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Ichiro is fluent in English and Spanish and everyone around baseball knows it. He only uses a translator when talking to the media, because he doesn't want his words misconstrued. He's apparently a really funny guy and everyone around baseball loves him. Seriously, the sports media is based on jumping on any little bit of controversy. He uses a translator to make sure he controls his message.

You must hate Punk's guts. McGregor is truly an elite fighter, we don't know if Punk is even average. Punk is bigger than McGregor, but that is probably the only advantage he would have.

Those definitely qualify as against the grain. I think you're holding how Rude shaved the stache at the end of 1992 pretty heavily against him. The last 3-4 months of Rude's WCW 1992 weren't strong though. I think Rude's highs in 92 are very high, but not to the level where I think it is an all-time year in pro wrestling. To really go against the internet grain, I'd rather watch all of HHH's 2000 than all of Rude's 1992. I'd rather watch Rude's best matches from 92, but not all of it.

I started off thinking, this guy right here has the right idea...then you just had to go and make me think you are a crazy person. For what it is worth, if I had the choice between watching a random Misawa, Kawada, Kobashi, Taue, or Jumbo match, Misawa is the last person I'd pick. I recognize his greatness, but I find him to be the least entertaining of the big name All Japan guys of his era. Speaking of All Japan, I didn't submit a Tag Team GWE ballot, but if I did Kobashi and Kikuchi may have been #1. I think they are the best babyface tag team of all time.

I fully support this opinion. Sleazy Johnny Curtis in NXT was a gimmick that had legs. We all know the dude who is just problematic enough that everyone looks at him like a creep, but not problematic enough for him to be arrested. Nobody likes that dude, but there is one of those dudes on every reality TV show. They cast those dudes over and over again for a reason, it's because everyone knows that guy and everyone hates his guts. Instead of bringing him up with a gimmick that would get real heat they make him a ballroom dancer. Speaking of dancers, I loved Disco Inferno. Sure it was a goofy comedy gimmick, but I loved how seriously took his role and all the subtle things he added to the character. The fact that he wasn't a complete jobber is what made it work. He was actually good enough to compete at the TV/US Championship level, but he was so busy dancing like an idiot that he'd make a stupid mistake and lose. The crusierweight title match at Bash at the Beach 96 is pretty much the story of Disco's career. Malenko is a wrestling machine who is super serious about taking systematically taking Disco apart, but Disco is game and puts up a good fight. Disco would occasionally hit a big move, but instead of covering Dean, he'd stop to fix his hair or to do a stupid dance. It was basically worked like Disco and Malenko were equals except that Dean took his craft seriously and Disco didn't.

Here is a list of all the people who have tested positive for banned substances since the UFC has gone to USADA testing. Note how short the half-lifes are for these substances, it is nearly impossible to catch someone dirty. https://www.the-newshub.com/combat/comprehensive-list-of-every-fail-since-the-ufc-introduced-usadas-new-drug-testing-policy

Dude, if we went by this rationale no one in the history of sports would ever be guilty. The drugs, doctors, and masking agents tend to be years ahead of the drug tests. If one out of eight isn't good enough, nothing is good enough.

I clicked on this thread to make this exact point. Tony Romo and John Cena are both legitimately great, but we'd much rather ridicule them for not being good enough. HOT TAKE ALERT: Tony Romo is better in every single way than Eli Manning, but Eli plays for a well run organization and Romo plays for the Cowboys.

Yeah, Brock's only real chance is to get to Hunt quickly, and overwhelm him with his strength. If Hunt is allowed to be patient and fend off Brock's takedowns, we may very well get an all-time knockout. I don't think Brock stands a chance in this fight if Hunt can keep the fight standing, but if he gets him down...who knows.

Of all the fighters on the planet, I don't know if there is a worse match up for Lesnar. Hun't takedown defense has become elite, he has a chin of granite, and he hits like a Mack truck. He's just a devastating puncher, who is the king of walkoff knockouts. When he connects, he just walks off because he knows his opponent is not getting up. With that said, this is going to be a really fun fight to watch.

