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I love the storytelling aspects of wrestling too. Believe it or not that Tully Magnum TA cage match is one of my favorite matches of all time. I just don't think I'm totally mature in my wrestling viewing, there is still a lot for me to learn and a lot for me to watch. I don't claim that I know it all or anything like that. I think many of you have opened my eyes to different things and I appreciate that.
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Danny interviews Ian Riccaboni of the Montser Factory and ROH about the new TV deal, NJPW in Toronto and Philly, Monster Factory, early days of the internet and other topics http://shoutengine.com/GetintheRing/get-in-the-ring-52915-ian-riccaboni-interview-9997
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I don't think you come off harsh at all. I need a wakeup call. I do agree that Slaughter is a better candidate than Kane any day of the week. I like to go back and watch old matches. This is how I came to what is now is a crazy conclusion. I was watching old matches of his and really came to enjoy him. If I enjoyed Kane's style then I would enjoy many others that cane before him. I was just asking if Kane had a good case and bringing up points
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OK goc I agree with that point. If I'm making a true argument for Kane then I shouldn't have a problem watching those type of matches. Loss you made some great points about Kane's role and how he as a worker wasn't designed to have those blow away matches. Was a wrestler like Dick Murdoch, Taker or even Stan Hansen to a degree designed to have blow away matches? No but, they absolutely did have those blow away matches. Kane never had that one blow away match. I think though the way they positioned him and always keeping him strong is a good deal for discussion. Goc, I do fall into trap and probably wrongly so. I need to open my eyes to more of this stuff. I actually watched the world class stuff on the network and thought it was some of the best storytelling I've ever seen. I bought the Mid South DVD and was surprised to see how over these guys were. So in those ways my eyes are opened but in the way of work rate I absolutely think Most of today's workers are better. Part of it is the booking of today and part of it is that they do moves that nobody imagined they would do. Maybe somebody like a Red Basteen or a Lou Thez were ahead of their time but I think the in ring work is a better but it's more dependent on what they're asked to do now compared to then
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Yeah you're right. Wrestling does have rewatch value. I just have trouble placing myself in that timeframe and judging whether it was a good match in that time period. To me I'm used to the spotfest of today and conditioned to enjoy those type of matches. I'm not saying I don't like older wrestling because I love the Freebirds vs Von Erichs and stuff from earlier eras. It's just hard for me to place myself in that timeframe
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Dylan you make some good points. See I'm coming at it from a 19 year old who has had compared to you a limited exposure to wrestling. I haven't seen the Pateras or the Dundees of the world to make a good assumption on them. I can listen to all the podcasts and watch all the footage and do all the research I want and I would have a slanted view based on what I've seen. I can acknowledge that these guys were cornerstones of our business and were influences but I feel like I can't truly comment on their work. That's why I don't have a vote
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I'm not justifying Kane as a legitimate candidate because of the reasons stated here but Kane has had a good career whether y'all like it or not. I know I just made Dylan Hales throw up with even the slightest thought of Kane going in but he's a good not great modern candidate
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Some of you are making really good points. How in the hell is Batista not in this HOF? Was a consistent draw and put on good matches.
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Yeah I agree there are a lot more deserving candidates but it's not fair for me to judge older candidates because I didn't live through those eras. I lived through the modern era and Kane is a constant. Do I think he's the best candidate? Hell no bit do I think he doesn't get the respect he deserves? Yes
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I'd say in working ability and call me crazy yes. You can make a work rate case for Kane
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I'm a younger wrestling fan so I can't get behind a Koloff or a Slaughter legitimately because I haven't watched enough. I cone from the modern era so this is a candidate I can get behind. More than an Edge or a Brock Leanar because the length of time on top is there and the work rate is there. For modern candidates besides a Randy Orton, Kane is one if the more legit ones
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That's fair but I think he's a lot better candidate than an Edge or a Brock.
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I'm not saying it's a total home run. Initially I said no but digging deeper into his career he was always a gatekeeper to your main event. Brock can't even touch the time Kane's been on top. Who's been a constant in the upper mid card and main event other than Kane? Big Show has had more roller coaster pushes than anybody. Maybe Edge but he didn't get on top till 2005. Kane was always on top or near the top from 1997 on
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You have to look deeper into the man's career to come to this conclusion. I'm not saying he's a home run or anything but by a criteria of what WWE has been over the past 15 years he's a better modern candidate than a Brock Lesnar
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Call me crazy but When you think about big men in the WWE over the past 20 years and since 1999 Kane has been the best big man they've had. You blindly look at the man's body of work and accomplishments and he's a sure fire WWE and Observer Hall of Famer. You analyze it, he's a good worker, has the accomplishments that many others do not have, been on top or near the top for all of that time and he's delivered in big spots. The reason why they keep putting him in the main event picture is because of his reliability and his ability to deliver. Think about it and compare him to even the Big Show and you'll see that Kane has a better overall resume than any other big man besides taker over the last 15 years.
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I don't think this has been done but I want to battle the top two promotions in the world. Who will make this card, and what would be the results? Here's what I came up with: 1) Opening 10 man tag Big Daddy Yum Yum, Hiroyoshi Tenzan, Satoshi Kojima, Captain New Japan, Yuji Nagata vs Titus O'Niell, Darren Young, Goldust, Curtis Axel, Damien Sandow Team NJPW over in 8:15 2) Watanabe, Yohei Komatsu, Show Tanaka vs Blake and Murphy and Jack Swagger Team WWE over in 9:26 3) Minoru Suzuki vs Cesaro Cesaro over in 11:24 4) Usos vs Young Bucks vs Time Splitters vs Lucha Dragons Bucks over in 15:32 5) Hiroki Goto, Togi Makabe and Tomiaki Honma vs Dolph Ziggler, Barrett, Dean Ambrose Team NJPW wins in 14:16 6) Seth Rollins vs Kota Ibushi Rollins over in 16:45 7) Shinsuke Nakamura and Tomohiro Ishii vs Bray Wyatt and Luke Harper Nakamura over in 13:20 8) Randy Orton vs Kazuchika Okada Orton over in 18:45 9) John Cena vs Hiroshi Tanahashi Tanahashi over in 21:00 10) Katsyutori Shibata vs Brock Lesnar Lesnar over in 14:35
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Here's my show with Pete from PWO https://www.dropbox.com/s/hx66kvtmvc5na41/T037_20150523.mp3?dl=0 http://shoutengine.com/GetintheRing/get-in-the-ring-52215-9635
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This sucks because they had cards that people actually care about in which hasn't happened in at least 2 years
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Hi I'm looking for guests for my podcasts. I host Get in the Ring on Montgomery County Community College's internet radio station Montco Radio on Fridays from 1-3PM. The station's phone number is 215-619-7366 and my Skype is at dkookypunk43. I'm looking for guests to talk about current and classic wrestling topics, lists and discussions. I am flexible and can do recordings at your convenience. Thanks for reading this.
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Hey guys, I'm Danny Kuchler and I'm the host of Get in the Ring on Montgomery County Community College's internet radio station Montco Radio on Fridays from 1-3PM. Along with that I wanted to do roundtable type shows about current and classic wrestling that I want to extend the invite to people on the board. I've had Dylan Hales, Mike Sempervive, John Pollock, Bill Apter and others on my show. I also want feedback on the show and try to improve on what I'm doing. Thanks and here is a link to the show www.shoutengine.com/GetintheRing
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