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[1997-03-24-WWF-Raw] Owen Hart & Davey Boy Smith vs Headbangers
dawho5 replied to Loss's topic in March 1997
Owen and Davey finally have their big blowup. One odd thing was somehow they worked the match with Owen and Davey working as the de facto babyfaces and they worked the tag team disintegrating into the comeback. Really good stuff there for sure. -
WCW's creative process has always been a little suspect. I suppose we should just be glad for the good stuff we did get.
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[1997-03-23-WWF-Wrestlemania XIII] The Undertaker vs Sid
dawho5 replied to Loss's topic in March 1997
That right there, yup. Also, the only other standout things about this match were Sid busting out the tombstone reversal and the WWF undercutting Undertaker's title win. -
Bret is great here. Both in his calling out of Shawn and stooging for Sid.
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[1997-03-17-WCW-Nitro] Rick & Scott Steiner vs Harlem Heat
dawho5 replied to Loss's topic in March 1997
It was really nice to see Luger/Giant coming in for backup of WCW given their recent storyline leadership of team WCW. Then we get the guy we've all been waiting for, the Stinger! Honestly, they could have done the Stinger/Hogan match at 97 and probably should have given the reaction this got. -
[1997-03-17-WCW-Nitro] Hulk Hogan and Dennis Rodman vignette / Wolfpac promo
dawho5 replied to Loss's topic in March 1997
I didn't care for this. Hogan/Rodman were sorta just saying nonsense that sounded "cool." -
DDP chasing Savage to the back is yet another awesome step in his elevation. Really great segment and intense promo from DDP.
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Really great way to set up WM13. Bret's profanity-filled promo was indeed a shock. What was Shawn doing out there again?
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This was awful. I honestly don't get the love for Shawn at this point.
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Bret's "turning heel" promos are so much better than his babyface promos. I really like how he's not making drastic changes, just tweaking things.
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Another death knell for the "wCW didn't push Benoit" story. How was he the last guy on his team if he was so undervalued? The ending angle is indeed amazing, as is the big Luger comeback. You don't have to love Lex Luger, but the guy was over as Hell and the crowd eat it up every tiem he makes a big comeback or racks somebody.
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If I'm honest this isn't the nWo's best work. They are going more for "cool" than "heel" at this point and I think that is part of where the problems start.
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[1997-03-16-WCW-Uncensored] Eddy Guerrero vs Dean Malenko (No DQ)
dawho5 replied to Loss's topic in March 1997
I don't know why WCW didn't put Dean in more heated feuds. This is really good, bordering on great. Dean is really at his best in intense feuds. -
Awesome angle, I wonder if they shouldn't have maybe done it on a Nitro though.
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[1997-03-10-WWF-Raw] Jerry Lawler and Paul Heyman: The Great Debate
dawho5 replied to Loss's topic in March 1997
This was all kinds of amazing. Lawler and Heyman are both incredible at this kind of "is it worked or is it shoot" thing that happens all the time now. Not usually this good though. -
[1997-03-10-WWF-Raw] Ken Shamrock, Steve Austin and Bret Hart
dawho5 replied to Loss's topic in March 1997
I thought the beginning of Bret's heel turn proper here was really good. Whiny, but not in any way backing down from any backlash to it. -
This is indeed a big turnaround. It seems the PG-13 era is pretty well dead right here.
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Very good group promo. The highlight for me was everyone forgetting who DDP was, then Hogan asking the mute-for-months Sting just for comedic effect.
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[1997-03-10-WCW-Nitro] Roddy Piper and the Four Horsemen
dawho5 replied to Loss's topic in March 1997
I get that Piper was pissed his idea didn't work. I don't get why. He has to know the business well enough to know that the fans want to see over workers regardless of whatever their real world credentials may or may not be. What I wonder is if WCW's booking team knew outright before sending him out that he would go on a tirade like this and had the Horsemen at the ready to cut him off. And why they didn't pull the trigger sooner. -
[1997-03-10-WCW-Nitro] Hulk Hogan and Dennis Rodman intro
dawho5 replied to Loss's topic in March 1997
In terms of popularity I get it. The idea that Rodman could swing things in the nWo's favor as far as winning a wrestling match is and always was a reach though. -
You forget that Davey and Owen can still go like this when you watch most of their TV matches. Or a lot of their PPV matches. I think that's why it stood out so much. You just didn't see guys in the WWF doing this kind of thing at all. Much less on Raw. Super fun match that kind of walks the line between telling a story and being a bit of a spotfest.
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I don't remember enough of my two German classes to know what he said exactly. doesn't matter, very cool promo.
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Shawn catching strays here warms my heart. Great promo from Austin with a final line that most working class folks (myself included) can absolutely get behind.