How they choose his opponent is going to be really interesting. The Heavyweight division is clearly the worst division in MMA, but the UFC has essentially shaved all of the fat off of the division. Everyone in the UFC Heavyweight division with any name value would probably wreck Brock at this point. Brock wasn't exactly a technical marvel when he was UFC champion. He had really good takedowns, but his real advantage was that he was bigger and stronger than everyone else. Those days are over. He was an anomaly when he first started in the UFC, but you don't get to stay ahead of the curve forever. MMA changes very quickly, and they caught up with Brock before he retired. Taking 5 years off in MMA is a really long time, because the sport moves really fast. You can be the best fighter of all time today, and average in a year or two. Fedor went from best heavyweight fighter in history to losing to a middleweight basically overnight. The sport can and will pass you buy if you aren't constantly training, and constantly improving.

The thing about these stupid conspiracy theories is that they change to fit the argument. I know he wasn't fired, but it isn't common to hear people say he was. Sure, Vince didn't know that Savage was sleeping with his daughter in a locker room full of carnies looking to stab each other in the back. He only got put into the Hall of Fame after he died, because Vince is glad he's dead. Seriously, I don't really take any of it seriously.

Even worse than the people accusing Sullivan are those thinking Vince was involved. Because you know Mr McMahon is evil. Stuff like that just makes me question their basic mental capabilities. The Savage Stephanie stuff also always struck me as weird. The answer why Savage never came back is quite obvious if we look at the personalities involved. Savage was just one of the most eccentric and stubborn persons in wrestling and Vince is a control freak with abandonment issues. So once they had a falling out it made sense that it would take them a long time to patch things up. It also would have happend as I am sure we would have seen Macho Man on TV already had he not died. I never believed the Savage/Steph stuff, because Vince damn near cried on television thanking him and wishing him well when he left. As far as I know, Savage is the only person he ever gave that kind of send off. If Vince fired him for sleeping with his teenage daughter, I don't think he would have received such an obviously heartfelt sendoff.

Exactly why I like the idea of Patrick Clark being a Trump supporter. Being black is not one thing. There are black Trump supporters, black people who hate Obama, and black people who represent thousands of other things that are never represented in popular culture. There is no reason not to put those characters on television. The issue is in representation. Black people are often portrayed as a monolith, where every black person has the same values, interests, and opinions. How many times do you hear someone say. "The black community thinks..." or "That is what they're saying in the barbershops." If there is one thing that I've learned it is that there is no consensus opinion with any group about anything. The reason black barbershop conversations are often entertaining is because it is the one place where basically every black man goes. Those conversations are generally one person saying something someone else finds absurd and everyone in the shop adds their two cents. None of those conversations would work if black people all agreed on everything. There are interesting stories that have just plain never been told, because we always want black people to be one thing.

Isn't this a bit of an old-school kinda racist gimmick anyway ? The hot white woman and the heel black guy ? It's exactly what Doom were in the days with Woman. It's weird that Jay Lethal and Cedric Alexander have in a way done that in ROH with Taeler Hendrix and Veda Scott respectively but both are not blonde bombshells like a Lana for example and both never really generated racist heat. Times have changed, thankfully. I guess. Unless I underrate the "blonde bombshell" element of the whole picture. I think she'd essentially have to be America's sweetheart, and he'd have to be America's nightmare. Neither Jay Lethal or Cedric Alexander are hateable enough for it to work. That is why I said, Floyd Mayweather. We need the guy to be really good, really obnoxious, and really cocky about it. Then add on top of him being the biggest dickbag in the world, you'd have the outrageously over the top public display of affection with a girl that everyone in the audience wants to be with. That combination would lead to massive heel heat, it isn't just black guy and white girl, it is THAT black guy with THAT white girl.

I don't know if it looked bad or just looked like his moves were made to look cool more than they were made to actually hurt his opponents.

I always thought a surefire way to get a black wrestler over as a heel is to make him a cocky ass, and pair him with a pretty blonde woman. Think Floyd Mayweather, who would walk down to the ring and have a sloppy, uncomfortable makeout session with Lana every time he got into the ring. He'd have to be legitimately great in the ring, but if they found the right person he'd be over like gangbusters.

