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This is an amazing piece of work that would make my all time Top 50. Very different from their other matches too with a urgent, almost desperate Misawa vs. a more cerebral Kobashi. Two points stand out: Kobashi managing to make a comeback after the ramp tiger suplex and him finally hitting the Burning Hammer. Combined with Misawa's look after the Emerald Flowsion kickout, they make for the ultimate passing of the torch moment. ****5/8
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One of the top matches of the 2000s. Excellent heel-face dynamic, a great mix of limbwork, technical skill and high impact action and strong selling. 2009 MOTY. ****1/4
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Awesome spectacle with tons of memorable moments/spots, great character work, snug strike exchanges and well executed finisher kickouts. The execution of the screwy finish could have been better but I liked the storytelling behind it: Lesnar had surpassed Taker but Taker was the fighting veteran willing to kick you in the dick and cheat to win and that's exactly what happened. ****1/2
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No thread for this yet? This is one of the more universally liked matches. Fantastic clash of styles (no pun intended), killer arm work, great selling, intensity, unique spots and grit. 2014 MOTYC. ****1/4
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Wrestlers who are BOTH Overrated and Underrated
Microstatistics replied to Microstatistics's topic in Pro Wrestling
Honestly not trying to be a hipster or contrarian here but I'd rate Taue above Misawa and Kawada. When all of them were at their athletic peak (let's say 1995), I can buy him being the clear #4 but during the Jumbo and co vs. Misawa and co feud, he was the best of the 4 and after 1996 or so, he was always on point whenever he showed up while Misawa and Kawada were really hit or miss. Also he has gems outside the usual circle like the Hansen classic from 94 or the Nagata match that the other two simply don't for me (excluding the 10/95 Albright wonder). But I can see why people might think me or someone else is rating him too highly so he is a good pick for this thread. Kobashi smokes them all though. -
Ohtani is not terribly fond of Ishikawa and goes all out trying to murder him (literally speaking at one point in the postmatch). Ishikawa fights back with fire and disdain. A super heated and extremely intense sprint, with zero letup. All time great squash. ****
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I was looking through my top rated matches from this decade and noticed some recurring names. A really, really rough draft: 1. Black Terry 2. Brock Lesnar 3. Minoru Suzuki 4. Daniel Bryan 5. Kazuchika Okada 6. Jun Akiyama 7. AJ Styles 8. Negro Casas 9. Io Shirai 10. Dick Togo Honorable Mentions: Tetsuya Naito, Sasha Banks, Asuka, Rey Hechicero
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What is the best wrestling company/promotion ever? Pick your own criteria but try and account for its entire run rather than picking based on specific eras. My rough list: 1. NJPW 2. WWF/WWE 3. EMLL/CMLL 4. AJPW 5. AJW 6. NWA/WCW 7. RINGS 8. BattlARTS 9. UWF (the second one) 10. Joint Promotions
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Branching of the most Underrated Thread. Which wrestlers are both overpraised and unfairly criticized, depending on the circle of fans? Some picks: Naoya Ogawa Shawn Michaels Kurt Angle Hiroshi Tanahashi Nobuhiko Takada Shinobu Kandori Yoshinari Ogawa Chris Jericho Antonio Inoki Dynamite Kid Kazuchika Okada Kazunari Murakami
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 4
Microstatistics replied to TravJ1979's topic in Pro Wrestling
I should probably post this in the match thread but I wanted to highlight it. I was rewatching the famous Funk vs. Race bout from 7/1/1977. In the third fall, a bloody Funk is working over the right leg of Race. Race's selling is minimal but at one point he decides to drop a kneedrop with his left leg. Then proceeds to sell that leg for nearly 1 minute in what is probably the dumbest spot I've ever seen in wrestling. After that Funk returns to working over the right leg (as he should) like nothing happened. That spot nearly killed the match for me and almost made me want to yell at my screen "You had an injured leg RIGHT THERE to do that exact spot and it would have fit the context perfectly and looked great". I know that's just one spot but in general, Race is probably the only wrestler considered an all time great who I think is genuinely awful. -
i fully agree with all these minus Naito hes well loved aming western Japanese fans in face book groups and alike That's true but he doesn't get too much praise around here (relatively speaking atleast). I think he smokes Tanahashi and beats Okada on inputs.
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Some more underrated: ​Sid Cooper Shiro Koshinaka Masakatsu Funaki Kaoru Yumiko Hotta Rey Hechicero Tetsuya Naito
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Am I the only one who liked the finish to 6/6/1997? After all of that overkill and violence, Kawada gets pinned by a simple German suplex that wasn't even executed properly because he has been decimated so badly.
