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Bob's most focused (relatively speaking) promo yet, and maybe his best overall. Stern comments axioms for the plebeians, for Mr. McMahon, for Bret Hart, and for Diesel. Diesel vs. Bret at the Royal Rumble. What a great first major challenger for your new #1 babyface. This is like a poor man's version of Hogan having to turn around and wrestle against Bruno at the 2/84 MSG show. I still can't grasp why they couldn't let Backlund keep the belt until at least the Rumble and let Diesel win it there. Diesel makes some hackneyed comments about the colors of Bret's ring attire, trying to balance being "cool" with being a respectful babyface and ending up not being very good as either one.
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Is this Matt Borne? I sure hope so. Oh, the post tags say yes. These two do a good job of not letting the rounds break the momentum too much, as the psychology carries through each round rather than them doing a hard reset each time. Both guys work heel but the crowd tends to be on Doink's side, so in a way this is a teaser of what Borne could have done as a babyface Doink in an ideal world. The turn was a horrible idea, but the concept of Doink still wrestling with an edge has some appeal to me. Match went too long for such an abrupt finish, but still good and evidence that Borne still had something to offer in the ring.
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I believe the United Center was one of the arenas WCW was able to freeze the WWF out of during the Nitro Era. The Air Canada Centre and Philips Arena were two others, which is why the WWF always had to run SkyDome and the Georgia Dome. Since then, I think the WWF/E has determined that running Rosemont is easier as it's closer to O'Hare.
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[1994-12-17-WCW-Saturday Night] Blacktop Bully vignette
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in December 1994
A lawyer from the SEC wants to investigate where Col. Parker got his bailout money from. Funny! And a creative excuse to get a camera in there. The Bully's cell is filled to the brim with cartons of cigarettes, which is also a great touch. Objectively this is a silly gimmick and a ridiculous step down for Dustin, probably in favor of another one of Hogan's buddies. But I'm enjoying these segments way, way more than I should. I don't know who was behind them but they're a million miles away from the mini-movies, filmed vignettes, and amusement park bars of months and years past in WCW. Oh, and there's more. Unbelievably, they've worked out a logical reason for the Bully to get into wrestling! Because he owes Parker and can't pay him back with money! How the FUCK does a gimmick like this get more thought put into it than any other gimmick in WCW history to this point?- 4 replies
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Tammy controls Boo with an empty bag that supposedly has Boots the cat in it, a non-fact that even Ross subtly alludes to on commentary. Shockingly decent action here. I have no opinion on Balls Mahoney whatsoever but he looked like a perfectly acceptable worker in this, throwing some wicked punches. I like the DCOR, as Ross immediately jumps in to point out that "that will not happen at Christmas Chaos!" Good use of a non-finish for free television. Cactus is always gold at Christmastime. I giggle when even HE can't get through a Brian Lee-involved promo without invoking his height and weight.
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I wonder if this "agent" is Bob Harmon, an old Midwest-area worker. Good sneak attack by Buddy, and I'm really looking forward to what he does in this run. He's a worthy challenger for the title, something Anthony has rarely had aside from Jake. I like how he took the time to dust himself off after laying DWB out. Everyone (except Robert Gibson, who's just there) is on fire in the next segment. Ross drops more historical bombs, and Cornette is great as usual in responding. Morton promises the wrath of God if Cornette turns on them in their last title match, but Cornette then drops a new wrinkle at the end by promising a surprise at Christmas Chaos. Can't wait! New Jack calls out Cornette for not knowing what doing wrong *really* is. New Jack seems to have a surprise of his own. Landell cuts an awesome money promo, his line about Dirty White Girl and the plastic bag had me almost rolling. What an absurdly grandiose interview. "Ric Flair got beat by a guy who's closer to 60 than he is 30!" Holy shit. One of the best interviews of the year!
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[1994-12-17-WWF-Superstars] Heartbreak Hotel: Jeff Jarrett & The Roadie
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in December 1994
Shawn still does most of the talking but this was his best performance on a Heartbreak Hotel yet. I liked the comparison of the Roadie to Diesel's old role. -
[1994-12-16-RINGS] Akira Maeda vs Yoshihisa Yammamoto
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in December 1994
Yamamoto's such a terrific underdog putting in such a great over-his-head performance that the crowd actively BOOS Maeda when he retakes control. Wild. Pretty compelling match for that reason alone. -
EVERY mainstream article on wrestling has to use the term "slams" or "bodyslams" in the headline. It was annoying when Jesse Ventura "bodyslammed" his way into the governor's office, it's a hair-pullingly excruciating cliche now. I bring this up after various articles on WWE layoffs predictably used it.
