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    "Jimmy Hart my man, you squeaky little mouse..." What a friend Hulk is. Jimmy isn't as squeaky as Johnny Grunge, at least. Savage doesn't do anything except recite the names of the people involved in the main event. I'm happy for him that he was wrestling again, but Savage is already being wasted in this role. Hogan and Savage are the only things in WCW--nothing like coming out in the open and saying it. This is so, so, SO dated. Even Diesel and his '70s TV references seem more with the times.
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    Oh my God. Curls on top, straight hair in the back down past the shoulders. Still, with Pillman having been in total limbo for a full 12 months it's good to see him back doing something...anything. Pillman talks about his football career, complete with footage from Miami game action and Bengals practice. Then talk about his throat operations, a mere 4 and a half years after the right time to drop that little nugget. More talk about the Blonds split, which should NOT be talked about at this point. I'm a fan of invoking history both recent and past, but the Blonds needed to be dead and buried at this point. Pillman plugs the "hottest show on TV today," Baywatch! Maybe the next-hottest after Thunder in Paradise. Not all of this makes a great deal of sense, to put it mildly, but as I said I'm happy that they have any plans at all for Pillman. And yeah, the new Cruiserweight title was teased FOREVER, between TV hype and talk in the sheets, though the fact that it went even this far back surprises me.
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    Fun to see two great personalities like this finally getting a chance to go back and forth. New Jack promises to take out ALL of the Armstrongs--Brad, Steve, Scott, Sleepy, and Dopey!
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    Cornette skirts the line between making some decent points (or would be decent in a shoot setting and not said by a guy who's profiting more from white vs. black tensions than the guy he's feuding with) and ramping the Uncomfortability Meter up to 11. He's not a fan of Al Sharpton, or of reparations for slavery, apparently. And the attempt to justify some whites just plain not liking blacks is probably the most eyebrow-raising statement of all. The wrestling promo portion of this is much better. Note that this was clearly a WWF TV setting--in the Observer Meltzer remarked how shocked the backstage people were at the content of this promo. For an employee only exposed to New Generation WWF this stuff would certainly be quite the jolt.
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    Boo will go into Super Saturday Night Fever wearing the same tights that Cactus Jack lost his teeth and then his ear in. Good luck with that.
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    PG-13 destroy Scott Bowden with a bunch of slick double-teams, and they continue to bust out the offense against Rich & Gilbert. Gilbert is sporting a ridiculous orange-blond dye job. Gilbert uses TWO chains to steal a win, and the fall of the USWA must have brought about the demise of Builders Square and Home Quarters stores in Memphis and elsewhere. To have all these shenanigans with chains on one show is absolutely absurd. Hell, Bowden had the football helmet with him--at least change it up some. Wolfie and JC looked great, though, both in the ring and at the studio. They don't have any more title shots at Rich & Gilbert, but they will get them in a Hospital Elimination Match (wrestlers are eliminated only through first-blood rules) with no Scott Bowden at ringside.
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    Great segment, as one would expect with these two. The image of Dundee wrestling Sid is so hilarious that I hope to God that it actually happened. They seem to be teasing a Dundee heel turn, but not going all the way with it just yet--you expect Lawler is telling the truth that Dundee introduced the chain, but they're careful to leave some ambiguity and the possibility open that Dundee's actually in the right. Contrary to the popular perception of the Superstar in Memphis, we're 5 years into the '90s and aside from his WCW hiatus Dundee has been a babyface the entire time.
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    Michaels accuses Bret of having "changed." He brings up Bret's beard, which was grown for Lonesome Dove but certainly came off as evidence of a possible heel turn. Did we just retcon the Shawn/Diesel split for this segment? All of a sudden Shawn thinks Diesel is going to squash Bret, which sort of goes against the past 2 months of television. Shawn finally corrects himself and hopes that Bret and Diesel both destroy each other at the Rumble. Bret finally yanks the mic from Shawn and gets to the point at hand, which is hyping a PPV title match.
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    I don't have much to add about this, but I don't quite think Kawada was dominant enough for my liking. I get the relatively last-minute changing of the booking and the work and counters and mirror spots are all really great, but at times this felt like Kawada as traveling heel world champion being pushed to the limit by a challenger, when I think he would have been better off establishing himself as the dominant force. Kobashi still could have gotten over by taking all of Kawada's shots and repeatedly kicking out. That said, Kobashi's crawling around the ring in a desperate attempt to stay away from Kawada after being repeatedly Germaned was pretty great selling, and is now something I wish John Cena had tried last night. This is probably a 3rd straight AJPW Triple Crown match whose reach exceeded its grasp, but it was still much better than the two fall matches and the circumstances behind it were more understandable.
