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If it were that "clear" then he'd already be voted in. Not only is your narrative just as convenient and simplistic as the people's with whom you're arguing, but why *shouldn't* we emphasize work for an institution where work matters? Daddy is a much less skeevy Fabulous Moolah. Both bring zero positives or outright negatives as workers or influencers and their cases revolve entirely around the nebulous and tautological idea of already being famous. Daddy doesn't even have Hogan's resume of launching promotions to new heights--British wrestling had already peaked as a crossover phenomenon when his star exploded.

Halls of Fame bestow fame, they don't honor it in and of itself.

With Daddy, for me it comes down to: 1.) He was super-famous, but I don't feel he was as big of a draw as his rep--British wrestling as a whole was bigger in the '60s and '70s than it was in the '80s and certainly in the '90s. 2.) In the 3 major Observer HOF criteria--drawing power, quality of work, and positive influence--he's say a 9.5/10 in one category and a zero to negative in the other two. I fully agree that drawing in the UK is different than drawing in the US, but even if Daddy sold out Wembley Arena 185 straight times like Bruno's MSG legend I wouldn't see him as a HOFer, because his influence was universally negative (why would anyone want to hold *him* up as an example of what British wrestling was like?, and he ended up killing the golden goose anyway, or at least being a major contributing factor) and his quality of work was nonexistent. Only Tiger Jeet Singh compares in terms of sheer non-output over the course of so many years.

I'm comfortable putting Jake vs. Sawyer in the ****-****1/2 range. Sawyer is really good too, but this is a Jake masterpiece. He has all of those "little things" psychology-wise that everyone likes to talk about, but he also adds some pure viciousness and even some high-end offense to his demolition of Brett Wayne. The added drama from Ole, II, and Buzz all on the outside is great as well.

Sad news, as it appears Rassle Reel has gotten taken down. I don't know if he had anything ultra-valuable, but as a general reminder, save shit!

Cawthon had match times and finishes for most of that MSG card, including that match, so I assumed it was out some way or another.

Three of the four are out there already, but not exactly easy to just find on Youtube on a stable channel, at least. But an early Konnan dark match tryout against Art Barr of all people? Yes, please! Edit: Graham has Barr working the Juicer gimmick, which I believe is how PWI reported it at the time as well. That may be an interesting visual in a WWF ring.

A DANNY HODGE match??! Hodge footage is an absolute holy grail.

Not to mention the Last Battle of Atlanta turning up. Here's hoping Flair vs. Backlund is in there somewhere.

Boris Malenko did something like this in Florida, showing up on TV the next week with a train ticket proving that he had in fact left town. I always wanted one of those falls-count-anywhere-in-the-building stips (or "falls count anywhere on the Gulf Coast," "falls count anywhere in Georgia," etc.) stips to be enforced literally. There's a brawl to the back entrance and a pin attempt--"One, two, and...oh, he JUST got his foot outside the door!" Also, has anyone ever won an FCA match by cradling up their opponent and putting their feet on the guardrail for leverage?