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  1. garretta
    They're really trying to get Erik over here, as Loss said. I applaud the effort, but why do this with a young, unproven guy, even if he's the boss's son? This would have been fine after he'd been groomed for a few years, say in the early Nitro days, but it's way premature here. At least they should have shows him successfully applying the hold at the end. I hope they let Sasaki wrestle a few times to make this video worth his while; it's a total waste to being a guy all the way from Japan for what amounts to a cameo in a two-minute video. Them again, that kind of excess is typical of WCW.
  2. garretta
    I'm going to comment before I even see the whole match, because a mistake on UWFI's part has made the whole thing irrelevant to me. To wit, where's the score at the bottom? Where are the shots of the scoreboard so we're supposed to tell who's winning and losing? Without either of the above, shoot-style is like watching a gym workout, and as is the case most of the time when I see a match I neither understand nor care about on these discs, I keep wishing for this to turn into a Flair-Dusty confrontation in the TBS studios circa 1986, or Hogan vs. a random heel on SNME, or anything else but what I'm actually seeing. Stuff like this Is why even the worst American segments and matches mean more to me than almost anything from a foreign country. I watch the international stuff on these discs because I paid for it; I enjoy most of it, but there are times like these when I realize that I'll never be as cosmopolitan in my tastes as some of you, nor do I care to be. Shoe, I'm pretty sure that the third judge is Lord James Blears.
  3. garretta
    I'll never get why it's so important to some of you that WWF Flair had to look and talk like JCP Flair. They were two different takes on the same character from two different companies with two completely different visions. Unchanged JCP Flair doesn't last ten minutes in the ring with either Hogan or Savage, and certainly doesn't get two WWF title reigns. In fact, Vince would have had the time of his life making JCP Flair look like total dogcrap just to prove his own genius. It's only because Flair was willing to get out of the suits and into the sweaters and robes, and stop talking about bright lights, big cities and pretty ladies and all the rest of the JCP stuff that his old fans loved, that he was able to survive in the WWF at all, kind of like Dusty and his polka dots. Once he established that he was a viable WWF character, he was allowed to be more of the Flair that those old fans of his loved, again kind of like Dusty. At any rate, I could have done without the Arnold Benedict stuff, which ruined Hall's whole promo for me. Way to stereotype the ignorant Latino, Vince. I really thought Flair spoke from the heart; he probably despised the way he was positioned in this whole deal, as solely a product of Curt and Heenan's combined genius. I loved the football analogy, which you don't hear often in the WWF, where other sports only exist for Vince to make fun of for the most part. But of course we have to shoehorn the word "survive" into a Survivor Series promo, whether it really fits or not. Flair pulled it off about as well as could be expected, but that whole conceit continues to bug the hell out of me, even though I know it's coming every single year.
  4. garretta
    Ken Johnson (Slick) was actually an ordained minister, so this wasn't just Vince having a cheap laugh. I would expect him to sound something like this in real life if I walked into his church. Too bad there really weren't any good heel managers for him to play off of; the best of the bunch at this point was Jimmy Hart, and he was turning face once Hogan came back. Nice quick promo from Flair and Hall. It's almost like they knew Flair would be leaving soon and wanted to transfer to Perfect/Razor, the way Hall talked about Curt suckering him. Those two are so great in their roles that if I hadn't already known that they'd been tag champs in the AWA and someone had told me, I'd have laughed right in their face.
  5. garretta
    Curt's obviously happy to be back in the ring, and even the trash talking between him and Savage comes off as teasing between athletes with mutual respect, not between two guys who not even a week before this were deadly enemies. At least we didn't get any talk about unbreakable bonds or psychedelic gift exchanges, so things are looking up already. I could have done without the "Flair wanted to be like Mr. Perfect all along" talk too, but that's just Vince's way of saying that as much as he may respect Flair, it's Mr. Perfect whom he created with the sweat of his bookers' brows. I'm not even sure that Curt really had his heart in that part of the hype, but it's harmless enough if you know the real history of the sport. The idea of Curt all of a sudden bringing Razor Ramon in bothers me more, quite frankly. Hyping your own creations over those of other promotions is one thing; rewriting history that isn't even six months old is something entirely different, and worse. Surely Vince didn't really believe that his fans were either that stupid or that gullible. Wait, what am I saying? Heenan wanting to keep Curt out of the ring so Flair could shine is infinitely more believable, and they should have run with it more, maybe even mentioning Curt's back injury at least in passing. I would have liked to see more of the Prime Time angle used here; it was like they wanted to explain as little as they could possibly get away with. That's all well and good if they wanted Curt to be a complete surprise at Survivor Series, but since they did such an amazing angle, it's only right that they should get as much use out of it as possible. In case you were wondering, there's no such station as WWFB in Sarasota. Why couldn't they just say that Savage was across the hall and had been ordered not to engage in a physical confrontation with Heenan and/or Curt on penalty of losing the match at Survivor Series?
