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Claudio might make a small push down the list but I think he's still going to be around the 80s slot regardless. A consequence of him being content to just be a solid mid-card tag specialist, perhaps. Sami I feel like might be viewed more positively since he did have a incredibly big babyface stint in the 2020's

For fun, I'll go through each of these and my predictions as to if they'll be higher or lower: Ospreay: Obviously will be higher, but to the extent depends on who's voting. He's a bit like marmite for a good bunch of people on here Jim Cornette: lol Tetsuya Naito: Might be a little higher due to his lackluster last couple of years. If we had this in 2018/19 I would definitely say he'd be higher up Zack Sabre Jr.: Absolutely lower, top 40/50 range. Eddie Kingston: Again absolutely lower, but again he's another divisive act on the board. I can see people sticking him from top 20 all the way to 80's/90's, so I think somewhere in the middle is where he'll lie. Dean Ambrose: Mox will be lower, but I don't actually think by that much since his title run has been very hit/miss for people. Ricochet: Lower, but not by any significant amount. Still won't make a top 100. Kenny Omega: MUCH lower down, I'm guessing he'll have a spot around about the low 20's/early 40's at worst. Tomohiro Ishii: Will make the top 100, he's only added to his case over time. Kota Ibushi: Wild ups and downs for this lad, I think if you asked during COVID he'd be in a much better spot. Will make the top 100 however will not be that far down. Minoru Suzuki: Will be higher, don't think his freelance work has really made a dent for many and his NJPW peaks are further and further out of the minds of those who voted in 2016 and first timers. Will not be in the top 100 Christian: 100% will make the top 100, I'm guessing about the 60/70 range. His AEW run has endeared him to a lot of fairly new fans and has opened new eyes to his past work. Andre The Giant: Higher if only because regency bias/no real explosion of early footage for him unlike in 2016. Brock Lesnar: Will be higher for many reasons, still think he'll be in that 50s/70s slot though. CM Punk: Again I think he'll be higher for many reasons AJ Styles: Lower, I think his late work has proven that he definitely has the chops to be a 20s/early 30s kind of candidate Mick Foley: Might be higher if only because again regency bias, but otherwise I think his spot around the position where it was in 2016 will be more or less the same. Dustin Rhodes: Lower due to his AEW stint. Not going beyond the late 20's though if even that Shawn Michaels: Very volatile, I think people will have him slightly lower John Cena: Will not budge from the #30 spot and if he does, it's going to be a fairly small movement either way. El Hijo del Santo: will be lower due to lucha footage being a lot more accessible, especially for a guy like Santo who benefits a lot from deep-cuts. Rey Mysterio Jr: MIGHT make top 5? I can definitely see it. Daniel Bryan: Again, depends on regency bias/who's voting. I can see him being #1, but also missing out to some key wrestlers.

A decent shindie hardcore brawler of the time, though people expecting the flash and showmanship of Onita from him will be epically disappointed. Matsunaga is a lot more brutal, more of a classical type where brawling and blood are the main game. He's decent at the brawling part (his kicks are solid before he busted them completely) and he gets bloody at will. I actually love his post-2000s appearances because of how unhinged they are. Here's a scrubby has-been gone mad from years of pain and disappointment pulling out a dozen knifes from his knee braces or putting people in SAW-type contraptions just for the hell of it. Sure he's sloppy, but who cares? You're not watching this stuff for clean technical masterclasses, you're watching it to watch a old fella do some painful shit that looks cool only for the people not doing it. If you have a taste for the bonkers, I would implore putting in the effort to find his performances from around that time. Would he get on a top 100? Probably not, but he's still quite entertaining nonetheless.

Solid grappler from the footage found, I just think it's not enough to really slot him in here. Maybe in the future when inevitably more material comes out can we then judge it properly.

I watched a little of WoS alongside his NJPW work, Roberts is pretty good, even if as said above the guy has the charisma of rustling toilet paper. He has a great sense of making technical aspects that would seem boring feel more exciting, adding in a sense of agency to a style that can seem very dry at points. Does best either with a game opponent willing to play his game (Fuchi, Fujinami, Kido) or forcing more trigger-happy wrestlers to work slower and smarter (Sayama). Might be worth looking out for depending on how much you rate WoS stuff.

