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Juvie *did* have that Latin Lover/Hector Garza type appeal, but I don't think that thought process was in Bischoff's mind when he came up with this brilliant plan to give a couple weeks' build to a mask match. This has some awkward moments before the false finish, though the post-450 stuff is all very good. Jericho is such a breath of fresh air to this division--Pure Sports Build stuff is cool and all but if you have *one* guy who's an unabashed douchebag in the division, he can stand out all the more. He's like Norio Honaga with more (or any) athleticism. The spot with Jericho refusing to take the belt off until he sustains a kick sending it into his gut, and his wheezing sell while begging Mickey Jay to take the belt off him, was laugh-out-loud funny.
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A really good opening bout, sadly Martel's last significant match (he'd have one comeback bout against Stevie Ray in the summer and that would be it). Both guys are over--shockingly so, I'd say, especially Martel. Rick provides some focus on Booker's back to set up the Quebec Crab to give this a bit of a psychological thread, which is just one of the major points of difference between him and Saturn. The Saturn match starts off hot but for me it went way too long--and for the crowd as well, as they started off hot but burned out badly by the time we hit the finish, as the moves started getting sloppier and spots started to get repeated. Booker isn't a ring general either but it should have been clear watching this that they had a potential star--he had a star look, he had some great crowd-pleasing spots, he could talk, and not to get too patronizing but he also catered to a major demographic that WCW was often prone to ignoring.
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[1998-02-21-ECW-Cyberslam] Justin Credible vs Tommy Dreamer
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in February 1998
Even by ECW's standards, Dreamer and Credible going into a coma so Beulah, Bass, and Jason can do their little sideshow act, only to come to as soon as they're done, looks horribly contrived. And why not re-do the Big Bubba angle here and have Bass no-sell the weapon shot? Anyway, Dreamer wraps himself in barbed wire and hits a splash off the top. RVD does a run-in to continue the feud that will not die, wrapping barbed wire around Dreamer's head. Credible prepares to hit That's Incredible and Beulah comes in, and that ends in the same predictable way as every other time Beulah attempts to protect Dreamer. Dreamer comes to and goes after Credible with barbed wire, but Jim Molineaux recovers and...stops the match? Oh, give me a fucking BREAK. The goddamned Maryland State Athletic Commission wouldn't have stopped this. How bizarre that all of a sudden we're protecting a guy who practically defined himself by constantly losing the big one. Dreamer cuts Jason up with barbed wire as the ECW audience chants along to show how easily entertained they are. Having said that this was one of the most heatless ECW Arena main events or semi-main events you'll ever see. The RVD/Dreamer stuff is way past played out and Credible pretty much speaks for himself. To continue keeping track of this: more people give a fuck about him than they do Tommy Young, but probably less than there are who care about a Lex/Savage alliance. -
Not to be all cynical during a sincere moment but doesn't THIS render that silly angle with Dreamer's dead grandfather even more hollow. Random fan: "Shut the FUCK up!" Paul E.: "Thank you." Heyman's pissed at the fans' behavior, but who do you have to blame for that, Paul?
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[1998-02-21-WWF-Raw Saturday Night] Faarooq vs Steve Blackman
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in February 1998
Rock is far more horrified that his portrait got crimped than the fact that Faarooq lost a match. Faarooq trashes the picture entirely afterward and Rock is beside himself. Like Mero, Rock is an unabashedly shameless doofus meathead heel and it's great to watch. -
[1998-02-21-WWF-Raw Saturday Night] The Rock's gift to Faarooq
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in February 1998
Still a little weird in retrospect for Rock's promos not to be so catchphrase-centric and the catchphrases he does use ("The best damn Intercontinental champion there ever was...") being different from normal. This is a hilarious angle where Rock gives Kama, D'Lo, and Mark Henry Rolexes and Faarooq a portrait of himself, much to Faarooq's bemusement. -
[1998-02-21-WWF-Raw Saturday Night] Michael Hayes and Kane
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in February 1998
Really neat video package that sort of contradicts the previous standard WWF history--Hayes, not Cyndi Lauper, gets on-air credit for blending rock 'n wrestling. I like how they make sure to show a clip of Hayes using his boot as a weapon, too, considering how he tries to defend himself against Kane. As far as segments where Kane destroys people go I'm still partial to him tombstoning the Phoenix Suns gorilla mascot. -
[1998-02-21-WWF-Raw Saturday Night] Interview: Steve Austin
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in February 1998
Quick and to the point--Austin and his fanny pack have words for Chyna, Michaels, and Tyson, threatening JR all the while. -
[1998-02-21-WWF-Raw Saturday Night] Jim Cornette promo
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in February 1998
This isn't a bad promo but it's pretty badly out of place in this environment--I mean, it's SUPPOSED to be out of place, but even by that standard this angle just doesn't work. To give a partial answer to my question closing Thunder, I'm guessing more people give a fuck about the Luger/Savage alliance than about the return of Tommy fucking Young. -
