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  1. I haven't seen the match yet, but I'm guessing this was the old ether finish. Not a bad idea, but I don't like the cutesy jokes about tsetse flies and such. I'm more of a "Yeah, we cheated, but you can't do a damn thing about it now!" man. Still, hearing Stan talk about what a drunk Bobby is was funny, and of course I loved Corny rolling around in the money. No manager ever has enjoyed his work more, in both a kayfabe sense and in real life. I wish there were a thousand in the business today just like him. I guess it's on to Rock 'n' Roll for the Bodies. I loved Stan talking about how beating them was going to be "a piece of candy". Not the way most people would phrase it, but the point is still made.
  2. A nice self-explanatory segment to set up the tag title match later in the show. I'm guessing that Lacey was legit; he looked too ill at ease to have much experience in the business.
  3. Well, if you're Jerry Lawler and you've recently tried to create a new Sting, why not try to create a new '90s version of the Road Warriors. Brue/Bruise is Hawk, Screamer is Animal, and Ronnie Lottz is a slightly more demented version of Paul Ellering who's mad at something Lawler supposedly said about him at a "social gathering". Why Lawler would want to hang out with someone like him, Lottz never says. I kind of like the idea of a team that beats up heels and faces alike, but isn't that the Moondogs' job? They turned Embry face, it looks like they'll turn Eddie Gilbert face soon, so what do we need another team like that for, even if their gimmick looks a little different? Change the package a bit, wait for the Dogs to go completely stale, give them a more compelling reason to go after Lawler (none of which they did, apparently) and you may have something. Turning to the Colonel, there was a little too much WWF for my taste this go-round. The hyena laugh and bad "Hart attack" puns were in full force, and it seemed like he was just going through the motions like he has so many times up north. I would rather have seen his appearance in the studio and his unveiling of the Howard Hughes Connection. Actually, Hughes and Gaylord seem like a team that Vince had interest in that was sent to Memphis for some seasoning before being called up to the WWF. I have no way of knowing if that's true, but it seems natural that Vince would want to sign and push two monsters like those. (He eventually signed them both anyway.) I agree that the attention to detail concerning Jimmy's from the MSC was tremendous, probably unlike any other promotion in the U.S. at the time. Too bad the angle died before he could make his eventual triumphant (for him, at least) return.
  4. Not much more than a shorter version of your typical Bruno interview, but it's nice to see him back in a wrestling environment. Unfortunately, it wouldn't last long. I've said this before, but people who laugh at Bruno being around gimmicks and people like Missy just don't get it. He's said that even when he was WWWF champion, there were things he didn't like about the direction of the business, but as long as they didn't affect him directly, he let them slide. Standing next to Missy Hyatt for a two-minute interview in which Missy says nothing like he did at the Clash doesn't make him a hypocrite. Agreeing to do Main Event with Missy as a co-host would have been a different story. I find it interesting that although he talks about beating Buddy Rogers, he doesn't mention Madison Square Garden. I guess he figured that doing so would amount to a plug for Vince and the WWF, since everyone watching knew that MSG was still the WWF's number one building.
