matches or his ratings because he sees no value in it; it's all about what worked in the moment. That is his philosophy, and it's not the only valid one on this topic. It's a philosophical stance that has brought him in conflict with members of this board in the past too.

Yeah, as someone who does enjoy alcohol and once even drunkposted here, alcohol addiction is no joke, and excess alcohol is so terrible for you. It really is incredible how weed got the devil's lettuce reputation, when excessive alcohol fits that far better. If he deduced he has a problem at an early stage, then it's for the best for everyone involved. It's also probably for the best that he doesn't start playing his new heel character while having a drinking problem.

Best of luck to Mox. When he returns, hopefully he feels clean and cured, and gives us the best run of his life.

There actually are some bad faith losers who are trying to portray this as Meltzer being some salty loser, when it is obvious to anyone who listens that a) Dave is not salty in the slightest; and b) this is like the dorkiest, funniest Meltzer-related thing in forever, in a wholesome manner. I am dying at him stubbornly sticking to his philosophy that a match is supposed to be worked for the live audience at at that particular time and place, and not to be watched later on tape. If that costume died in front of the crowd at that Halloween party, it can't be more than 2 stars no matter how much its pictures pop people on the internet, damn it.

Would anyone be excited at the prospect of watching and discussing Bianca fail to cross the line and win the big one yet another time? How are the "wait and watch it play out, haters" crowd justifying her latest loss?

Wow these girls are killing themselves in what I honestly thought was going to be a comedy match. That table just would NOT break, would it.

Spotfest of the year

Dante is a freak of nature and all comparisons to an early Matt Sydal are absolutely warranted

Alright King. Happy Punk has been nice and all, but tear him several new ones now.

Just an incredible match. Danielson made sure to bolster his GWE case by making sure the arm-work played into the finish too. Wrestler of the year.

Goddamn King is so great

Danielson's chest gets red by the mildest of chops, so I really want to see him against WALTER

Dragon v. King

Yeah, it was a long time ago, and hey, if he shows his peers he has changed, and if he doesn't say terrible shit like that again, then I don't really care about him signing with AEW or WWE. There's no excuse for him saying what he did, that shit was wrong when he said it and it is wrong now, and I wish we had seen some actual accountability instead of a non-apology and a mandated donation, but I will settle for "Doesn't repeat that shit ever."

Based on personal experience, lawyers over time often become as seedy as their seedy clients. Constantly representing and defending them has an effect on you, even when you know you're just doing your job.

I get "you need to enable cookies to log in" when I try to sign in, even though my cookies are enabled. Started happening a few months ago.

Effy also worked with Disco Inferno. Has Disco Inferno also evolved and become more understanding about the LGBTQ community? I'm just saying that "Effy worked with them, so they must not be homophobic" isn't really a particularly strong point.

I think this pretty much confirms RoH isn't coming back. If I am Tony Khan, I buy this without question.

I didn't like the match itself, but Hangman pretending to be marshmallow man and that reveal worked for me cuz it's Hangman, and it makes absolute sense that he would hang in that dumbass costume for that long cuz he loves his dork friends and he feels bad about making them fight and want to make it right with a big victory. I hope they use this to take the Elite and Dark Order out of the way and focus the last build of the PPV for Omega-Page.