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I feel like if you watched current AJPW week-to-week it might be a little different, but I just helicopter in and watch the big matches every few months, and boy is every Kento match about him hitting the 7th or 8th German for the win. Matches are still good, but I feel like you could set your watch to it.
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I haven't seen his run on Luch Underground, and the little bit of his Indie run before coming back to WWE wasn't anything spectacular, but outside of that, here's some stuff I've liked: with Bandido and Fenix vs Young Bucks and Ibushi - All In vs Andrade - Smackdown 1/15/19 vs Andrade - Smackdown 1/22/19 vs Andrade, Samoa Joe, and R-Truth - Fastlane 2019 vs Andrade - Raw 8/5/19 vs Cesaro - Raw 9/16/19 vs Brock Lesnar - Survivor Series 2019 vs Andrade - Raw 1/20/20 vs Murphy - Raw 4/20/20
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The Hijo del Santo match, I think it was a fan cam, was not what I wanted it to be and was a bit disappointed. Everything else I've seen, a handful of 6 mans, has been good.
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Has Rey done enough since 2016 to move up on the overall list? I can't say my opinion on him has changed, he's still one of the most consistent wrestlers ever. But he has another 5 years of being one of the best TV workers in the world, including maybe the best TV match in WWE history, and so good stuff on big shows, like the 6 man on All In, the Brock match, and some multi-man US Title matches in 2019.
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This seems like a good place to start http://segundacaida.blogspot.com/2018/09/complete-and-accurate-eddie-kingston.html
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One of my favorite wrestlers over the last few years, but I feel like I'm a bit low on the actual in-ring stuff. He has a presence that is almost entirely missing from modern indies and to a lesser extent modern wrestling. There are few things I enjoy more than when they put him against trainees in AIW, where he gets to beat the tar out of them in front of their friends and family, the Wes Barkley and Tre Lamar matches stand out. On the other hand, I can't say there are a ton of other matches that I would point to as my favorites, outside of the 2017 stuff with Tracy Williams. The recent stuff from AEW that got hype, I thought was good, but not great. I haven't seen much of the Chikara stuff though, and that seems like the place that would have the sort of stuff you could make a case for him with.
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Was she better than the opportunities she got? Almost, certainly. But, what happened, happened, and what happened was mostly a whole lot of nothing.
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I think he's fine, but his leaving WWE caused a lot of people to act like he became one of the best wrestlers in the world since he left, and nothing has really changed other than he pretends to be a MMA fighter a couple of times a year, except he's an MMA fighter who uses a double arm ddt for some reason.
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Seems like exactly the same wrestler, except now he exchanges elbows in the center of the ring like a rube.
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Can't think of any standout indie matches, but whenever I've seen him on a CMLL undercard he'll usually base for some spot from Star Jr or Valiente and make it look great.
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He takes a hell of a beating in the Valentine/Krofatt JWA tag.
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I think she's the best actor in WWE history and a perfectly fine wrestler, but she got no shot. Although, that thing she can do to her arm to make it look like it broke rules.
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I think Go is the wrestler who has had the best run post-GWE16. He got a lot of hype last year, and he was great, but I think compared to his 2018 and 2019, it was a relatively down year for him. He seems like he could fall apart at any moment now, but for as long as this run lasts, he's one to watch for 2026.
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I watched a good chunk of Dragon Gate is 2016, didn't love the Mochizuki match discussed above, but thought the matches he had with Susumu, 2/14 and 3/6, were great, the 2/14 one especially. Also had a good match with Yamato in July of that year.
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I thought she was the best wrestler on the planet last year, but before that, I can't say she made much of an impression on me. I don't know what clicked, either for her or for me, but I'm interested and going back and finding out.
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A lot of the recent stuff with constant interference by the dude in the police shirt and the rest of ozaki-gun can get pretty grating, and that's the bulk of her matches at this point.
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Random Match Theory and Other Metrics
Reel replied to concrete1992's topic in Greatest Wrestler Ever
I basically do the same thing with my year-end list, in my head I call it the Produce rule, which is, if this person showed up on some random Wrestler X Produce show, how likely would I be to watch it. It's not a be-all-end-all, but it's a good way to differentiate when things get tough. -
Here's the stuff I've liked from Sugiura since 2016: Go Shiozaki v Takashi Sugiura NOAH: Great Voyage in Osaka 5/28/2016 Katsuhiko Nakajima vs. Takashi Sugiura First Navigation 7/1/2017 Takashi Sugiura vs Go Shiozaki NOAH: Kawasaki Festival 8/18/2018 Go Shiozaki/Kaito Kiomiya vs Kenoh/Takashi Sugiura NOAH: Global Tag League 4/11/2018 Takashi Sugiura vs Atsushi Kotoge vs NOAH: Great Voyage in Niigata 4/29/2018 Takashi Sugiura vs Naomichi Marufuji NOAH: Navigation with Breeze 5/29/2018 Takashi Sugiura/KAZMA SAKAMOTO vs Kenoh/Kaito Kiyomiya NOAH: Global Tag League 4/17/2019 Go Shiozaki/Katsuhisa Nakajima/Atsushi Kotoge vs Naomichi Marufuji/Akitoshi Saito/Takeshi Sugiura NOAH: Navigation for the Future 2/1/2019 Go Shiozaki vs Takashi Sugiura NOAH: The Best Final Chronicle 12/6/2020 Katsuhiko Nakajima vs Takashi Sugiura NOAH: N-1 Victory 9/23/2020 Masa Kitamiya/Katsuhiko Nakajima vs Kazushi Sakuraba/Takasi Sugiura NOAH: Great Voyage in Yokohama 3/7/2021 I can't say that I'm the biggest Sugiura guy, but he's been one of the few consistently good wrestlers in NOAH over that time. That being said, I'd have him firmly below Go and Nakajima during that period as a whole, and recently I'd have Kiyomiya over him too.
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If I had to project how good I think he is in the scheme of all the wrestlers I've ever seen, I think he might be top 10, but obviously, that isn't what GWE is about, so I'm gonna try and sneak him in on the bottom of my ballot on the basis of the 3 matches I put in the nomination thread and the little bit of other footage, mostly clips from Florida, that we have.
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I read them as single issues on comixology unlimited, I don't know if that plays into it. They are categorized in a weird way and in a way that makes them hard to find in search, but if you find the first issue of a run, when you get to the end of the issue, it'll link to the next.
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I just saw Toba for this first time a couple of days ago on the Samurai TV 5th Anniversary show. Those big punches with the boxing gloves are awesome. Interested in checking some of this stuff out.
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I just read the first two runs on my kindle within the last month, can't speak to the most recent stuff though.
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It's not her best match of the run, but the most impressive one to me was the match she got out of Tamina at Money in the Bank. There's also the Asuka match from SummerSlam, and another one from Raw a few weeks earlier.
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He said recently he plans on coming back, so we'll see if and how that comes about. I don't know how much he has left in the tank, but I thought some of the stuff he did at the beginning of last year, where he got up from commentary to fight AOP and some of the Rollins stuff, was a lot of fun.
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I like the Sano match from SWS, not that one above-average match, almost entirely divorced from the heel gimmick, makes up for the rest of it being lackluster.