  5. This was a decent match, but nowhere near the classic some people have it tabbed as. I might as well get my biggest objection out of the way first: After making a big deal about how Corny's racquet was banned from ringside, what did he have in his hand, in fact interfere with to no response whatsoever from Bullet Bob? You got it. I'm not talking about the finish; I'm talking about the spot in the middle where Corny nails Jackie. Not only did Bullet Bob ignore the "racquet is banned" stip, but so did Phil and Les. The powder eventually got him tossed, but that's nowhere near good enough. For whatever reason, Corny often felt free to ignore stips that (I'm guessing) he felt would lessen the heat in a match, or that he simply couldn't get the wrestlers involved to agree to even after they'd been announced (more on that as we go along).. This was a prime example of the first. The crowd obviously didn't care (if they could even see it happen), but when I'm not in the moment and sitting at my computer nearly twenty-four years later, it really pisses me off. Come on, Corny, you know the racquet's a big part of your act. If you feel you need it, fine, but don't advertise that it's been banned for a match, have Bullet Bob specifically mention it, then come out with it like nothing was ever said. It takes a lot of the surprise from the finish, which should have shown that you and the Bodies were so desperate to win that you'd knowingly ignore a stip you signed for right in the ref's face. It's just bad form, and you know that if you caught Vince doing it you'd be all over him on TV like one of your cheap suits. Don't be a hypocrite. Moving on, the tornado style of the match and the poor lighting weren't exactly helpful, but you could still tell that these four were bleeding gushers and letting it all hang out. The Fultons bled the most, but the Bodies did their share too, even Stan with his toupee, which looks even more ridiculous with the headgear off than it does with it on. I liked Les saying that as many match types as he's been in, he doesn't feel that he's missed anything by not being in a match as brutal as this. What a way to put this over. Two matches and a clip, and he's already my new number one color man (sorry, Jesse) By the way, I would have loved to hear how Corny convinced Stan not only to take the headgear off, but to bleed while he was at it. The pre- and postmatch stuff was wonderful too. Corny throwing a tantrum after his teams lose never gets old, and the interview was something too. Dr. Tom stole it, though, when he accused Bullet Bob of taking the belts from him as if Stan wasn't even there. Bobby was great in his rebuttal as he vowed to make the Bodies wait for a rematch the way he and Jackie waited while Jackie's knee healed. But two moments stood out. First, there was Corny loudly protesting that there would be no match if he had to tie SMW up in court for five years. The Fultons came out, and after a merry chase, where did the Bodies go for sanctuary? Right into the teeth of the barbed wire that Corny wanted to keep them out of. Second and even funnier was Corny threatening to go into the crowd and slap every fan in the face after the Bodies lost, which is how I think the trash throwing got started. Who knew that Corny could actually use a tennis racquet on anything that isn't human? It'll be interesting to see how the rest of this feud plays out, especially with the Bodies and Rock 'n' Roll on a collision course. You know the Bodies will get the belts back in time to start that feud; the only question is how Corny will manage it with everyone in SMW from Bullet Bob on down trying to stop him.
  6. This was a mixed bag for me. The action was good, much better than I expected. Everyone worked hard, and this didn't feel rushed like you'd think a televised match designed to last up to three falls would be. Yes, the Bodies were eliminated quickly, but there was a good reason for it beyond just saving time. We got to see the debut of another staple of the Bodies: Dr. Tom's loaded boot, which I think lasted for the rest of the Bodies' SMW run. I didn't think we'd see as much action between the Bodies and the Fultons as we did, but what we got was a nice little preview of the barbed wire match, including why Corny's racquet was banned. Interestingly enough, it was the Fultons (Jackie, I think) who used it, although Corny using it was why Bullet Bob banned it for the barbed wire match. All of that said, there was so much else that didn't work at all. Having the partners wrestle each other goes against the team concept; why not just make it every man for himself and not even call it a four-team match? If you promote a match like this as a tag team Four Corners match, the teams should always be units. I liked both partner vs. partner sequences, but they still should never have happened. Next, why have Davis blade off camera, yet show the blood? Bob and Dutch didn't even say how Davis got busted open. Did Fuller or Golden post him? Did he just pull out a razor blade from his tights and do it for laughs? Did he slip on a banana peel? We never did find out for sure. Fuller and Golden looked much better working over Davis's cut than they would at Fire on the Mountain, by the way. And of course, there was the stupid finish. Not that I had anything against Gibson coming down, but we could have had a clean pin for either side first. If you want the Studs to go over, have them finish off Davis and throw him out of the ring or something before the Gibson run-in. If you want to have Davis and Scott pull the upset, have the Studs throw a tantrum and attack them after the match, which leads to Robert's run-in. As it stands, Robert just handed his worst enemies five thousand dollars and bragging rights because he was too hotheaded to wait for Fire on the Mountain, and presumably pissed off two of his friends and fellow babyfaces in the process. Nice going, genius. No wonder Corny calls you and Ricky all those names. Finally, why did Scott not tag in until the very end? Was that just the way the match was booked, or were they possibly trying to hide an injury?
