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I really hope this is just a lame attempt at comedy.
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I do, lol Are we forgetting Brock had an elite two years and then the Eddie match? It's not just his return stuff. Do I think he should've been rated this highly? No. But I think the outrage of him staying on at this point is a little ridiculous.
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Edge - I know I shouldn't like him, but I love him. Peak Edge is awesome.
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I'm cool with Breaks finishing where he did because it's the best he was going to do. WoS was the least watched area of viewing for this project besides Golden Era stuff. I'm already kicking myself over not watching more WoS because for whatever reason, I really enjoy it. Breaks was the only guy that ranked for me from WoS. Saint was close and I wanted to give a lot of guys closer looks and just never had time. Breaks is just perfect. I got lost in his matches, especially his series with Saint. I binged him pretty early on and felt a hole once I was done with his YouTube playlist. Amazing worker. So good at what he did. Happy with where he finished.
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I don't see Steamboat ranking at 14. Wouldn't complain if he did, but I don't see that as a possibility.
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Liger? Taue? Akiyama?
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Bob Sapp vs Minotauro Nogueira would be one of the best wrestling matches ever. I've never agreed more with something or someone on PWO.
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Han made my list but I came very close to not including him. I appreciate what he does, but compared to the three other shoot style guys that made my list - Anjoh, Tamura, and Otsuka, I don't think Han is anywhere near as compelling as them. Han is a great wrestler, which is why I ended up including him, and I actually ended up ranking him ahead of Otsuka, but by no means will I ever be a big Han supporter. He's fine, at times I've gotten really into his work, but he was someone that just by comparison almost fell off my list. I had Joe at 36. In his prime, at his absolute peak, I don't know if there's ever been anyone better besides Kobashi, Mochizuki, and maybe Hansen at their greatest. I think that highly of Joe. The 12/11/05 performance vs. Styles is one of the best matches I've ever seen and Joe is an absolute machine in that match. His 2005 produces a bunch of matches like that. I'm completely OK with his overall ranking. Well deserved. Unrelated, but Bret needs to drop soon. Don't like the fact that he's hung on this long.
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Han rapidly descended on my ballot because of Anjoh and Tamura. Glad Tamura ranked, but he should've placed better than Han.
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Super glad Togo did as well as he did. Alan's summary is perfect for him. Well deserved.
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Hogan is better than Jericho. And Angle. lol Well, he's better than Jericho. But not by much.
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You weren't asking me but Doc almost made it on my list simply for his 94-95 run. He's so bad in WCW that in my mind, I just couldn't rank him. I guess it's pretty easy to have ****3/4-***** when you're wrestling Kobashi and Kawada in their prime. That's the way I look at Doc.
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Scorp totally deserves to be in the Top 100. I won't say where I feel he should rank, but I'm pumped that he ended up where he did. Someone that I desperately want to see live before he calls it quits. Love his match with Claudio from 2008. Everyone should go seek it out.
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Backlund in BattleArts made me want to give the guy a deeper look but I never got around to it. Fwiw, his BatBat run is a blast.
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Who are the Top 10 CHOPPERS of all time?
InYourCase replied to JerryvonKramer's topic in Pro Wrestling
Roddy and Eddie Edwards have disgusting chops. Live, they're insane. Roddy gets off on it. Ishii's throat chops are behind Kobashi's machine gun chops as my favorite. I give the edge to Kobashi because he built compelling matches around chops, but Ishii targeting the throat is fantastic -
For what it's worth, Angle vs. Undertaker from No Way Out 2006 is one of my favorite WWE matches ever and something totally different from what Taker normally did. If he had more matches like that, he would've had a shot at my list.
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Speak for yourself, I loved the Shibata match and enjoyed the Goto matches (with Goto being my least favourite wrestler of all time). If anything I find it people severely overrate his big matches as all time classics-not that they're not great, but clearly a level or two below that. He's been an amazing big match performer for 6-7 years now, that's more than enough and I got my money's worth any time he was in a non-squash singles match (your average New Japan Cup/G1 match). Sure, Nakamura doesn't bring much to house show tags, but neither does Tanahashi. Anyway I'll end this before it turns into a gigantic rant of why Okada sucks. We will forever disagree on Okada and I'm okay with that. Nak, for whatever reason, just doesn't scream that he needs to be on my list. A lot of that is that Tanahashi has been so much better for longer. Sans the first Dome match with Takayama, little Nakamura doesn't do anything for me. Tanahashi had the 2007 stuff with Goto and Nagata and since then, he's been a more consistent and better overall performer than Nakamura.
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Top 100 (Predictions, regrets, how many fallen soldiers do you have?, etc..)