Introduction These are a collection of write-ups/reviews of matches within AJPW that I found to be interesting/obscure enough to be worth examining in further detail, namely due to the fact that a lot of them go pretty under the radar to the usual main event material. The company goes through a lot of changes in the 90s; arguably in doing so it makes a lot more exciting for a viewer than the relatively stable decades prior. Oddities #1: 1995 Johnny Ace & Steve Williams vs. Jun Akiyama & Takao Omori (24.01.1995) Giant Baba, Kenta Kobashi & Mitsuharu Misawa vs. Johnny Ace, Johnny Smith & Steve Williams (29.01.1995) Akira Taue & Toshiaki Kawada vs. Danny Kroffat & Stan Hansen (17.02.1995) Johnny Ace vs. Stan Hansen (30.03.1995) Jun Akiyama vs. Stan Hansen (13.04.1995) Akira Taue vs. Johnny Ace (13.04.1995) Johnny Ace vs. Patriot (24.07.1995 Danny Kroffat vs. Yoshinari Ogawa (10.09.1995) Jun Akiyama, Masao Inoue & Satoru Asako vs. Ryukaku Izumida, Tsuyoshi Kikuchi & Yoshinari Ogawa (25.10.1995) Abdullah The Butcher & Giant Kimala vs. Dory Funk Jr. & Mighty Inoue (25.10.1995) Johnny Smith & Rob Van Dam vs. Kenta Kobashi & Mitsuharu Misawa (18.11.1995) Gary Albright & Stan Hansen vs. Kenta Kobashi & Mitsuharu Misawa (29.11.1995) Oddities #2: 1996 Tamon Honda vs. Toshiaki Kawada (12.01.1996) Johnny Ace, Lacrosse, Patriot & The Eagle vs. Kenta Kobashi, Kentaro Shiga, Mitsuharu Misawa & Satoru Asako (22.01.1996) Gary Albright vs. Jun Akiyama (31.03.1996) Mitsuharu Misawa vs. Toshiaki Kawada (14.04.1996) Giant Baba, Kentaro Shiga & Satoru Asako vs. Masanobu Fuchi, Masao Inoue & Yoshinari Ogawa (20.04.1996) Gary Albright & Toshiaki Kawada vs. Giant Kimala & Kenta Kobashi (03.06.1996) Brian Dyette & Kenta Kobashi vs. Jun Akiyama & Mitsuharu Misawa (29.06.1996) Gary Albright vs. Masanobu Fuchi (22.08.1996) Gary Albright vs. Takao Omori (05.09.1996) Danny Kroffat, Johnny Ace & Steve Williams vs. Giant Kimala, Kenta Kobashi & Patriot (28.09.1996) Gary Albright vs. Toshiaki Kawada (12.10.1996) Johnny Ace & Steve Williams vs. Kenta Kobashi & Patriot (same day) Danny Kroffat & Rob Van Dam vs. Kimala II & Ryukaku Izumida (18.10.1996) Akira Taue, Dory Funk Jr. & Giant Baba vs. Jumbo Tsuruta, Jun Akiyama & Mitsuharu Misawa (same day) Gary Albright & Sabu vs. Stan Hansen & Takao Omori (22.11.1996) Masanobu Fuchi & Yoshiaki Fujiwara vs. Satoru Asako & Tamon Honda (29.11.1996) Giant Kimala & Sabu vs. Maunakea Mossman & Yoshinari Ogawa (06.12.1996) Oddities #3: 1997 Akira Taue, Jun Izumida & Toshiaki Kawada vs. Bobby Duncum Jr., Johnny Ace & Steve Williams (02.01.1997) Mitsuharu Misawa vs. Tamon Honda (17.01.1997) Kenta Kobashi & Masao Inoue vs. Toshiaki Kawada & Tsuyoshi Kikuchi (16.02.1997) Akira Taue & Toshiaki Kawada vs. Gary Albright & Yoshihiro Takayama (01.03.1997) Gary Albright vs. Mitsuharu Misawa (22.03.1997) Johnny Ace vs. Stan Hansen (30.03.1997) Hayabusa & The Tornado vs. Kentaro Shiga & Maunakea Mossman (02.04.1997) Gary Albright vs. Toshiaki Kawada (same day) Hayabusa & Yoshinobu Kanemaru vs. Kentaro Shiga & Yoshinari Ogawa (19.04.1997) Daisuke Ikeda, Giant Baba & Rusher Kimura vs. Haruka Eigen, Masanobu Fuchi & Masao Inoue (18.05.1997) Hayabusa & Jun Akiyama vs. Kentaro Shiga & Takao Omori (06.06.1997) Daisuke Ikeda & Takeshi Ono vs. Tsuyoshi Kikuchi & Yoshinari Ogawa (29.06.1997) Gary Albright & Steve Williams vs. Johnny Ace & Kenta Kobashi (25.07.1997) Tamon Honda & Toshiaki Kawada vs. The Lacrosse & Yoshihiro Takayama (same day) Gary Albright & Steve Williams vs. Jun Akiyama & Mitsuharu Misawa (26.08.1997) Akira Taue, Jun Akiyama & Kenta Kobashi vs. Hiroshi Hase, Mitsuharu Misawa & Toshiaki Kawada (15.09.1997) Daisuke Ikeda, Satoru Asako & Tamon Honda vs. Giant Kimala, Rex King & Sean Morgan (27.09.1997) Jun Akiyama & Kentaro Shiga vs. Takao Omori & Yoshinobu Kanemaru (21.10.1997) Barry Windham & Justin Bradshaw vs. Johnny Ace & Kenta Kobashi (15.11.1997) Giant Kimala & Jun Izumida vs. Hayabusa & Jinsei Shinzaki (15.11.1997) Giant Kimala & Jun Izumida vs. Jun Akiyama & Mitsuharu Misawa (16.11.1997) Barry Windham, Gary Albright & Steve Williams vs. Bobby Duncum Jr., Stan Hansen & Takao Omori (05.12.1997) (other years to be added)

