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This pedantic arguing is setting me on edge. I think I'll relax by listening to the soothing folky sounds of the Kingston Six-Man Tag Team, or admire the jazzy virtuosity of the Thelonious Monk Six-Man Tag Team.

Tecnico and rudo are kayfabe terms, though. The graphics and chyrons will spell out what alignment a luchador is. "Trio" is also not an exclusive Spanish word.

Well, yes, that makes it hard. That's why we're trying to crack the mystery. If they'd said his name was Joe Blow no one would be asking. I have to assume that a 74-year-old ex-wrestler in 2004 is dead in 2025 though the post doesn't seem to say so definitively. So it's not a case of libeling the guy.

" I recently watched James Romero's new video regarding the most evil wrestlers outside the business (link). Some of the obvious examples, like Grizzly Smith and Buck Zumhofe, were summarised. But the video reminded me of a rather unpleasant BBC 2 documentary series called Police Protecting Children, which, as the title suggests, involved police tracking down predators. In the episode, the police monitored a former professional wrestler. He was from Liverpool and achieved some success in the 1960s. But his career came to an end in 1965 upon being convicted of abusing a young boy (his sentence? A £5 fine...). Months following this, the guy somehow managed to become a PE teacher and remained in the position until his retirement in 1992. Police knew of allegations against the guy dating as far back as 1961 up to at least the mid-1980s. The Crown Prosecution Service investigated him in the 1970s but came up short. A few of his victims spoke out on the documentary; most of the offences occurred following swimming lessons. He was 74 when the documentary aired, and the police were monitoring him following new allegations. In fact, he had been arrested earlier that year. One victim spoke out about meeting his wrestling hero in the 1960s when he was 12, only to be targeted for abuse. The victim bravely spoke out many years later. Sadly, the prosecution used the incorrect term to describe the offence, meaning the suspect got away on a technicality. The 74-year-old worked as a car park attendant and often went out day-drinking. Later, he went to the Isle of Man for three days; the police raided his apartment in the meantime. They found a suspicious letter, VHS tapes (containing nothing illegal) and wrestling magazines. Upon his return to Liverpool, the former wrestler was arrested. He denied any allegations against him during his time as a teacher. However, he was charged with 18 counts of indecent assault and one count of buggery against eight victims. This was later reduced to 11 counts against four victims. Unfortunately, he got away with it again... during a preliminary hearing, the defence successfully argued that the suspect's trial would be unfair due to how long ago it was. Key witnesses had since been deceased, while the school had lost vital records. They therefore stated that it would be the defendant's word against his victims. And due to a controversial ruling in an earlier court case, the prosecution was unable to counter this. The case was subsequently dropped. One of the investigators said it best: "If all the defendant can say is that 'I didn't do it', then he can't get a fair trial". That's had bad British law and justice can be sometimes... Since he was considered "innocent", the documentary could not show the guy's face and censored his name. So, for the British wrestling historians, does anyone know who this wrestler is? Because of his relative obscurity, he is not listed among the most evil wrestlers, even though he ranks up there among the Smiths and Zumhofes for sheer depravity. Here are some photographs of him during his wrestling days. There's another depicting him executing what appears to be a boston crab on an opponent, but Imgur doesn't like the image for some reason. 1: https://imgur.com/lp5ZiaQ 2: https://imgur.com/JoQLW5e 3: https://imgur.com/chxxdsx 4: https://imgur.com/WIFRPE3 5: https://imgur.com/zKlGKsl"

https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/1ncmlsn/does_anyone_know_who_this_british_wrestler_is/ Can anyone here help answer this redditor's question? Liverpool wrestler whose in-ring career ended in 1965.

I don't disbelieve the reason, but I never understood how "medical facility" was supposed to prevent calls and visits to area hospitals. "Wow, they put Rey in an ambulance and took him away from the Baltimore Arena...but where? I would have thought Johns Hopkins Hospital, but they specifically said 'medical facility' and not hospital so he can't be there."

I don't think Hogan's a bad worker (and comparisons to Daddy are laughable) but it's also possible they just have different ways of evaluating wrestlers than you and Hogan comes up short.

It's interesting and I enjoy the HobbyDrama subreddit as a whole, but I'm already finding shit to correct as I'm wont to do.