  7. At least I could figure out who everyone was here except for Solar and Super Astro. Couldn't they have worn different color masks or had "Solar" and "Super Astro" on their tights? I now realize that my problem with trios goes beyond not knowing who the workers are. Their structure just doesn't do a thing for me. In the first fall, the tecnicos dominated and the rudos were too dumb to come in out of the rain. The second fall saw the opposite; the rudos suddenly looked like the most together team in the world, while Solar and Astro did nothing about Azreca's mask being ripped, which is supposedly the supreme humiliation for a luchador. At least they started shoving the refs around in the third fall; it's not something I advocate, but it at least showed that they cared. It seems like there's been a mask ripping (or at least a tease of one) in every AAA match I've seen on the set so far. Doesn't that cheapen the idea of the luchador losing his mask? I can understand wanting to do something to put your new company on the map, but making one of the most traumatic events that can happen to a masked guy into what seems to be almost a weekly occurrence doesn't quite seem like the way to do it. I liked the elimination style of the third fall and hope we see more of it. All of the guys on one team being pinned or submitting at once is not only formulaic, but it reinforces the fact that what we're seeing is a work. If one of my teammates was eliminated in a match like this, you can bet that I'd fight like hell to stay alive and take down as many of the opposition as I could while I was at it.
  8. I wasn't a fan of this. I know Corny wasn't ready for Bodies-Rock 'n' Roll yet, but he could have picked a better team than Fuller and Golden to put Ricky and Robert against for their first feud. Sure, Fuller's great on the stick (though I still prefer him as a face, oddly enough), but they're next to nothing in the ring, especially Golden, whom I've never seen the appeal of, either in the ring or on the mic. They're good cheaters, of course, but there's nothing else to them that makes them a legit threat here, like the teamwork and execution of the MX, the raw power of the Russians, or the craftiness of the Horsemen. Ricky and Robert went through the spots that drive the crowd nuts, and Ricky bled for good measure, but you get the feeling that one sustained offensive flurry would have put the Studs away. Fuller and Golden were much better beating Rock 'n' Roll down after the match than they were during it, and that just shouldn't be. The finish wasn't too bad, since they needed to extend this a few more weeks plus they wanted to make sure that the Studs were humiliated enough to attack Rock 'n' Roll after the match. The thing that saved this was the commentary of Les Thatcher. He gave detailed histories of all four men in the match, talked about their fiamilies' backgrounds in the sport, and during the match he educated the viewers on many of the little things that make a good tag team. He knew how to get in and get out quickly, and how to hype this match and the upcoming matches on the card without getting carried away with himself. I remember loving him on the SMW set, and now that I've heard him in the context of the other color guys in the U.S. this year, I'd have to put him a strong number two behind Jesse, with a definite chance to move up as I hear more of both. He blows away Corey Maclin for damn sure; I hesitate to compare him and Heenan because they approach the job a hundred and eighty degrees differently. He needs a better play-by-play guy than Phil Rainey, though. I guess Caudle was either on vacation or had business to take care of for Senator Helms. The crowd was nuts for Rock 'n' Roll, and I think that helped them raise their level of performance. Maybe it was best that they weren't fighting the Bodies here, because no other team would have looked very good under the circumstances. I know the ref isn't supposed to see everything in matches like this, but to miss a pin because he's out on the floor trying to walk Ricky back to his corner? That's so ridiculous it's almost business-exposing. If you're going to look like an idiot, ref, at least do it in the ring. And shame on whoever thought of the spot in the first place.
  9. I don't know what the complaint about restholds is all about. The only hold used that I would term a pure resthold was Rude's nervehold toward the end. All the other chinlocks RUde used were done in self-defense to keep Sasaki off of his back (literally) and all of Sasaki's holds were either straight submission holds or, in the case of the double chinlock, a weardown hold to hurt Rude's back and neck further. There was very little "resting" in those holds. I don't think the Japanese truly appreciated Rude's schtick. Not just the opening spiel and the posing, but the prematch primping with Madusa. American referees know to ignore it, that Rude will do what he needs to and eventually get down to business. The Japanese aren't used to guys who don't lock up right away when the bell rings or within a few seconds of a break. There are times when you can see the referee actively urging the wrestlers to tie up, which American refs do much less often. I think Ssaki was a much better fir for Rude as an opponent; he a non-painted, more talented version of Warrior, a muscleman whose power style allows Rude to bump and pose when he needs to and still have a decent match. I liked how they continued the story of Rude's injured back and made it a focal point. WCW tends to use it mostly to set up Rude not being able to bump and grind; here, it's played much more seriously. Nice to see Dusty and the Cowboy at ringside, but seriously, Bill, a pink shirt? I liked Sasaki pointing to his own bicep after he threw Rude down at the beginning. Proof positive that the Japanese aren't without showmanship as we know it. I don't think this match went too long, either. You could have cut a little of the posing and the prematch falderol, but the body of the bout was just as long as it needed to be. They don't do ten-minute heavyweight sprints in Japan too often. It'll be interesting to see Rude-Chono, but Rude-Muta would have been something to see as well.