  6. garretta
    Pillman as a possible new recruit to the Dangerous Alliance had wings, but Watts was apparently so determined to bury both him and Heyman that nothing came of it. What a shame. I liked that Pillman actually called Zenk Tom here. WCW was so determined to make Zenk some kind of larger-than-life hero that they ignored his humanity in Vince-like fashion at times. Zenk really sounded stilted here. It was like Pillman was trying to have a conversation with his friend and Zenk was trying to remember a scripted promo, which he may very well have been. That really took the juice out of this segment, as did knowing in advance that it would lead to absolutely nothing.
  7. garretta
    Remember, SNME always treated its angles as brand new by now, so as far as this show was concerned, this was the first time Bret and Shawn had ever crossed paths. If this felt like step one in the build to their match, it's because it was supposed to be, for better or worse. I loved the show of emotion from Bret as he joined Gene; it seemed out of character for him, but I thoroughly enjoyed it. Shawn was a bit more pugnacious than his character seemed to call for, but the HBK we know and some of us love wasn't fully formed yet, so it's possible that they were still experimenting with what would and wouldn't work for him. I've always heard that Gene legitimately hated to be roughed up, so his indignant reaction to being caught in the middle of the shoving match between Bret and Shawn worked perfectly. I liked Shawn bringing up Bret's loss to Davey as a further slap in the face. Even this early on, the man certainly knew how to agitate. As I said in an earlier thread, Marty's return took a lot of the luster off of this, and we Yearbook viewers have already seen Bret beat Shawn clean twice, once in a ladder match. But the vast majority of the audience has never seen these two hook up as standalone singles, so this was probably enough to whet their appetites, especially with Shawn having just won the IC belt from Davey.
  8. garretta
    Hall really seemed out of place in this interview. I actually like the Flair/Razor dynamic because it's a fresh pairing, but when Flair's whooping it up and Curt's right behind him, Razor's lethargic way of talking simply doesn't fit. It's great most other times, but when he's out with Flair Hall needs to talk a little more quickly, even if his accent slips a bit. I liked Curt talking about how easy it was to cause dissension between Warrior and Savage and putting over how nuts they are. You don't know the half of it, pal, but you will soon enough. Flair-Michaels may have been an interesting way to go if they'd chosen to, but the Heartbreak Kid character was still too new to risk accidentally being turned back face. He could have been a great sidekick for Flair, though; we've seen them together during this year before Hall came along.
  9. garretta
    I'll bet that Watts talked the way he did out of respect for Grizzly Smith, Jake's dad, who was in the WCW offices at the time. Either that or his statement was "suggested" to him by Turner's corporate lawyers. I don't know why he just didn't go with the standard "He couldn't take the competition" line that he used for most of the wrestlers who left Mid-South. Granted, that kind of stuff was way outdated by now, but I doubt hat would have stopped him if that's what he wanted to say.
  10. garretta
    That was a slip on my part, Migs. Thanks for the catch!
  11. garretta
    The finish in the hospital elimination match stank. They much have had rent-a-cops doing locker room security if both Gibson and Lane could come back to ringside without anyone noticing. Also, the beatdown was far too long. Three-on-two is almost expected, but if Kyle's going to get involved you don't need Corny in there, and vice versa. Plus, Corny's punches shouldn't knock anyone down unless his fist is loaded. As I've said before, I'm willing to stand for more of his physicality because of SMW's behind-the-scenes situation, but punching out wrestlers straight up is just wrong for him. The fall-count anywhere match was a little better, but I've seen enough of the ether for quite a while. Also, if Mark Curtis was counting Lane down in the sleeper, how did he get outside so fast to see Dr. Tom pinning Morton? We never saw Stan get out of the hold, so why did Curtis stop the count? Corny didn't drag him out that I could see. It seems to be a case of "Oops, the finish the booker wants is outside, so I better forget about this one and get my ass out there." Neither one of these matches was SMW's finest hour. Hopefully the street fight makes up for them. By the way, did anyone ever find out who Dutch whipped in Hazard, if anyone at all?