It was a national business worth millions for Vince. It didn't do a lot for others. It's a bit like praising what Sam Walton did for the retail industry as a whole. The hard truth is that more people were watching, attending, and making a living from wrestling in the territorial days than at any point afterward, including the peak of the expansion era and the peak of the Monday Night Wars.

I mean...yeah, fair, but it's not like the lighter weights completely died off in boxing. Even if the heavyweights were the main attractions, Sugar Ray Robinson, Archie Moore, Sugar Ray Leonard, Hitman Hearns, up through Floyd Mayweather were all big stars. Same with UFC.

Even if it wasn't strictly European-style, Scorpio would have learned some semblance of catch wrestling in the New Japan dojo.

Steve Grey vs. Jim Breaks in the no-rounds match (from I think 1978) is just one match off the top of my head without having to dig through research that ends with Grey literally going to run the ropes (on his own accord) and falling through for the injury/KO finish.

To be perfectly frank about it, I'm not sure how many more times we have to explain that we American-pilled viewers can see a categorical difference between being put down for the count of 10 by a finisher or a high-impact move, and bumbling through the ropes and falling to the floor "injured." I don't care if they go in the record books as the same result: one is one wrestler imposing his will on and vanquishing another with their trademark hold, the other is a fluke and an example of why actual MMA is much better in a cage than in a ring.

Sounds like the songwriter's beef is with the 3rd party, not AEW.

I know these interviews were from before he died but holy shit do Brett, Joey, and GCW probably deserve a liability investigation reading this. Joey's already trying to do damage control saying that he was just adding to "the lore" by claiming Sabu was knocked out and that he actually wasn't, but I don't know how you fucking watch that match and think he was anything but unconscious on that floor bump.

The '50s U.S. footage is almost all (partially) televised house shows, similar to catch (it seems World of Sport/JP could be afford to be a bit more choosy in what aired from where, whereas the U.S. shows just showed whatever was happening at the Olympic Auditorium or Marigold Arena in Chicago that week, depending on the network). The rise of "studio wrestling" was pretty much post-national-TV boom and that's where what we perceive as the modern territorial TV format began. (Of course, even within that there were exceptions--Portland and Dallas continued with the same televised-house-show format for their almost their entire existence).

We're not asking for WWE to employ people indefinitely. We're asking them to honor the fucking contracts they signed talent to. ("But--but, the contract allows for a 90-day termination clause, so they're honoring them!" Shut the fuck up with that bullshit.) If they want to do what they did with Shotzi and just not renew her contract when it expires, that's fine and dandy. You need turnover and you could argue that WWE should actually be more aggressive with doing that instead of less. Also, personally, in the abstract I don't give much of a fuck about how much either company "benches" people except selfishly when it happens to people I really like. If they don't want to use someone, they're free not to as long as they're honoring the contract. But calling out WWE when they do bench people is more than fair after Nick Khan confidently declared that they don't do that.

Unbelievably, Hogan had not one but two decent takes in that interview, talking up Toni Storm and AEW and also saying what a lot of people have been saying about the (lack of) follow-up to the Cena turn.

Let's call it "higher" rather than "high."

Yep, it's the Fuji match, with a big VQ upgrade.

Someone on Richard's Patreon believes it's Yasu Fuji.

In the file from Richard Land, it's Saturski against a guy in a sky-blue leotard and long tights. Black hair and a beard. It might be Judd Harris as I watch the match more closely. Yeah, it's obviously a date discrepancy because that's Kauroff in the match above, but this match is shot from a different angle, elevated and farther back and from the corner of the ring as opposed to ringside.

We've got another discrepancy on that show--the results sites have it as Wolfgang Saturski vs. Klaus Kauroff, but that's definitely not Kauroff and I couldn't recognize him or make out the name.

The WWF on their own television had a doctor talking about how you can't "tough" your way through a concussion and that the effects are permanent. Watch the TV after Shawn collapsed on Raw and you'll see it. Everyone in the medical community knew that concussions were bad not just short-term but long-term at *least* by 1995 and probably earlier.

I've been binging random episodes of Taskmaster and in the 2023 New Year's special, Alex Horne refers to author/broadcaster Greg James as the third-most famous Greg, "behind Greg Dyke and Greg 'The Hammer' Valentine." Not really a setting I expected a wrestling reference and I have to wonder if the Dyke reference was intentional or a coincidence.