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    Dave did TV reports for AJPW, NJPW, and AJW that covered the whole show. I don't know to what extent the readers themselves were viewing everything as a whole, but those shows were being traded in full and Dave was watching just about everything and talking about it. I have to disagree on the merits of AJPW television. I went through the entire '91 and '92 seasons and had lots of fun picking up on the little running stories throughout the year, keeping track of who was close to getting wins over whom and enjoying the moments of triumph when a Kawada or Kobashi broke through with a big win. That was some of the easiest binge-watching I've ever done, and I had just started '93 when the Benoit thing happened and the whole project got shelved. I would have voted for Choshu as Booker of the Year for at least '90 and '91, but I can see the argument for Baba.
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    As far as "classic Gorilla" ruining a match--the pre-eminent example is the Savage/Tito no-DQ match from MSG. Even though Finkle announces plain as day that "there will be NO DISQUALIFICATIONS WHATSOEVER," Gorilla spends the entire match harping about the officiating. By the time Savage decks the referee and uses a chair, he's frothing at the mouth demanding that Savage be disqualified. It's enough that I can't even watch the match, and it's a shame because the work is fantastic. I will say that an announcer, like a manager, does have to get himself over to some extent--a good announcer has to have credibility and I certainly won't say that Gorilla was lacking in that department. And to attain credibility you do have to put yourself over to a degree. Look at Michael Cole to see what happens if your lead announcer doesn't have any.
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    The '92-'94 stuff is what's freshest in my mind, because that's the stuff I'm watching. ::shrug:: Of what I can remember... I already talked about Owen Hart in 1994 earlier. It doesn't sound like much but it was such a stupid and obviously counterproductive thing to say. Loss did a fantastic recap of Monsoon's performance in the Harts/Steiners match that you can find in the January '94 Yearbook thread. It wasn't good, and you can't use the excuse that he wasn't calling enough of a big-time match. He tended to shit on the heels to Ed Whalen-esque proportions, particularly Ric Flair. About the only time he ever actually put Flair over was during the '92 Rumble, because Flair's performance dragged him into doing so kicking and screaming. Otherwise, he would only talk about how inevitable it was that Flair was going to lose the title or how his figure four wasn't going to work on Piper or Hogan the way it worked on some TV jobber. Yes, it was Monsoon's job to be a babyface. Yes, it was his job to antagonize Heenan. But he just said tons of shit that I can't imagine McMahon saying. And even if it was past his prime (and the WWF's prime for that matter) it still happened and it still counts.
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    If Monsoon had never broadcast with anyone besides Jesse and Bobby (or the occasional Johnny Polo), that would be meaningful. But he did. Lots of times, especially once Jesse and Heenan were both gone. Usually to the show's detriment.
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    Monsoon in the '90s became a total shit show, especially after the Brain left but it was becoming a problem before. Whatever insights he offered in the '80s were totally gone--all he did was shit on the heels, banter with Heenan, and recite from his now-standard Book of Cliches ("Holy mackerel, it's pandemonium, you can cut the electricity with a knife," etc. etc. etc.) And no, Monsoon doesn't get a pass for not putting over the heels just because he was a babyface and the WWF was a comic book cartoon company. Monsoon's big retort to Owen Hart upon winning KOTR was "YOU GOT LUCKY!" when he beat Bret at WM10, a monumentally dumb thing to say for your #1 heel. Monsoon's stint on Raw as sub for Vince was such a rousing success that McMahon had to bring back Jim Ross to cover for the both of them. When Vince came back after his neck surgery, the narrative had gone from Owen being "lucky" to a guy who beat Bret Hart on Bret's very best day. Which one sells you more on a pay-per-view rematch? The issues with Gorilla go back further than that, but he was definitely more tolerable in the '80s. Still, at some point it would have been nice for him to do something besides sniff about how he's never seen anyone lose to a side headlock or armbar, and instead explain why one would utilize such a hold regardless (wear the opponent down, set him up for something else, etc.) That was rarely a tactic he took, because the focus in his mind was on how smart he was and not on the wrestlers.