  12. garretta
    First fall: Jesse's off to a flying start, saying that Pillman turning on Brad earlier was something that he'd been taught by his former pro coach Sam Wyche. JR doesn't respond; I'm not sure if that's because he wanted to get to the intros or because he was afraid to say anything for fear of pissing off the owners of the Falcons, whom he was working for at the time and who I'm sure had a relationship of some kind with Wyche and his then-current employers, the Buccaneers. It's surreal for this WWF fan to see Jake and Rude on the same side of the fence after their memorable feud back in '88. I'll never get used to seeing Vader thrown around like a normal-sized wrestler, especially when it comes out of nowhere against a guy whom he's just been pounding for the last two or three minutes, as was the case with Rick here. Herc (Super Invader) doesn't look bad here, although billing him from Thailand is way, way out there considering his general coloring and such. Sting/Nikita vs. Jake/Cactus looks like one hell of a match. Too bad we never got to see it. I loved the blind tag from Herc to Rude which messed up Scotty's Frankensteiner without him even knowing it. Great tag team coordination between two former Heenan Family members. I don't think JR appreciated Jesse saying that Watts bought a Cadillac with Jake's fine money. For that matter, how did Watts himself take it? On Mid-South TV, even heel commentators played it straight and left him alone. Jake gets the pin on Nikita with a tights-assisted rollup. I have this timed at somewhere around eighteen minutes, and we're about nine in, so it looks like we're going through the rest of this at warp speed, which is a shame. Team Rude 4, Team Sting 3. Second fall: Almost nothing to it; after a brief Sting-Jake sequence, Herc tags in long enough to get pinned after Sting rams his face into the mat. When people are getting pins off moves like that, you know the match is running out of time. Team Sting 3, Team Rude 3. Third fall: The vast majority of this fall is a confrontation between Rick and Vader, which features Rick kicking out relatively easily after taking a powerslam, a Bossman slam and a second-rope splash in succession. What is he made of, titanium? Seriously, if you know the Steiners won't sell unless it's the finish, make sure that a sequence like that is the finish. I liked Jesse trying to get inside Rick's head as he's being pounded by Rude, although I seriously doubt that he was actually surprised by the way pro wrestlers could possibly hit after a seven-year career. Then again, maybe he was, since not too many people actually hit him hard for fear of an unscripted receipt. I didn't like the finish here at all. The botch (if it was one) of Rick lifting Vader is one thing, but Scotty deliberately coming off the top even though he knows it'll get him DQ'ed? That's utterly ridiculous, and they can't claim that he didn't know where he was, either, since he took the time to get set up there. Get a clue, Dusty! Team Rude 3, Team Sting 2. Fourth fall: Another real quickie: Rick and Vader brawl to the outside, then Rude Pearl Harbors Rick and lays him out with the Rude Awakening on the floor. Vader stumbles in, Rick doesn't. I like finishes like these in elimination matches, but I still have a sour taste from Scotty's elimination. Team Rude 3, Team Sting 1. Fifth fall: This one's even dumber than Scotty's elimination; I actually rewound to see it again. Sting's doing a good job fighting three-on-one, so Jake creates a distraction by going for the cobra. While Patrick (?) is distracted, Vader goes up top and squashes both Sting and Rude like bugs. Patrick hasn't seen a second of this, yet somehow Vader's tossed for coming off the top. By whose authority, the popcorn vendor's? I know they were running out of time and couldn't have anyone left on the heel side be cleanly pinned by Sting, but that's no excuse for making Patrick look stupid. I'm starting to think this should have been a standard one-fall match. Team Rude 2, Team Sting 1. Sixth fall: Jake drags Rude to the corner and tags himself in then DDTs Sting to get the clean win. Survivors: Jake and Rude. The two horrible top rope DQs ruined this completely for me. I'd have just made this one fall, as I said above, with Jake getting the win on Sting to set up Havoc. Individual parts of this weren't bad, but the overall bout was stupidly booked and too rushed. Vince does this kind of match way, way better.