I think the two wrestlers I like the most, but generally hate all of their offense is Cena and Edge. I think both of those guys are somewhere between very good and excellent wrestlers, but all of their offense sucks ass.

I assumed Trees was talking about Kylie Jenner Supremebve I can't disagree with you at all but how would you feel about Bill Cosby ass dude who was also a wrestler? Would that effect the way you rate his work? He'd be like Bret Hart was a heel in the States and a face everywhere else. All the black fans would hate him, but I think a good majority of everyone else would cheer him. Patrick Clark is supposedly doing a black Trump supporter on NXT house shows and I think it is a great idea. I honestly think it is one of the smartest ideas they've ever had for a black wrestler. It is a gimmick that is not necessarily exclusively black, but being black puts a spin on it that takes it to a whole new place. The thing about racial discussions in general is that people try to act like equal means the same, when that isn't what it means at all. When black people say that they want to be treated equal, we mean we don't want to be treated differently based on our differences, not that there aren't differences. There are clear differences that can be acknowledged in smart, interesting ways. If you think of a white Trump supporter, you can make certain assumptions about how he feels about politics, race, business, and a multitude of other things. When you think of a black Trump supporter, there is literally a whole different set of assumptions you can make about him. I joke with one of my friends all the time about how you you should never ignore warning signs. There are certain traits that come up where you should never be surprised what comes out of someone's mouth. Patrick Clark, who just happens to be a smiling black dude with no facial hair, is the exact dude I'm talking about. George Carlin had a joke that went something like this, "If a man smiles all the time, he's probably selling something that doesn't work." That is the pretty much the way a good deal of black people would see Patrick Clark in his pro Trump gimmick. He could save a bus full of school children after it drove through a burning building only to fall down a well, and part of me would wonder if he's the one who set the fire and opened the well. He's the perfect storm of the dude you know who thinks he knows what is best for you, when his wife is cheating on him, his car just got repossessed, and his house is under foreclosure. He goes back to his old neighborhood and everyone looks at him like...

Yeah, in my experience as a black person it is that the whole "acting/talking white" thing is way overplayed. I'm from a fairly rough area(I lived next door to a guy who killed a couple people) and I don't think anyone said anything like that as anything other than a joke. I was at my aunt's funeral yesterday and a bunch of people got together afterwards. There was about as big of a mix of black people there as you'll ever see. We were at my Aunt's best friends house with lawyers, police, drug dealers, ministers, a college professor and everyone in between. A bunch of the guys were in the basement shooting pool and one of the most educated people in the room made fun a a local drug dealer for being a nerd for how long he was studying every shot. Nothing about this dude was a nerd except for how he played pool, but that is what was going on at the time so that was the joke. That is essentially every example of that nonsense that I've ever seen. Maybe people are super sensitive about that type of thing, but I've essentially been a book reading, grammar nazi, dork since I was a kid. Is that what people would bring up when we were snapping on each other? Yep, but do I think anyone ever thought I was less black because of it? Nope. I would never be perceived as a person on color, I don't necessarily consider myself one but I do have some Latino heritage. That being said most of my friends and acquaintances who are have openly talked about this as an issues at least at some point. While you are probably correct that it isn't that big of a deal because in the end you either are or you aren't black. I would say one thing thought that you are in a area that sounds very close knit, with people of many varying prosperity levels interacting but, could or would the community look at one of those lawyers differently if they suddenly started code-switching and stopped showing up for pool parties and other social events? I think the problem comes when people start "code switching" or whatever the fuck that is. My mom was stabbed twice in high school, my father has been to prison multiple times, one of my grandfathers was a number runner and the other was a notorious bar room brawler. My grandmother cut a woman in the neighborhood for flirting with my grandfather, and I could continue this family history for probably another 500 words. My parents got divorced when I was about 5 or 6, my mom has two masters degrees and is working on a Ph. D. We go back home and everyone treats us exactly the same, because we treat them exactly the same. My aunt died, and my cousin who is married to a college professor and lives 2500 miles away came home and all of our drug dealing, gang banging ass friends showed up to show their love. Those dudes are our friends since we were children, and it is because we never tried to front like we were any better than them. We come from the same place, know the same people, and been through a lot of the same things. They decided to live their lives one way and we decided to live ours another, but we never treated them any different and therefore they never treated us any different. We all actively root for each other, because that is what friends do. Look, I know some people who have committed some of the most heinous acts you can imagine. The entire world can turn their backs to them, but I won't because there is a part of me that could have very easily been in the same situation. I have more respect for them than I do for the Bill Cosby ass dudes who want to rant and rave about how they should live their lives. Most of the people I know who are in the street hard, understand that they chose a shitty life, but it isn't a life you can live halfway. I have a general belief that you get back what you put into relationships, so I try to show the love and respect I want back from the people I love and respect. It hasn't failed yet, and I'd bet a lot of the people complaining about being treated poorly probably treated others poorly. That is kind of how it works in my experience.