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Yeah figured as such, those longer hour-long Specials aren't as publically available as the TV slots. You can still find them but it's somewhat of a struggle. Appreciated that you enjoyed the match itself ARSION is pretty good just as a solo watch, it's completely isolated from other promotions at the time so you don't need to know some sort of secondary "lore" to know what's going on. It's slow for the debut year but the late 90s are a joy to go through if you click with the house-style.

I can't say he was "cosplaying" (whatever that means) but he absolutely felt unfocused in a lot of the matches I seen of him, another kick/submission guy in a era where there were a LOT of those guys trying for the same style, only occasionally he'd do like a WoS spot but a bit slower and more clunky, or maybe even a dive or two. God forbid if he was a heel in the match too.

I think this reflects my views on Bryan a fair bit. I've watched a good bit of his best work, just never really seen the "GOAT" out of him. He seems like a guy who especially in his earlier days felt like someone trying to copy better wrestlers without really putting his own ideas into how to make them better/unique. Like Necro/Low-Ki had MUCH shorter peaks but they were so wildly unique in their presentation that you couldn't help but acknowledge them, even if you thought Necro "couldn't wrestle" or Low-Ki "just stiffed people" (I disagree with both of these ofc) you were pretty much forced to confront what they brought to the table. With Bryan, I see so many of him out there that I can just kinda phase him out. His actual matches around the time are still pretty bloody great, but they aren't GOAT-contender material. I'm not that wowed by them at the end of the day. With Bryan, I just kinda see that part of his career as a pseudo Minoru Tanaka where he's trying to do the "flashy Jr with kicks/submissions" style without actually drilling in what he wants to add on top of that. I feel like he got much better at realising his potential as a legendarily great babyface in his WWE/AEW material wherein he was forced to have shorter matches and so could not have the luxury of having 30+ Epics every time where he could just fill it as much as possible with stuff he wanted to throw in. This does start to creep into his AEW material again (especially with his hour long matches) but I think he handled it much better and I would say that by far that was his best balance. The other issue (and this is one I've talked with others about, including Joseph on this thread here!) is that I don't think Bryan cracked certain things that are required for a GOAT-status. He didn't really have stellar tag-team matches, for instance, only a short couple of showings in WWE where he was mostly using his incredible babyface energy for hot tags. One can't really find the carefully constructed masterpieces that the Pillars were involved in, or the incredible high intensity JWP-tags that defined those like Dynamite or Ozaki. They simply don't exist. I don't think he cracked being a heel either though that's a whole other bag of worms. Needless to say, I think he's still a pretty good performer, still say he was top 30/40, but the Platonic ideal that he represents just doesn't really click for me nor do I think was ever realised.

Consult the Evito Best of Joshi Puroresu series they did on Reddit, it's a helpful guide to Jag matches that might be worth searching/watching past her first retirement.