  13. garretta
    I would have liked it better if Morton had put Lane out with the ether before pinning him instead of just doing a rollup like he could in any other match. I don't even think the rag stayed on Lane's head during the pin, which kind of makes the whole thing pointless. I hate to harp on this, but when it comes to SMW you have to put everything you know about managers getting physically involved out of your mind and accept the fact that at the end of the day, the only one Corny trusted to take (and in some cases, give) the major beatdowns was himself, because unlike all of the other talent, he knew he would always be there. There's no such thing as "shouldn't be involved", and that goes for all sorts of interference too. It may have looked ludicrous at times, but at least whatever job needed doing got done the way Corny wanted it done.
  14. garretta
    This is great stuff. I personally think Jake Roberts is just a little scarier at this time, but since he's about to disappear Sully's got my vote for scariest active heel in North America. Corny deserves credit for making him so dark, first because they take this kind of evil seriously in this part of the country, and also because if Sullly's at his best (which he appears to be), the Bodies and Corny are no longer SMW's top heels. They're annoying and sleazy; Sully's downright evil. I can't wait to pick up the rest of this angle as I go along!
  15. garretta
    This was a nicely done video, much longer than what we usually see these days. This is what promotions do for their top acts, and Rock 'n' Roll certainly qualifies in SMW. I loved the sign that said "Heavenly Bodies are has-beens, Rock 'n' Roll is the future". No offense, honey, but have you gotten a look at Ricky and Robert lately? Spring chickens they are not no more! (To be fair, Lane's not too far behind them.)
  16. garretta
    This is, hands down, the best promo I've ever heard from a manager anywhere at any time. When Corny's funny, there's no one who's more enjoyable, but when he turns serious, the man is legit scary because of the sheer venom he can project. I've heard managers talk about hating wrestlers and wanting them out of wrestling, most notably Bobby Heenan and Hulk Hogan. But Heenan was more jealous than hateful; he either wanted the WWF title or was determined to keep the AWA belt on Nick Bockwinkel, depending on when the promo was given. For Corny, the belts are an important but relatively small part of the equation; he wants Rock 'n' Roll out of SMW and out of his life simply because he hates their stinkin' guts with a purple passion. He wants to maim and destroy them because they've made his life unbearable for eight years, plain and simple. I loved that he was able to rattle off the towns and stipulations so correctly and so quickly. I'll bet it took more than one take, but whichever take we saw was done perfectly. I wish that Dr. Tom had said a few words just because, but this promo was so good it didn't need anything else. I didn't notice that Corny was bleeding, but he was so mad that it wouldn't surprise me if he was. Either that or he got excited and smashed himself in the nose without knowing it. Corny also did an excellent, if brief, job of hyping the upcoming six-man. He was glorious, complaining about Rock 'n' Roll trying to take him out prior to Thanksgiving Thunder on one hand and threatening to do the same to them on the other. I didn't know that Bullet Bob was scheduled to wrestle instead of Ronnie, but I'm kind of glad that it didn't happen that way; that feud needs its own space to grow, and it'll get it soon enough. I've never heard a manager admit that he's a handicap to his team in the ring before. Usually they go the "How dare you try to put your hands on me!" route, which Corny does here, but only secondarily. I must say that I'm touched that he doesn't; want the Bodies to worry about him while they're supposed to be wrestling. Jim Cornette, you are truly one of nature's noble men.
