MoS

Just an incredible match. Danielson made sure to bolster his GWE case by making sure the arm-work played into the finish too. Wrestler of the year.

Goddamn King is so great

Danielson's chest gets red by the mildest of chops, so I really want to see him against WALTER

Dragon v. King

Yeah, it was a long time ago, and hey, if he shows his peers he has changed, and if he doesn't say terrible shit like that again, then I don't really care about him signing with AEW or WWE. There's no excuse for him saying what he did, that shit was wrong when he said it and it is wrong now, and I wish we had seen some actual accountability instead of a non-apology and a mandated donation, but I will settle for "Doesn't repeat that shit ever."

Based on personal experience, lawyers over time often become as seedy as their seedy clients. Constantly representing and defending them has an effect on you, even when you know you're just doing your job.

I get "you need to enable cookies to log in" when I try to sign in, even though my cookies are enabled. Started happening a few months ago.

Effy also worked with Disco Inferno. Has Disco Inferno also evolved and become more understanding about the LGBTQ community? I'm just saying that "Effy worked with them, so they must not be homophobic" isn't really a particularly strong point.

I think this pretty much confirms RoH isn't coming back. If I am Tony Khan, I buy this without question.

I didn't like the match itself, but Hangman pretending to be marshmallow man and that reveal worked for me cuz it's Hangman, and it makes absolute sense that he would hang in that dumbass costume for that long cuz he loves his dork friends and he feels bad about making them fight and want to make it right with a big victory. I hope they use this to take the Elite and Dark Order out of the way and focus the last build of the PPV for Omega-Page.

I love Hangman Page so much

Lol what the fuck is this. Tell you what, fans are really lucky weed is legal in Boston

Lmao he compared himself to Hunter then said he is too good for that before putting over his dad. I am finding this entire thing hilarious. I do not know if this is a good or a bad thing. I am just laughing

Heel Mox is going to be so awesome

Yeah, same with how most people not born in countries with a strong cricket tradition feel the same about cricket's rules. I would say the concept of batters trying to complete runs and, the fielding side trying to catch out, run out, or bowl/strike out the batter by the bowler/pitcher. Cricket sixes = baseball home runs too

Well that match was absolutely tremendous. And I loved the post-match angle too. Loved how Serena's Bret Hart tribute tights paid off in a Bret Hart tribute finish, for a really needy meta-appreciation of the match.

Man Danielson and Kingston have such great chemistry. Really hope they revisit this and make it a full fledged feud in time

I managed to use the Jericho promo to catch a couple of runs for Houston in the World Series, so grateful for that. Baseball will never be as good as cricket, but it's a pretty entertaining sport. In terms of the major American sports, I rank it second behind basketball.

Punk did great in the match doing his old Bret Hart selling the knee tribute. It's just that I find Bobby Fish just so... mediocre. He really epitomizes mid for me. That MJF angle was great, and one of the big reasons why is because Sting is such a likeable babyface. Heinously attacking him means far more than heinously as attacking Jericho.

Oh come on, did Fish really need to be protected with that kickout right after the pin? I know Punk was selling the knee, but still.

This match has been slow and mediocre, but that one-legged elbow drop was neat, and also made for a nice explanation for why Punk's usually shitty elbow drops looked like shit in this instance.

And when he goes for a GPS, apparently

As a fan I stopped following ROH regularly around the time Davey Richards and Eddie Edwards were having their terrible shit faux-MMA matches for the title in the main event. A very close friend of mine was really into Chikara and I started watching that more, a decision I have never regretted. It was so weird for me to stop following RoH. For a generation of hardcore fans like myself, who came online in the mid-00s, just after the Monday Night Wars had ended when a lot of the posters here first came online, so most of the discussion at that time would center on why wrestling had lost popularity, how HHH was destroying Monday Night Raw, why WCW had lost, whether Shawn Michaels and Undertaker were hall of famers...and RoH. Joe and Punk. Bryan Danielson and indeed, Low Ki. Ring of Honor was like the only "popular" discussion topic then that was actually positive and exciting, and I quickly became immersed. It took me some time to be able to watch some of those matches because RF were not shipping those tapes to India and I was a kid who couldn't afford them anyway. Then I learnt torrenting and during a brief period for a year or so in 2007-08, YouTube might as well have been Alibaba's cave. It was when it still worked on buffering and not streaming, there were video length limits, but because I guess promotions were not paying full attention to it, there would be entire shows sometimes on YouTube uploaded in parts. Remember watching the Joe-Punk trilogy on YouTube. I followed Danielson during his title and I was so invested for his success when he signed with WWE. For that generation of internet hardcore fans (especially younger, more impressionable fans like me) that got online back then, ROH really was the platonic ideal of current pro wrestling, as silly as that sounds now. It is so weird that it seems to be ending with a complete whimper, after a protracted, extended slow death where it stopped being the cool niche within a niche for a long time before it's evident demise. Of course, the pandemic was no one's fault, but if RoH was cooler and had been more relevant at the time the pandemic started, maybe Sinclair doesn't just shut it down indefinitely. I am sure fans over the next few days will talk about when it started going down south. I stopped following a long time back, but I am seeing people on Twitter question Bully Ray's booking of RoH too. I did not know when exactly Bully Ray booked RoH, but no one seems to have one good word to say about it. It definitely seems like it went cold for a while, then got hot due to the Elite but who never really liked RoH, so that was weird?? And as soon as AEW became a thing and RoH lost the Elite, they immediately lost whatever momentum and buzz they had.

That is all fine, but how does that translate to pro wrestling? Or make him appealing on a wrestling show? How does this inform how he wrestles in the ring? I am just trying to understand why he would be someone a major promotion would be interested in bringing. Not everyone can be Orange Cassidy, who was always great at basic pro wrestling like sympathetic selling and fiery comebacks, and he could incorporate his character into his in-ring work. Plus, OC is really an exception and they are exceptions for a reason.

Can someone explain what Danhausen's appeal is? He is some skinny dude who...jokes that he is actually an evil monster?? I don't get it? Can he be anything more than a prelim jobber?