[1998-02-21-WWF-Raw Saturday Night] Interview: Marc Mero & Sable
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in February 1998
This is about as good of a performance from Sable as you can hope for. Mero is pretty admirably shameless here, explaining that when Sable put his hands on him at No Way Out, he simply tripped over something. -
[1998-02-21-WWF-Raw Saturday Night] Chyna and Steve Austin
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in February 1998
I don't remember this angle going anywhere, but the video itself is pretty great, putting Chyna over as DX's anchor as well as her athletic accomplishments while we get footage of her mauling people. Hard to believe she was once seen as a Jacqueline ripoff--WCW really had something in her but couldn't have put together a video like this to make a new star to save their lives. -
Are we seriously supposed to buy that Savage has been unconscious for TWO HOURS? By all accounts he should be dead, even by pro wrestling logic. Goofiness of Savage in a Sting mask and the weird commentary aside--clearly none of these three were clued in as to what to get over or what was going to happen in this segment--this is a pretty WCW-by-numbers finish as has seemingly been the case for the past 4 or 5 months of TV. WCW did a great job in '96 and '97 of building week-to-week suspense and creating mysteries, but who really gives a fuck if Lex Luger and Randy Savage are in cahoots?
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Yes, it's cool to see someone update the Road Warrior template for where wrestling had been in the '90s, and I wish the submission aspect of his work had been played up more. Hard to argue with that pop for the spear and jackhammer, though. Finlay goes all out to get this guy over huge, bumping like crazy and begging off, getting in virtually zero offense. But a fun squash nevertheless.
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Tenay is standing with Chris Jericho in a location where they never do interviews solely so they have an excuse to chase after a surprise NWO attack outside the arena on Savage & Luger. Well, points for having some sort of reason for a camera being there, but yeah, that intro was pretty emblematic of where WCW was going.
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Why doesn't the cameraman let him out?
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[1998-02-18-ARSION-Grand Opening] Yumi Fukawa vs Candy Okutsu
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in February 1998
Some good stuff here blending some disparate styles. The work was intense throughout but the pace wasn't blistering--I don't know much about ARSION but I'm cautiously optimistic that it can take up the mantle of early-'90s JWP in utilizing a more deliberate pace and a more mat-based focus as a point of difference from AJW. This was more of an appetizer match so I don't really expect it to be on a MOTY list, but it's definitely the best match of February for whatever that's worth.- 8 replies
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I don't know what you people are talking about, this left me PUMPED to see Bret Hart against some guy no one had ever heard of. Yeah, yeah, it's Crush, but calling him "Brian Adams" like we all know that name (well, we do, but you know what I mean) doesn't do him, the NWO, or Bret any favors.
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Saturn looks weird with hair. He makes a nuisance of himself at ringside, interfering against Martel and indirectly costing Booker the match. I hope there's a real hidden Martel gem either on this Yearbook or on the Network somewhere.
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I really get what Bischoff was going for with these, trying to sell Nitro to better advertisers by showing that the program was watched by hip 18-34-year-olds. But some of these make me long for the days of the WCW Amateur Challenge...no, wait, nothing was worse than that. Nevermind.
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"Attica! Attica!" Yeah, that was a little more amusing the first time Nash did it, 2 years ago. His Hannibal Lecter impersonation is funnier and relates better to the storyline, but this angle is still, so, SO dumb. It's possible judging from the commentary that Tony Schiavone still doesn't know who the individual members of Public Enemy are.
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Lots of red flags for Spicoli leading up to this, sadly. This would be followed by a rather infamous moment later on, where Zbyszko refused to break character when talking about him, saying only that he wouldn't say anything at all "out of respect for his family." Huge, huge amounts of online criticism to Larry Z for that, mostly justified. This wasn't 1981 where it was vital to maintain kayfabe hatred for Bruno in and out of the ring.
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A pretty decent to good match but it feels like it be a really kickass TV main event masquerading as a PPV headliner. The structure is a little goofy and it ends too suddenly, and there are numerous cringeworthy-in-retrospect head shots here, but it ultimately accomplished its rather modest goals of teasing us of the big WM matches and giving the fans a satisfying payoff. Chyna getting attacked for the first time was a bigger moment than anything in the actual match--normally male babyface on heel woman violence isn't something that should be cheered, but they'd spent a full year establishing Chyna as being as tough as any male wrestler, so I'm okay with this.
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And the music! The MUSIC! That will be the greatest tragedy of all.