InYourCase replied to Grimmas's topic in 2016
Genki Horiguchi (100) Ryo Saito (84) Milano Collection A.T. (96) Spike Dudley (99) Makoto Hashi (98) Dragon Kid (77) Little Gudio (90) Masato Yoshino (45) YAMATO (80) Susumu Yokosuka (31) Mark Briscoe (58) Akira Tozawa (69) Matt Sydal (86) Satoshi Kojima (75) Bill Goldberg (93) Naomichi Marufuji (66) Shingo Takagi (21) Roderick Strong (88) Yoji Anjoh (64) Tomohiro Ishii (44) Kota Ibushi (72) Daisuke Sekimoto (34) CIMA (37) Jay Briscoe (46) Masaaki Mochizuki (10) Yoshinari Ogawa (70) Edge (91) TAKA Michinoku (79) Jeff Hardy (61) Kevin Owens (94) Austin Aries (39) Masato Tanaka (40) Kensuke Sasaki (48) Yuji Nagata (56) Yoshiaki Yatsu (73) Sabu (92) Tsuyoshi Kikuchi (85) Kazuchika Okada (82) Koji Kanemoto (49) Minoru Suzuki (47) Alexander Otsuka (97) KENTA (13) Masa Fuchi (67) Low Ki (68) Sean Waltman (59) Akira Maeda (71) Chris Hero (33) Carlos Colon (52) Nearly half of my list is gone as we hit the Top 100. 48, to be exact. Crazy looking at some of the names that have been left off. I just don't see how KENTA, Hero, Waltman, or Colon could be left off but whatever. -
In the same boat. Really should've ranked Colon higher because he sticks out as someone who really impressed me during this project. Real shame he didn't make the top 100.
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No one as of now from the Top 100 has hit my list. I projected Nakamura to be on my list, but after going through some of his early stuff, there was no way I could include him and I voted for Okada and Tanahashi was in my Top 20. Nak will benefit greatly if this is done 10 years from now. No one will look at his Power Struggle 2014 match with Shibata or his series with Goto from 2015. They'll see his peaks - the Ibushi matches, the Okada matches, the match with Zayn, the 2014 series with Tanahashi and the G1 Finals in 2015. His lows are so low, though. His lack of consistency really hurts him and maybe I'm crazy, but I look at him sort of like I look at Dusty. I may be off on that, I certainly haven't seen as much Dusty as most, but that's the sort of vibe I get. Nak's peak is higher, but Dusty at his best had to have a number of things line up. Nak's best matches are in big venues with hot crowds. He plays up to that and more power to him, but I don't see that as one of the 100 best. Tanahashi is better than him and has been for the past decade. Okada, in four years, has eclipsed Nakamura. Someone who might finish in my Top 150, but even that is a maybe. Like Ikeda, don't love him. Otsuka was the only BatBat guy that finished on my list. If Ikeda would've had a stronger run in NOAH, like an inverse of Hashi, who killed it in NOAH and then had a killer run in FUTEN, then he could've gotten on there, but his NOAH stuff kills that case. Destroyer doesn't do anything for me. Never will and I'm okay with that.
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Okay finally have some time to catch up on these things. Shingo finishing at 255 is just silly to me. He was my #21 and someone that I could've probably ranked higher. There was a part of me that wanted to put him over Misawa, but that was my bias getting in the way of things. To me, Shingo is perhaps the best offensive wrestler ever. No one makes his stuff look as brutal or intense as him. Wide array of suplexes, slams, and strikes that all look really good. I remember when the Mochizuki match was buzzing, people were criticizing his punches. Whatever. They look like Tenryu's. I like that. His heel work is top notch. One of the best heels in puro history. Just has such an unlikable presence about him that really shows up in his work when he's at his best. Elite peak. I believe that if Parv would've put CIMA through the BIGLAV system then he would've at least come close to ranking for him. I never got around to making a huge case for CIMA because I cut out nearly all Dragon System viewing for the last few months of GWE watching because I felt comfortable with all of the guys I was ranking. CIMA has two peaks. He was a prodigy. By 21 in MPro he had it figured out. Great bumping, selling, offense, and especially facials. That leads into his Toryumon run which I'm a big fan of. Behind Mochizuki as the best worker in Toryumon. Someone that would carry Magnum, Kanda, etc. to really good performances. Then, old man CIMA is the inverse. He keeps things simple and smooth. His 2014 run was awesome and he had a great tag team with Gamma of all people. His December 2015 match was unreal. ****1/2 and one of those matches that I personally think transcends the Dragon System style but who knows. Mochizuki was my #10, glad to see Alan have him even higher. He might have gone up if I would've devoted more time to Toryumon because as soon as GWE ended, I went back to binging on Toryumon and Mochizuki has been outstanding. 2011 was his best year and one of the single best in-ring years I've ever seen. He's constantly in conversation for Most Outstanding. He's an elite worker. Someone who has "intangibles" shooting through the roof. I think for a majority of this site, CIMA has the stronger case because he works a simpler style that I could see some people on here really liking, but Mochizuki is everything I want from a wrestler. Finished ahead of Flair, Misawa, Akiyama, etc. I believe this means no DG wrestler will be in the Top 100. Disappointing, but something that will more than likely change 10 years from now.
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Shocked to see anyone vote Shingo higher than me. I had him at #21. I guess if anyone was going to do it, it'd be Alan. The sad thing is this probably means Mochizuki is fast approaching...
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The wackiness doesn't bother me because we're still in the 300s. If Alberto Del Rio ends up at like #75 on the big list, then I'll have a problem.
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R.I.P Shingo and his ducks. Hello, Genki Horiguchi.