  10. The last part of this was really hot with all the attempted pinfall reversals, and I really liked Yoshida's fighting spirit. She knew she was the underdog, but she never gave up and battled Toyota to the very end. Speaking of which, nice way to pull the JOCS out of your hat, Manami. Yoshida seemed to be bleeding from the mouth after the match, and she sold the back of her neck a lot more intensely than I recall most girls doing after taking the JOCS. That brings me to my pet peeve: I really liked the legwork done by Yoshida early in the bout. The problem is, it led to absolute zip. Manami sold it for about five seconds once or twice, but was doing bridges, cartwheels, and her endless dropkicks as if nothing had ever happened. I know that this is par for the course where she's concerned, but the camera caught her not really selling this time, which made it stand out. A few screams and a face-scrunch or two was all we got. She even barely sold her entire lower body getting whacked into the railing. Did they do matwork early in AJW bouts because they believed that that's what the crowd wanted? If so, they missed the boat, because it makes the first ten minutes of each match seem like a waste of time unless Aja or Bull, who work their own way regardless, are in there. You could literally cut from the hot start to the finishing sequence of an AJW match and not miss a thing of consequence, which is a sad state of affairs when it comes to wrestling. It was nice that Yoshida got the respect of the crowd after the match due to the fight she put up during it. It reminds me of just how different Japanese crowds are from American ones.
  11. When I comment, what you see is what you get. I don't break down matches frame by frame, critiquing every move and how good it looks like some people do here. Not that that's a bad way to watch a match, but it's just not one I employ. Especially when I have a whole other set to go through after this one, I watch each bout once, let my first impressions stand, and move on to the next bout. I don't defend or explain my comments much, especially for something that's not from the WWF or WCW. Take them for what you think they're worth.
  12. Interesting that they booked the two semifinal losers in the tournament as a team and gave them a shot at the Steiners. I guess it's supposed to be a sort of consolation prize. Muta and Ssaski were great here, and I liked most of the same spots that everyone else did. They worked well as a team and didn't let the Steiners push them around. They were also good with the subtle heel stuff, like Muta pushing on Sasaki's shoulders to give him extra leverage in the Boston crab. So were Rick and Scotty with the switch in the Boston crab. Rick didn't seem to like having his posing and barking mocked by Muta, but he wisely chose not to try to take it out on him during the match. The finish was unnecessarily confusing. I love a good bonzo gonzo finish, but this one took so long that I not only lost track of who was legal in the ring, I forgot who was pinned until I saw Mura lying on the canvas. It's not enough to take away from the rest of the match, but it's something I could have lived without. I was paying attention to what was going on in the ring, so I didn't see Dusty and Watts. As a matter of fact, I haven't seen Watts at either G-1 match involving WCW talent, though I saw Dusty during the Rude-Shinya match.
  13. This wasn't bad. Both guys worked hard, and though I would have preferred some type of finish, I understand that they wanted to build this into a lasting feud, so I'm not complaining. It seems like they wanted Manny to be the top heel here, since he was the one going beyond the pale by beating up announcers and the like. So Webb thought he was Elvis after this, huh? Who was booking this, and what on earth were they high on? Sam Houston as the Midnight Rider? Boy, he really took that stuff about being Dusty's protégé to heart, didn't he? What feud could he have possibly been in that got hot enough for him to dust off that gimmick? Nice to hear Gary Hart's name again, and he seems to be up to some of his old tricks. I liked Price and Tatum a lot; there's a definite Frick and Frack vibe to them that should make them quite an entertaining pair on commentary and in the ring. I actually would have preferred just the two of them on commentary; they don't need a straight man, especially a substitute straight man. It was nice of them to plug King's radio show, which they (in particular) didn't have to do. I also liked their slightly backhanded comments about Fernandez; it seems like they're trying to be equal opportunity offenders who will back up their mouths against everyone. I sure hope the Bruiser Brody references were mistakes due to Brody Powers (whoever he is) having a similar name. Given what I've heard about this promotion, though, it wouldn't shock me that they were deliberately planned, to what possible end I don't know. For a second when Price and Tatum referenced Putski, I thought they meant Ivan, what with Fernandez and Reed being the match I was watching. Was beating up announcers supposed to be part of Fernandez's M.O. going forward? He sure seemed like he was threatening King as the segment ended. By the way, I was surprised to see that Global had syndicated TV at this time; this match was taped from a station in Michigan.