  17. garretta
    I'm not sure about this one. The idea looked good on paper, but this felt too one-sided. To put it another way, they had two great angles here, Morton fighting by himself and Gibson's hand being injured. They could have spread them out over two weeks, or even three; they had a lot of time before Thanksgiving Thunder. But they did them both at the same time, and it just didn't work for me. It seemed more like Corny the booker wanting to put over his star heels as unstoppable more than anything else, and he's going to get worse in that regard as time goes on. I especially didn't like him chasing out the jobbers singlehandedly, even with the racquet; that should have been Kyle's job as the muscle. I can understand him wanting to get his licks in on Ricky and Robert, but he should try in the future not to look too much like Mike Tyson doing it. A few shots here and there is fine, but going right in there with Lane and Prichard like he was a combatant was too, too much. Dutch didn't help on commentary either. He's not good when he gets too heelish, much like Jesse Ventura. Doubting Gibson's story was fine. Talking about how tired Morton would get trying to fight two guys and how he let his emotions get the best of him was tremendous. Going on and on about how gutless Morton was when he was trying to fight two guys by himself was going too far. Worse yet, that meant Caudle had to go out of his way to defend both Morton and Gibson, which isn't his strong suit either. This isn't Saturday Night's Main Event, where Vince and Jesse threw logic and common sense to the winds on commentary so that the Saturday Night Live fans who tuned in by mistake would know who was supporting the faces and who was supporting the heels. Bob and Dutch work best when they sprinkle their biases lightly into their otherwise objective mic work, Down and Dirty excepted. The promo work beforehand was the highlight, and Corny was especially good. He did a great job mixing in the Morton/Gibson feud from WCW, telling Ricky that Robert was finally paying him back for his initial turn. You also believed every word when he said that he's been waiting to catch Rock 'n' Roll like this since 1984, especially since it's true and every long-term fan knows it. The crack about Paul was rather cheap, but it worked fine to get Ricky in the ring for his beating while at the same time taking Robert out of the equation even if he showed up. Once Ricky challenged Stan and Dr. Tom to get in the ring without Robert being there, the regular tag match that had been signed for was superseded, and the scheduled match became Morton vs. Lane and Prichard. That's why Robert coming in caused Ricky to be disqualified; he was now an illegal participant. Even though I've watched most of this feud through the SMW set, I don't remember this angle being on there, and some of the promos didn't make it either, so I'm excited to see the week-to-week progression as it continues to unfold. Who thought that the smallest of America's four major promotions would have not only its hottest tag team feud, but maybe its hottest feud, period?
  18. garretta
    This was a heel-in-training match for Pillman more than anything else, and he graded out kind of average in my eyes. He had the heel basics down- showboating, arguing with the ref, thumb to the eyes- but like so many heels, he so completely changed his style here that he really wasn't exciting. I know that old-timers supposedly say that heels should only punch and kick when they're not begging off and using foreign objects, but that's completely off-base to me. The way I look at it, a gifted wrestler like Steamboat should beat a punch-and-kick artist decisively in less than five minutes one-on-one. Pillman wasn't quite that, but he's not flying successfully anymore, and he hasn't been a heel long enough for his rulebreaking to come off as much more than throwing a hissy fit because nothing else is working. Maybe he's just too much of a pretty boy at this point to be taken seriously as a heel; they didn't even change his theme music! Steamer looked good here, and the counter that led to the pin was classic, as were the playing-possum spots by both guys. Like Brody, I was surprised that the match ended so cleanly; it would have done a lot more for Pillman's new attitude if he'd pulled brass knucks out of his tights and waffled Steamer to get the pin, or used a chair, or even gotten a pin using the ropes. As it is, it looks like they're moving toward an apology and reconciliation with a guy who tried the other side of the fence and decided that it wasn't for him. We know that's not the case, so it'll be interesting to see how they solidify Brian's heeldom, if you will. The "This match sucks!" crowd was dead wrong, by the way. This wasn't the classic that it might have been if Pillman had still been a face, but it was still very, very good for what it was. Jesse really brought his analyst hat for this match. I've heard it said that Watts basically pushed him into being more analytical. but that's really not the case; he's always been this good when he's bean allowed to be. Unfortunately, he got stuck with Vince "Bastard Child of The Riddler and The Joker" McMahon for most of his broadcasting prime, and no one sounded good opposite him, especially on SNME. Once he stopped trying to antagonize JR the way he did Vince and let himself analyze the way he did most of the time when he was with Gino on pay-per-views, he's been fine, and he and JR have been a lot smoother than either man will ever admit. There's just enough of the old Jesse to spice things up as well. He'll always appreciate a good thumb to the eye, and I loved him telling JR how much he loved guillotining guys by jumping off the apron. JR also shows enough sense not to argue with him or try to defend the faces too much; he just calls the action and lets Jesse say whatever he feels like, Are they the best team ever? No, but they're a damn sight better than anything the WWF can trot out at the moment. Even though Pillman's a heel now, JR still plugs his football background. There's nothing like consistency. Line of the match: Jesse, talking about the "Brian sucks" chant that broke out early in the bout: "I can tell (what they're saying), but I can't say it!"
  19. garretta
    For someone who bragged about what a straight-up kind of fighter he was, Watts could be a real backstabbing rat when it came to business. Thanks for the info, Loss!