It really depends on how much you rate her (IIRC fantastic) 1980's work. As the years have gone by we've slowly trickled out more and more AJW material from that era and it basically confirms the legend of Jaguar being this all-round badass maestro ace, helped by some very helpful documentation by folks like @Kadaveri in regards to fully showcasing that factoid to a wider audience. After her 80's work I will admit that her material is somewhat shaky: not in terms of a "absolute stinker" level of quality, but she does feel a little infrequent, sometimes having these amazing classics and then the occasional eh match or so, mostly in promotions like Jd' where the experience of everyone around her would vary significantly. After the 90's she kinda falls off the radar because she either focuses on promotions with little to no coverage like Bolshoi's JWP (though some of her matches are, amazingly, still intact) or wrestles rookies/simply bad wrestlers. It's a strange trajectory for one of the greatest to go, but there you go. She feels like a heavy peak candidate; though if you are a fan of old vets doing occasionally really wild spots she's definitely got a bright side there to focus on as well, I mean ffs she still does reverse Frankensteiners regularly. Will definitely be in the top 100, probably top 20/30 thinking about it.

I appreciate the fact that you're on your way to becoming a Ogawa fan, he's definitely the type that absolutely rewards the viewer for paying attention to the match as attentively as this write-up does. You might be somewhat disappointed in that Ogawa never gets perhaps the crazy highs of the Kobashi match but he absolutely still excels on having great dickhead performances, would be happy to throw out recommendations if needed

Fun tag worker in her prime, pretty great longevity as well to boot considering she's still wrestling in Marvellous to this day having good to solid outings. Will not be in the top 100 as I think she never quite broke the mid-card ceiling she had over her head, her depth of work post-GAEA is a little lacking as well.

A decent (but quite awkward) Jr heavyweight, his 90s big match stuff while impressive can go overkill, especially in the late 90s where it's clear his motivation for doing crazy shit was starting to weigh on him. His best work ever was probably his early FMW catalogue, insane mileage out of extremely heated brawls + awesome Different Style material that had him work brilliant Fish out of Water sequences with boxers and martial artists. He does suffer from diminishing returns as the years go by; post-2000's Onita feels more and more like a parody of himself more than the real article; by the time you get to the Tiger Mask feud it's just kinda never-ending how dull his matches tend to get especially since he started abusing the fuck out of mist spots to the point where half the match is just him building up to it. Not withstanding today where he's so limited that all he can really do is his entrance and maybe a table piledriver if his knees feel up to it. It's hard to grade him because he's a guy that's most known for spectacle despite his best material generally not being all that spectacular lol. I feel like he'll still be on that top 100 but his consistency is a big knock to his case.

I found it on YT actually, there's the TV version that gives you 14 minutes of the original 20 As always I would also say to consult the AJPW 90s Omnibus since that tends to have the occasional deeper slice of matches (or things outright omitted otherwise)

Kinda a uber-GOAT in that she's had I think two very distinct but great careers (her workrate-heavy JWP stint, then her later work as a bloody invader). Somewhat hurt by a pretty all over the place 2000's run where I think she took way too much inspiration from Triple H but I think her later work into the 2020's is definitely really respectable given her limitations, especially the pair of matches she had with Mio Momono (who similarly will absolutely be on the top 100 with the greatest of ease). She's basically worked like a far better Onita the last decade and I'm all the more happy for that.

Ishikawa will 100% be on the top 100 list. He had a bit of a lull nearing the end of his second AJPW stint but the guy has had 15+ years of being a big crowbar fuck who just hits as hard as he can with whoever he's paired up with, taking insane punishment be it from ultra-violent bloodfests in BJW or doing some of the dumbest big-man bumps possible in more classical epics in their Strong division, also proven he can work as a more immobile giant in later years. His recent freelance resurgence as this wandering enforcer has really ruled as well and cemented his status as one of the best giants of his time and probably a bit beyond that to boot.