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I can understand the temptation to rate Volk Han as underrated since he is a Top 10-20 wrestler ever for me. But for fans of shoot style, he is almost universally praised as one of, if not the best in the style so I don't think he really qualifies as underrated. Same for Fujiwara. Mima Shimoda is a great pick. A transcendently great heel. im not talking just around these parts i more talking about as general rule if you get in ot debate in wrestling fans not around here about best technical workers of all time Volk will never get mentioned when to me there id very little debate there he should be very high than that list and very high on any overall list im technique realism and execution mark not work rate mark and volk tick all these scores 10 9 .5 and 10 in my three main ratings wile not main people mentioned him i also go by og via cage match rating vs my own By that logic, you can rate Jerry Lawler as underrated too. Because he is not rated very highly outside of here (due to lack of awareness to be fair) even though he finished #10 on GWE. PWO is quite different from the rest of the internet wrestling community. Han is always rated near the top for matwork/technique here.
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I can understand not digging it but personally, I thought it worked perfectly from a narrative and character standpoint. Like the guy who knew he was way in over his head but would rather get killed than give up. A middle finger in the face of adversity. It played into Brock's growing frustration beautifully too. Building off my initial review, I'll say this is easily Top 5 for the company even with the goofy finishing stretch. And from a booking standpoint, and I think it's sort of obvious in hindsight, they really really should have pulled the trigger with Roman here. It would have instantly made him the ace (considering this was the peak of Lesnar's invincibility) and they could have avoided the entire 3+ year mess that followed.
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That's funny because I was considering rating Kandori as overrated. But then I stopped myself because she is awesome, has produced a ton of quality work. I basically agree with all of the points made above. But I think the pendulum effect is in full effect with her, in certain circles atleast. The narrative years ago was that she's very limited and Hokuto carried her in Dreamslam (which is obvious bull) but now some people are stating that she actually smokes Hokuto and has always been one of the only worthwhile joshi workers in history.
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I didn't hate it like SLB did, in fact I thought it was really good. But I think his criticisms are valid and it is no where near classic level for me. There was WAY too much downtime between spots. It really, really needed a much tighter layout to be great. Don't think it needed to go 40 minutes. I loved the storytelling element though. I am a fan of well done melodrama in wrestling, whether it's Shawn vs. Flair/Taker or Hashimoto vs. Choshu and they nailed it here. Brilliant finishing stretch. Pretty awesome character and the intensity and hate were on point. Also genuine heel heat for Ciampa was nice to see. ***1/2
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I can understand the temptation to rate Volk Han as underrated since he is a Top 10-20 wrestler ever for me. But for fans of shoot style, he is almost universally praised as one of, if not the best in the style so I don't think he really qualifies as underrated. Same for Fujiwara. Mima Shimoda is a great pick. A transcendently great heel.
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[2005-11-23-U-STYLE] Kiyoshi Tamura vs Josh Barnett
Microstatistics replied to GOTNW's topic in November 2005
Really interesting dynamic as you get big vs. small thrown in with the technical battle. Barnett has the power and the technique but is slightly vulnerable to strikes and has (relative to Tamura atleast) poor cardio. Truly amazing finish. ****- 4 replies
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Typically awesome and violent Tenryu beatdown which KENTA sells pretty well, though I thought his comeback was a bit sudden. Loved the post match water bottle toss. ***3/4
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[1991-Monterrey] La Fiera vs Jerry Estrada (Chain)
Microstatistics replied to Loss's topic in January 1991
Overrated and loses a bit of steam near the end but still really good for the chaos, creativity, nastiness and violence. Fits the setting perfectly. ***3/4- 25 replies
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Excellent apeustas brawl. Difficult to execute that type of match in a tag setting but they made it work superbly. Satanico's selling/body language after the first fall beatdown is about as good as wrestling gets. Violence, intensity and drama. ****1/4
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[2002-08-25-WWE-Summerslam] The Rock vs Brock Lesnar
Microstatistics replied to Superstar Sleeze's topic in August 2002
Between this and his performance in the Hogan match, The Rock was quite good in 2002. Pretty awesome subtle heel performance, adapting well to the crowd. Young Brock was also good: powerhouse and a bump machine. A really fun match. ***1/4- 5 replies
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[2018-04-08-WWE-Wrestlemania XXXIV] Brock Lesnar vs Roman Reigns
Microstatistics replied to cactus's topic in April 2018
My initial review: Rewatched this and I stand by almost all of what I had said. Having said that, I enjoyed it slightly more than I did initially. Watching it in a vacuum helped. It's still reasonably hard hitting and there are cool individuals spots. But ultimately, it's a bit of a mess and all the F5 kickouts killed any chance of it being decent. The apathetic crowd didn't help either. **1/4 Speaking of, were the repeated F5s Brock's creative choice or were they incorporated by someone backstage using the "Roman's loses but gets to kick out of a bazillion finishers in row to look resilient" logic? -
[1999-09-23-JWP] Azumi Huyga vs Carlos Amano
Microstatistics replied to Jetlag's topic in September 1999
A sensational established champion vs. up and coming challenger bout. Amano launches a very impressive assault on Hyuga's leg and Hyuga does an amazing job selling. Great attention to detail as well. MOTYC. ****1/4