  20. garretta
    This was a decent match, done more because each of the four men had individual rivalries with each other than anything else. Still, there was enough of a spark here that the eventual team vs. team feud was conceived, so that's one thing in its favor. Boy, was Douglas getting a big push or what? Beating Austin one-on-one was a huge deal, considering all the hype he's gotten about being the greatest TV champ of all time. Speaking of which, had Steamboat lost the TV title already? If he had, he didn't drop it back to Austin. JR had a lot on his plate here, with having to call the match, set up Hayes on commentary, get in a last little bit of hype for Havoc, plus plug next week's shows. Considering all of that, he was very good. One question, though: I've talked about this before, but why in the name of all that's sane did JR do a radio show to be aired that night? Couldn't WSB have arranged to air something else the night of a live pay-per-view? I guess either WCW didn't care about possibly cannibalizing its pay-per-view audience or WSB didn't care about getting next to no ratings for that night's show. Hayes isn't a bad backup color guy. He's heelish, but not disgustingly so, putting over each team's strategy, how tough it is for any one man to referee a tag match, and plugging not only Havoc but his own alliance with Heyman. I loved the line "He signs my check and I spend the money well". I'm not sure where he was going with the "Steamboat can't keep a partner" stuff, but Ricky has had quite a few partners lately: first Dustin, then Nikita, and now Shane. Thank heaven he settles down to Shane as his regular partner fairly soon. Nice bit of forecasting by JR on the future of Austin and Pillman as a team. They may not have been thought of as the Holywood Blondes just yet, but clearly Dusty and Watts had some plans for them as a team. As far as the actual wrestling goes, this was too short to be anything substantial. I don't think Pillman was iffy about working heel, but it was certainly new to him, and you can tell that Austin's leading the way for him a bit. Douglas and Steamer needed a little time to jell as well. The finish was what it was; I think they were still trying to establish Pillman's new attitude a bit, as throwing a guy over the top rope for no earthly reason definitely makes one a heel. I'm guessing Heyman and Austin were no longer together, which is a shame because the Blondes seem like a perfect team for Paul to manage, both as a unit and as individuals.
  21. garretta
    Jake can't help but be good, but this all rings hollow after Havoc. You can't even beat Sting and you're talking about the World title? Sure, Jake. How about making sure your snakes bite who they're supposed to, then we'll talk about wrestling. Watts, by the way, had already turned down Jake's idea about having a snake at ringside during his Mid-South days. I disagree with both him and Jake; Roberts the wrestler was a bad dude, but without the snake in the bag something was missing. The snake was the living embodiment of how far he'd go to hurt someone, and that's something the DDT, which was rapidly becoming just another transition move by now, didn't get across by itself. Any wrestler can prove their physical superiority in any bout, but to then put their opponent in danger of either being poisoned by a cobra or crushed to death by a python? That's the true test of whether a guy wants to step in the ring with a man like Jake: Is it worth your very life? Pete said up above that this interview was it for Jake in WCW, and apparently it was, as Barby subbed for him the following week against Dustin. Did they give an on-camera reason why he left, or was he just forgotten?
  22. garretta
    I'm not sure if it's rushing through the feud or making up for lost time. But when you think about it, how much more buildup does Rock 'n' Roll vs. Cornette really need? It seems like they're trying to get the fans to come to more than one event in the series, and if the venues are close enough, that might just be doable. To Pete's point above, of course any one of those matches could end a career on its own; that's the point of the series. We're not really supposed to think that each team will be able to make it through all four matches, and that adds to the suspense and raises the demand for tickets, as any of the four nights could be the night that Rock 'n' Roll send the Bodies and Corny out on three matching stretchers, never to return. This is what Sting-Jake should have been, although maybe a twelve-match series would have taken too long. But a five or six-match series culminating at Havoc would have been just the ticket.
  23. garretta
    Again, this was too short to really get into. The finishing sequence was superb, but there wasn't much to it other than that.
  24. garretta
    The Fabs were the first of their kind, AJ. Zenk was a midcarder they were desperate to do something with; people had seen his act before and were lukewarm to it at best by now. I haven't seen Brandi as Johnny Gunn outside of this video, so I can't comment on him.
  25. garretta
    If I hadn't just now read that Tom Brandi was Johnny Gunn, I'd have had no idea who he (Johnny Gunn) was. And my life would have been the better for it. To quote a tired old phrase from a few years ago, "Hey, Dusty. 1985 called, and it wants its video back!"
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