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Joe vs the World #75 with Dylan Hales talking NXT
PeteF3 replied to Joe Gagne's topic in Publications and Podcasts
The talk of hipster wrestling fans at NXT has me wanting CJ Parker to do a sellout-hippie gimmick, giving the same spiel as before but also praising the business practices of Nestle or hawking Fruitopia (which may not be a thing anymore) and coming out to phony-psych music from Strawberry Alarm Clock. Probably too high-concept for a wrestling audience, even a hipster one. -
Two good segments. Cactus putting over ongoing WCW storylines is shockingly professional considering the way he left--I dug it. Logic and storylines trumping a guy's personal agenda, even across promotions. Woman doesn't appreciate what Cactus is saying about Sullivan and that leads to another Sandman sneak attack. Poor Mikey was feeling bad enough already, and this certainly won't help. Now after the previous Sandman/Cairo attack, Cactus announces his new alignment with Tommy Dreamer.
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I didn't know Cairo even stuck around after Dreamer took him out. He's aligned with Sandman now for no reason in particular. Both babyfaces stupidly turn their back on him while he's holding a Singapore cane, and that ends predictably.
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[1994-12-13-NJPW-Final Battle] Hiroshi Hase vs Shinya Hashimoto
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in December 1994
Count me as someone who liked the matwork too. That could be colored by me coming off watching some 2014 G1 Climax stuff where it seemed every match was fought stand-up with strike exchanges, and this felt like a breath of fresh air by comparison. These guys are just so good at the fundamentals that even the more deliberate, less dynamic work can be compelling. Great psychology once they start unleashing the bombs too. Hashimoto works over Hase's ribs while Hase seems to have scouted all of Hash's big moves--he rolls through the DDT and blocks a superplex attempt. After a hot run by Hase he attempts one Northern Lights too many (this is where that rib work pays off!), but with Hash not able to execute his DDTs he turns it around into an inverted DDT instead. Awesome stuff. He then absolutely kills Hase with a spin kick and then a fisherman buster to decisively put him away, but not without earning it. This was Hase's one and only shot at the IWGP title and he really deserved more of them.- 15 replies
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So apparently there is a Dongs squash where *Paul E* rips on them, which makes more sense as Cornette was a babyface still. That settles an issue I've spent entirely too much time thinking about. I agree that every single possible Funk promo should be on the set and that 6/5/89 be bumped if that's what it takes to make it happen. The "Rick Flaire" segment I'm sure is a lock, but I'm also begging for the two segments on Pro where Funk lays waste to two jobbers, and then a week later brings one of them back out and quizzes him on whether he or Flair is the better man. The job guy answers in favor of Funk every time, with Funk wrapping things up by reminding him, "Flattery will get you nowhere!" and giving him another piledriver on the interview set.
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I'd take Dave by himself over a few different guys in this poll. Not Lance of course, but Brown was far more than just a hanger-on.
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Right. "Botch" is a perfectly valid English word by itself. But in addition to the above, I think it's needlessly vague. For the title of a series of web videos it's fine, but for general wrestling discussion...if a spot gets blown, just call it a blown spot (or hell, even a botched spot). If a cue is missed, call it a missing the cue. If an interview line is flubbed...you can tell where I'm going with this. I think MOVEZ is an ironic term, a backlash against fans who tend to rate wrestlers by how large their moveset is (most of whom haven't seem to have existed since the late '90s/early '00s). Someone who cares to run a search can probably find me using it myself in the Yearbooks threads, but it certainly can come across as overly cutesy. "High-end offense" is another term that's used sarcastically (by me, a lot) more than it's used literally.