Yeah, in my experience as a black person it is that the whole "acting/talking white" thing is way overplayed. I'm from a fairly rough area(I lived next door to a guy who killed a couple people) and I don't think anyone said anything like that as anything other than a joke. I was at my aunt's funeral yesterday and a bunch of people got together afterwards. There was about as big of a mix of black people there as you'll ever see. We were at my Aunt's best friends house with lawyers, police, drug dealers, ministers, a college professor and everyone in between. A bunch of the guys were in the basement shooting pool and one of the most educated people in the room made fun a a local drug dealer for being a nerd for how long he was studying every shot. Nothing about this dude was a nerd except for how he played pool, but that is what was going on at the time so that was the joke. That is essentially every example of that nonsense that I've ever seen. Maybe people are super sensitive about that type of thing, but I've essentially been a book reading, grammar nazi, dork since I was a kid. Is that what people would bring up when we were snapping on each other? Yep, but do I think anyone ever thought I was less black because of it? Nope.

I agree with this 100%, and it seems like a move that is needlessly dangerous. Someone is going to shatter an ankle and we're going to get a Sid Justice(Vicious) situation.

It's following the same principle as a Boston Crab, pulling back on the legs to add pressure. It changes the angle of the pull on the targeted leg, effectively enhancing the amount of pain it produces. Most wrestling submissions don't make sense, how is the Figure 8 the one people are hung up on? It doesn't make sense to be in a sleeper for more than about 10 seconds. Trying to work over a guys arm with an armbar is also stupid, just break it and end the match. Why is a single leg crab a leg submission, but a Boston crab is a back submission? A short arm scissors(which is called a bicep slicer in submission grappling) can legit destroy your arm much worse than most submissions. The Figure 8 isn't any more or less logical than the rest of those things, especially when you couldn't put a figure four on anyone who wasn't unconscious already to begin with.

I think all of Cena's "finishers" are pretty shitty. The AA is a glorified fireman's carry takedown. His STF looks like his opponent could fall asleep in it. That springboard stunner was botched 98% of the time he tried it. Every time someone complains about the Rainmaker, I just want to say "That isn't even close to the worst main even finisher." I think John Cena is the wrestler who I hate the most about, but I love the most. He's essentially the drunk uncle of wrestling.

Yeah, the best way to sell a DDT is that your head hits and you just kind of go limp. All the flip overs, implants, and anything else takes away from the impact of the move. I'd prefer if the guy had to struggle to roll the victim's lifeless body over to pin them.It depends to me. Selling it like death when it's being used as a transition move is silly, and I think it helps differentiate the DDT from a normal move and a (potential) finish based solely on how it's sold. There was a while where anybody taking the Evenflow would do the "face plant -> DEAD" sell that helped separate it from other DDTs on the same show, not unlike how Rhino was able to get the piledriver over as a believable finish in an era where it was as common as a lock up by merely doing it that much better. A DDT shouldn't be a transitional move, but that is a whole different conversation.