idk about White being a "minimalist" his best stint was in a company that infamously dragged the fuck out of every semi/main event by at least 10 minutes (something he happily got himself involved with) not to also mention that horrendous engorged tumour that was the WK15 Ibushi match. Jerry Lawler was a minimalist, Jay White's just more of a throwback-type to control heavy heels that don't heavily rely on flash. Jay White for GWE is a tricky one, sometimes he clicks and seems like the biggest bastard in the world (especially when it comes to the micro elements like fatigue-selling, emoting, fluidity etc) but he's someone who's whole style hinges greatly on his opponent complimenting what he brings to the table; he needs a strong babyface OR at least someone who's willing to respect his slower pace to truly get something great out of him. He's very defensive, more of someone who relies on a great hook (a super-athlete like late 2010's Ibushi or a face with a big legacy like Tanahashi) than making one himself. One could argue that's been exposed heavily in AEW where he doesn't have the benefit of perhaps having that structure always in front of him, especially with the varied opponents he gets. For him to be on a GWE2026 list you'd need to be heavily leaning it on NJPW work, for me personally I just don't click with that enough to consider him there.

i'd be fine handling the busywork with GWE threads if there's stuff to be covered

thanks! if you want more based late-Momota matches his 1999 Fan Appreciation Night match is really stellar

GOAT-tier at boiling the piss of smarks, good to great most of the time in matches. I kinda wish we got more of the pure shooty-side of him because the Severn Bloodsport-but-much-better- title match they had in 1998 was pretty solid and he definitely had the background chops to make it work beyond just Different Style shit if he was ever inclined. He definitely got a better idea of how to make his stature work in a post-PRIDE world than most, that's for sure.

This feels like the kind of wrestling that Onita was always one of the best at; causing disruptions whenever he'd go, shaking things up and not being afraid to piss a ton of people off in the process. They do a good job making him seem like a legit complete outsider against the polished martial artist in Aoyagi, eating a quick and easy knockdown at the very start to set up his desperation to keep in the match by any means necessary via going right into dirty clinches, threatening to stomp the shit out of his opponent while he's trying to clean break, just all of the effective heel shit that a man like Onita would've learned from already a decade+ of refined wrestling wisdom. He knows how to push the buttons just enough to work Aoyagi's buddies at ringside (the crowd to boot) to get them more and more pissed off at this washed up retired jackass trying to get his fame back to the point where they're just ready to run in and cause chaos, something which at MULTIPLE occasions almost becomes reality and at some points overspills into actually happening. I can't say that the actual bulk of the action is especially amazing from a purely technical standpoint; the takedowns look real hokey, there's really no stand-up work asides from a lot of messy limb throwing/flailing (with maybe a couple of unpolished clinches) the few submissions that are applied as well don't look the greatest execution wise (though Onita applies a pretty good facelock in the first half). This is forgivable because the match isn't going for polish, it's going for the pure spectacle factor in its entirety. You aren't watching this for the epic knockdowns or the creative submissions, you're watching it because Onita's being a shithead and Aoyagi is the hometown hero ready to beat his ass for a good 20 minutes, a match built off the premise of violence rather than the parts of the whole. Granted said parts are still relatively good though. Crazy real brawl happens in the middle half when Onita smacks Aoyagi with a chair on the outside which ends up having the guy legit punched in the face by one of Aoyagi's buddies. There's a huge scuffle and it takes multiple agonisingly long minutes to break it up then to restore the match, creating legit confusion in the heated crowd as to what's going on. I absolutely loved the fact that as soon as the match actually restarted Onita scumbag as he is goes right into another dirty clinch to throw clearly illegal headbutts before choking the shit out of the Karate lad on his side of the ring lol. This gives them the chance to get Aoyagi blading for some classic Southern colour to really get the intensity up, helped by Onita's almost feral antics at this point as he just lays into his opponent with as many headbutts as he can muster. He eventually decides to go full crazy by assaulting the ref directly with punches (which while not uncommon here, was something Onita was prepared to do in more sneaky ways like indirectly pushing him over earlier on) out of pure frustration due to not being able to get that definitive big victory despite taking a painful beating, ultimately losing his patience with not just Aoyagi but the hostile crowd to boot by throwing out the entire thing. Post-match he very quickly scarpers out while his buddies throw hands, Aoyagi gets the symbolic victory post-match by being the only guy involved to be capable of staying inside the ring without getting chased down with fists; it's definitely built to be inconclusive given the feud to come, however, so one expects that this is for sure not a conclusive end. Is this absolutely clunky in execution? Sure, this is pretty dang messy on many occasions. The magic here is as I've said Onita is a perfect outsider heel: a Funk-lite contender that really communicates his mounting frustrations with the unstoppable brick wall that is Masashi Aoyagi though his escalating intensity and his selling, both forming a brilliant combo that serves to make the crowbar karateka seem like the coolest fucker to ever live with every explosive rush of strikes thrown: draining away at Onita's body but also his sanity to boot, he comes into this a polished competitor willing to sprawl and wrestle in a clash of styles and literally runs out looking like a desperate man looking for a equally desperate way-out. In a way, perhaps, it marks the end of the polished & clean AJPW Onita and the true beginning of his grimy roots as an supreme disrupter, giving him a out to his now conclusively failed past and a clear direction towards his future with no way for him to ever go back to being a generic Jr babyface with this lingering in the background. Onita running from the tradition of the ring and into the violent sprawling Korakuen crowd is the gesture needed to finally commit the exorcism required to make that part of him melt away completely, assisted by the beatings provided by a all-too eager opponent and audience. An absolute masterclass in how exploiting a hostile atmosphere and taking complete advantage of it can make or break a match; lesser men would've capitulated to the pressure, maybe even tried to do some shitty Curtain Call "sign of respect" post-match gesture to avoid the real risks involved like personal scrutiny (and to a lesser extent, getting punched in the face). Onita was thankfully never that man, and we're all the more better off for it.