  14. I have no interest in anything past the mid-nineties, so I won't be checking out any of the matches you're talking about, at least I don't think so. I base my opinion of Shinya purely on what I've seen in the yearbooks so far, and what I've mostly seen is a fatass who throws nice kicks. If he was in North America, he'd be doing jobs left and right for everyone on the roster of the Big Two, face or heel, regardless of how good he looks in his home country. He may develop into a better worker later on, but unless he's better by '95 or so, I'll never see it and don't really care to. For now, I emphatically stand by my opinion. I've read the name Brie Bella here and there in various threads, but again I have no interest in the current product, so I don't care how good or bad she is.
  15. Rude's DDT certainly has company in the "most devastating move ever from the top rope" contest after what I just saw. What made it more impressive is that Benoit did it off a superplex try from Liger, not only blocking that move, but hitting a more devastating one in its place. Absolutely phenomenal. Second-best spot of the match goes to Liger's wicked baseball slide, which I actually wish Benoit would have sold for a little longer. I've never seen that move snap the back of someone's head off the railing before. If you cut this match in half and make it two separate bouts, the first half would be extremely disappointing and the second half would be in the top ten for Match of the Year. I know that New Japan juniors matches usually start slow with the matwork, but it usually feels more energetic than that. Luckily, they turned it up several hundred notches in the last eight minutes or so. Maybe they didn't want to accidentally outshine the G-1 final, which don't forget was for the NWA World title this year. I'm not sure if Benoit's the best wrestler in the world at this point, but he's improved by leaps and bounds this year, and I'm starting to see why he'd be regarded as such a stellar worker in the not-too distant future. Nice to see him get a clean win over Liger, which I think he's only done once or twice before.
  16. First of all, why Rude didn't adopt that top-rope DDT as a finisher I don't know. Madusa's referee distraction set it up well, and it looked about as devastating as any top-rope move I've seen. He didn't need the knee afterward; Shinya was going nowhere. I might be blind, but I didn't see a styles clash here at all. In fact, I thought Rude wrestled a much better match than Shinya did. Shinya's overreliance on kicks isn't nearly as noitceable when he's wrestling a native, since most of them use kicks liberally as well. But when he's in there with someone who uses varied offense like Rude did here, he's exposed as a one-move wonder, only different from non-athletic slugs like the Missing Link and George Steele based on the move he uses. Maybe that's a bit harsh, but Rude works circles around him here. So does Madusa, for that matter. (By the way, Madusa used to wrestle in Japan, which may be why they allowed her at ringside. It's similar to when Freddie Blassie would occasionally be allowed to second an American when he was managing; he was someone that the Japanese fans already knew and held in high regard.) I liked the fact that Rude and Madusa didn't change the way they worked, although I wonder if Rude would have made the effort to change if he'd been getting the belt and thus coming back at least semi-regularly instead of losing to Chono in the finals. Rude looked a little hesitant going to the top at times, but I thought it was good strategy against the bigger Shinya. He does it more often in WCW than he did in the WWF, so it really doesn't seem all that strange now. I wish we'd seen Rude's prematch spiel here, but I think we're getting it in at least one of his other two Japanese matches, so I won't complain. Nice to see Dusty at ringside. Hope he was finally able to enjoy his cervezas in piece!
  17. I wasn't aware of that, AJ. Could someone edit the thread title to reflect this? I don't think it was mentioned in the clip either. If it was, I missed it.