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    There were other things working against the Dog angle. - They took a sex symbol with female fan appeal and covered him in a mask and a bodysuit, which was stupid and counterproductive regardless of what the planned endgame was. - There was absolutely NO weight given at all to the loser-leaves-town stip. It was matter-of-factly announced for the Clash and in that rushed, overbooked show was given about 4 minutes of ring time with no lip service given to the consequences of the result. With the way Ross had called Pillman's matches over the past 2 years, gushing about what a gutsy underdog he was as both a football player and a wrestler, Ross should have been wailing and gnashing his teeth over what a tragic and premature ending it was for the promising career of Flyin' Brian. Instead, the ostensible end of Pillman's career is nothing more than a segue to a Great American Bash report. It was so, so obvious that the LLT stip was nothing more than a blatant plot device to set up this mask angle--and since WCW had nothing left at this point but the hardcore fanbase who knew where this was going, they had to be less obvious than that. (Of course, if you go too far in the other direction, everyone's probably expecting Pillman to turn up in the WWF). - Keeping the same music for the Dog was dumb as well. Again, it was a clear broadcast by WCW that "This is just an angle, no need to get too emotionally involved here." - If you think the music is nitpicking, fine. But please explain how anyone can take the Dog seriously when he comes with Gary Cappetta enthusiastically introducing him as being "from the KENNEL CLUB!" - Windham had made a comment calling Pillman a "dirty yellow dog" in an earlier promo, but the name was still nonsensical. When Windham donned the mask in Florida, it was a response to his humiliation at the hands of Ron Bass, who had repeatedly labeled him with the epithet and then after a match put a saddle on him and "rode" him around the ring. Windham felt he had to don the mask and take on a new attitude as a way to redeem his shame--the mask took on a powerful figurative as well as literal disguise. Pillman, again, donned the mask because The Booking Said So, something that WCW's hamfisted presentation made obvious.
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    Brody had a pinfall loss to Jumbo in '88, but that was after the Abby match.
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    Doubtful. By the time Jesse showed up Lance was working almost exclusively on the Hotline.
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    I'm sure Bobby sat in at the podium in Georgia at some point or another while he was managing there. As I recall reading he always called Solie "Norman," "Morton," or anything besides his actual name (worked name, but you know what I mean). What I've always wondered about is if Solie & Ventura ever called anything together.
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    I'm guessing Dave wasn't nearly so dismissive of the strap used by Sting and Vader.
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    Heenan: "This is the song, ladies and gentlemen, that they played at Schiavone's third wedding." It's actually very eerily prescient of Spamalot's "This Is the Song That Goes Like This."
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    Amusing to watch how they put together a video for what was probably literally a $0 budget. It's all Raven walking through a snowy suburb with every possible camera trick that their $200 Wal-Mart equipment came with. I never liked Raven being associated with an uptempo punk number like Come Out and Play. Jimmy Hart's acoustic Come as You Are knock-off was a rare instance of WCW nailing a gimmick better than ECW. Raven cuts a quick promo afterward. Grunge was dead but the Big Two missed out on that trend entirely, so points to ECW for this anyway.
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    William Shatner will be in Bret's corner tonight as insurance against the Roadie for Bret's match against Double J. Stay tuned for the Raw debut of MANTAUR!
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    Very good TV match, designed to get over Kid and Holly as the ultimate underdogs heading into the tournament final at the Rumble (Holly also did a clean job to Tatanka that weekend). Bam Bam uses his forearms to block a Kid spin kick and levels him with an enzuigiri in a spot right out of All-Japan. Kid takes some wicked bumps here but Bigelow's backwards fall off the turnbuckle at the hands of Kid at the ending was great, too.
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    Harlem Heat are now under the tutelage of Sister Sherri, a combination that made me go WTF at the time but ended up having way more mileage than I expected. Okay-ish action that we see. Booker takes a great bump over the ropes off a Bagwell dropkick. Really wonky finish with Sherri distracting people for no reason and a big deal made about Patriot being illegal, but Bagwell was just standing on the apron making no attempt to get involved. I think they were supposed to have things more chaotic than they actually were.
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    Great, great segment. Cornette is out with a cane making his case, and when the Gangstas come out to confront him 3-on-1, gloating about his lack of backup and kicking out his cane(!), damned if I didn't start getting emotionally invested--it really looked like some heavy shit was about to go down and that Cornette was a dead man. Bob and Steve Armstrong make the save and Cornette makes one more plea for the Heavenly Bodies to be reinstated. Cornette points out that when a crime happens, the police aren't supposed to investigate only "if the victim is a nice guy." Bullet Bob is won over and grants the reinstatement, to a huge pop. I think these fans missed the Bodies quite a bit, even when they were hated. Yes, everything makes sense here--Cornette and the Bodies aren't white-hat-wearing heroes, and they're even more over for it. Hey...something tells me the WWF could find a way to adopt this formula!
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