I think asides from the occasional good promo this heel run has been a complete dud so far, which is a shame because Cena's RR and Chamber performances respectfully were quite enjoyable for what he was bringing to them. I think they just waited far too long to pull the trigger; Cena hasn't looked good in-ring since 2021 and hasn't looked great since maybe 2018, his body simply is too out of it to deliver on the promise of a proper heel stint (and no, not in the "muh workrate" kind of way)

More Deep stuff here Introduction This is a collected version of my notes regarding Mariko Yoshida's volume of work from her departure from ARSION/AtoZ (2004 to be exact) all the way to her retirement in 2017. This was something that I originally set out to doing about 2 years ago as I was fairly curious as to what existed beyond her strongly acclaimed 90s stint especially since there really was next to no real documentation on the matter, so you kinda had to go off vibes for the most part. This sets out to cover almost everything from that time period barring a very small couple of things that I either did not watch (the Yoshida/Fujiwara vs Ishikawa/Amano tag, for instance, which was so aberrant that I outright refused to give it the dignity of a full review at all) or are just too lacking in content that I decided otherwise (some 3 minute exhibitions she has in IBUKI during her mini retirement) Bolded are matches that I think are must-watch though if you're a completionist like me I doubt it'll matter that much lol. I also do dates in the Euro-style so it's day/month/year. 2004/2005 2006/2007 2008 Wilderness Years Conclusion All in all, I'd say every bolded match included here is absolutely worth watching one way or another. Does that mean everything not bolded isn't? I'd say no. There's definitely still plenty to be found with those and if you like them more than me, that's also cool as well. I think the main thing I got from watching all of these was that Yoshida was in the very rare position of being a tremendously gifted wrestler who was equally as generous to boot. As Jetlag said in the original thread this was thrown in at the time, she tends to play second fiddle to other wrestlers; this is on purpose mainly to show them off in a strange inversion of the usual hierarchy-based structure that is quite typical of promotions to follow from even to this day wherein the bigger stars get, well, the bigger spotlight. The issue is that she's STILL head and shoulders above pretty much all of said wrestlers, so it never really clicks in the way that you'd expect, even with the matches that are actually quite solid there's a sense of incoherence that follows from them that I don't think I ever shook off despite watching so many of them at once. If she had more of a ego, could've had led to her having bigger and better matches? I'd say so, and that's a pretty shocking conclusion considering how much of wrestling is dominated by unneeded egos. I think the other issue is that Yoshida was never really challenged in the same way she was in the ARSION work; you didn't have a Hiromi Yagi or a Megumi Fujii-tier talent to really get her grappling skills tested to the maximum meaning a lot of the matches feel like her more or less in second gear and thus not in her full element all things considered. Still solid, but it's a waste having someone who was clearly very talented on the mat not be able to experiment as much as those late 90's years. It's kinda like if Fujiwara didn't go on to create PWFG in the 90s and just stayed in the mid-card of NJPW having competent and occasionally good showings while never being able to truly get his best trait tested as much as it did there. Regardless she's still a pretty stellar GWE addition that can't really be argued against given her wealth of solid matches, tremendous match-carrying and incredible consistency across the board. I hope this has proven that the case and then some.