  18. It seemed like they really wanted to go hardcore at first, then changed their minds and decided to work a regular match until Matsunaga nailed Pogo with the chair. This really made the one Headhunter's blade job sort of gratuitous. I'm not sure why Pogo bled either, unless it's because he's Pogo and that's what he does. Guys the size of the Headhunters doing moonsaults impresses me. I liked how they told the tension story between Pogo and Matsunaga. It was there, but they didn't beat us over the head with it constantly. Even after the match, the misunderstanding between the two didn't lead to a brawl or an overly dramatic turn. though I'm sure they won't be exchanging Easter baskets either. My favorite part was half the roster holding Pogo down while one of them mounted him and slapped his face to get him to calm down. Wasn't Victor Quinones a partner down in Puerto Rico? I've heard the name somewhere before, but I can't place it.
  19. I'm aware of what you're referring to, Pete, but I seem to recall that Lawler wasn't the biggest ECW fan in real life, either. Of course, that didn't stop him from taking their money, just like it didn't stop Corny.
  20. I got easily confused as to which guy was which, and that didn't exactly help my viewing experience. The power moves were nice but I would have preferred some more scoring. That full nelson-type hold that got the submission was rugged-looking. Even though I couldn't tell them apart, both guys looked good enough to have at least a decent future ahead of them.
  21. This was almost a squash for Vrij, as he knocked Han around the ring at will until the very end. It was when he tried to wrestle that Han got the advantage, and it was a hold that spelled his downfall, as Han was two-thirds of a point away from a knockout loss when he blocked a Vrij kick and turned it into an anklelock for the win as the crowd went nuts. Vrij threw one of the best backfists I've ever seen at one point. It caught Han behind the ear, and he sold it beautifully. He was never quite in his right mind for the rest of the bout, even though he pulled out the win.
  22. This match is a fine example of why I judge the whole presentation when it comes to wrestling matches, not just the in-ring action. Pete may be right about how hot this match would be if you put it at the MSC, but for an outdoor show in Philly commentated by a couple of dipsticks who sounded like they were calling the matches from their bedroom and couldn't figure out which one was supposed to be the face and which one the heel, this wasn't very good. Again, I'm reminded of what a total hypocrite Lawler was when he talked about how ECW was terrible and a poor excuse for wrestling. I suppose that wasn't you hammering Eddie with garbage cans and trying to throw him over chain-link fences, huh, Kingfish? I know that his matches with Jeff and the Moondogs were similar, but there was more of a sense that he was fighting back to save his life and career, rather than just brawling all over the building because that's how the match was booked. Maybe the commentary had something to do with that; if there was a story behind this match, these jokers didn't tell it. Even those of us who have followed this feud in Memphis would have liked to be reminded of the hatred between these two, and we weren't. A few passing references to it among thirteen minutes of grade school bickering means nothing. These could have been any two random schmucks fighting in the stands for all it mattered to the announcers and fans, none of whom really seemed into this whatsoever. About the only spot I liked was Lawler piledriving Stately Wayne Manor, whom I read from time to time in some of the non-Apter mags I used to get. Was the title referred to the Unified title, or was there some other alphabet soup belt on the line that we've probably never heard of? You can say a lot about this match, but Eddie went above and beyond the call juicing after a piledriver. I've never seen that done before. Did this match ever have an official finish? Seems to me that it would be a double DQ or a double countout, but I guess the world will never know for sure.
  23. If you'd just been lowered on a bungee cord after being let out of a cage, you'd see the ground in 3D too! Honestly, what was that? It was nothing resembling a wrestling match, that's for sure. There was hardly any action that I could see, and the cage they fought in reminded me of the shark cage that I once saw Chief Jay Strongbow and Bulldog Don Kent fight in on the Wrestling Gold DVDs. That match wasn't exactly the most physical ever booked, but it had a ton more action than this. Even the promos were bizarre. We had Mike Davis talking about moonrocks, some stuff about a girl named Alexis, a brief mention of Skandor Akbar, and Manny Fernandez being about the most argumentative heel commentator ever and taking David Webb right down the chute with him. Then after the match, Manny gave Chaz a hard time, not on his own behalf, but on Dane's. All the while, it didn't seem like there's a scratch on anybody, and I can't help but think how far Dallas has fallen on the wrestling totem pole. From the Von Erichs and the Freebirds and the Dynamic Duo to this mess. They're not even calling the Sportatorium the Global Dome anymore. I was going to say that maybe the Fernandez-Reed match will be better than this, but 1) How could it not be? and 2) How can this honestly be called a match, special referee named Kevin or not?
  24. Wow, that late, huh? Thanks, Jingus!
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