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Get a WWF Holiday Wish Bear. This Raw is notable for taking place in, quite literally, a high school gym. The WWF banner at the entrance way is practically at eye level. For the past 12 months the WWF has continued to find new ways in which to bottom out. I'm fine with intimate settings but this glorified indy set-up would look bad on a 1986 edition of NWA Pro. Lawler tosses some feeble jokes at the crowd. IRS is our guest on the King's Court, and his Druids are with him. This was something that seemed to be building to a big reveal and then the whole thing was completely dropped after the Rumble. IRS cuts a promo on various tax-cheating baseball players before getting to the Undertaker, who's skimping on taxes owed on his urn. What an utterly bizarre feud.
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Slow start, but I dug the shoot-style matwork between Mutoh and Scott here. Much better than the matwork in the Dome match. Still, this is overall pretty listless until Rick heaves Hase halfway across the ring onto his fucking head, and then this picks up. Not to the point where it's as good as the best Steiners match, but a good solid bout with some cool twists--Rick gets two huge kickouts, one from a Mutoh moonsault, after it looks like he's dead. Hase's Golden Arm Bomber is still one of the all-time great transition spots. SuperCena The SuperSteiners win yet again.
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Goddamned if I didn't like the Bully vignette myself. WCW did a shockingly good job of making it really look authentic, and Parker was really good as you would expect. Even the officer was good. Hogan actually deigns to put Sting over somewhat. Not much else to this. Avalanche is billed as 6'10", 500 pounds, which is on the same level as Andre being "700 pounds."
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An agent from California is calling SMW insisting that his client get a title shot at the Dirty White Boy. Ron West insists that this guy work his way up to the #1 spot, but DWB has turned back Jake Roberts and Terry Gordy and is fine signing an open contract. DWB has been in desperate need for a legitimate challenger since Jake left. I giggle involuntarily at Ross' closing, "Good luck, White Boy." Cornette is still a full-fledged heel despite his new alignment. Chip Kessler narrates a video piece in front of door behind which is a bunch of shouting. Cornette is still confident, but Ross wants to talk Ricky & Robert out of this arrangement. Another great segment from Cornette, who is doing his damnedest with this late run to overtake New Jack for the Best Interview Award. It's wintertime, so Boo Bradley has been updgraded from a cardboard box to Chris & Tammy's apartment building boiler room. Tammy will take Boo's cat until he runs Cactus Jack out of SMW, or else the cat takes a trip to the river. Cactus responds in chilling fashion, after having been taken to the limit by Candido the previous week. New Jack is unabashedly proud of how much cheating the Gangstas do to hang onto the tag titles. The race-war aspect of this feud is pretty much gone, but New Jack is as effective of a talker as ever. We just saw the top 3 interviews of '94 back-to-back-to-back.
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I thought it was an improvement over Royal Rumble, though having Luna take up a roster spot was dumb. Yes, this is very Attitude-like. And I was legitimately surprised that his ad featured UT, Bret, Razor, and Diesel all whaling on each other. The 1989-90 WWF would never, ever have done that...this was a company that made sure not to show Hogan or Warrior toys showing vulnerability, after all. Kind of shows what a horrible situation the heel side was in at this point.
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[1994-12-10-WWF-Superstars] Henry Godwinn vignette / Left Guard commercial
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in December 1994
We're all slop-eatin' hogs. These aren't as bad as the Dumpster vignettes but they're not a whole lot better. I remembered the Headshrinkers commercial but don't think I've thought about it since it aired. Fatu and the Barbarian in tuxes is pretty much a guaranteed laugh, and Alfred's appalled voiceover is pretty great. -
Last few minutes of some decent action as Hasegawa gets in a bunch of hope spots but is ultimately put down by Aja. Next match is all about the monsters guzzling Toyota & Inoue, and it's pretty effective as instead of Toyota flying all over the place she does what she does better than anyone, which is get twisted into knots. Aja & Bennett dominate the entire match but Toyota gets in her Victory Star Drop on Aja for a shock pinfall. Out-of-nowhere, but that move is treated as a killer so I can buy it. So evidently this is a round-robin or gauntlet or something, because back come Hasegawa & the Other Inoue. Last match starts off slow then turns into a sprint towards the end. Not a psychological masterpiece--I didn't like Toyota's JOCS getting basically blown off the first time she does it--but they do hit all their spots and this doesn't drift too far into excess. Toyota scores both pins and it looks like her WWWA title push is underway.
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