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[1990-03-17-WWF-Superstars] Hulk Hogan and Ultimate Warrior promos
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in March 1990
Hogan goes all Taoist on us talking about the sun, earth, and moon all being as one and whatever the fuck that has to do with selling us on WrestleMania VI, someone else is going to have to explain. Warrior gives his most nonsensical promo yet, but at least keeps from inadvertently heeling himself this time (I think). He wraps it up by saying he can't protect Hogan from the Ultimate Wohhhyah, then gives the hilarious look of someone who was just approached from behind by JBL in the shower.- 10 replies
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[1990-03-17-WWF-Superstars] Jesse Ventura picks a winner
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in March 1990
Thank God this rare moment of posterity has been preserved: Jesse acting like a full-fledged Hulkamaniac. I laughed at Jesse taking offense at Vince's "apology" to Hogan and scuffling with him. -
I had to confirm that this wasn't a repeat of the previous match. In the short amount of footage there was a pretty contrived-looking ref bump and Adams rather stupidly running right at Akbar so he could get tripped.
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[1990-03-16-NWA-Power Hour] Louisville Slugger: Ole Anderson
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in March 1990
Ole methodically details how he's going to destroy the Steiners' arms and then maybe go for the eye. If I have this timeline right, Ole's big plan is a pretty underwhelming one.- 11 replies
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The first fall was kind of a tepid rudo beatdown but the technico showcase in the second was something. I actually liked Satanico the most of anyone here, as he threw some great punches and just showed great fire in general. Estrada takes a death-defying bump to nowhere but comes back in the third fall to get the decisive pin on Satanico. Unfortunately the first and third falls didn't measure up to a really fun second. Heated post-match with Satanico challenging (or maybe just reminding) Estrada to a hair vs. hair match.
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[1990-03-11-WWF-Wrestling Challenge] Interview: Roddy Piper
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in March 1990
Insects are invertebrates, yes. Most of this makes absolutely no sense at all in that '90s Piper way. That said, he sort of pulls it together at the end by asking rhetorically, "Ain't I crazy enough to get the job done?!" Gorilla concurs with, "He IS crazy!" Then when Piper turns the black half of his face to the camera as his music hits, he does a fucking Zip Coon minstrel routine. Bad News had a PROBLEM working with this guy? You don't fucking say. -
Atlas talks trash to, I'm presuming, Rochester Roadblock. Again...work issues aside, it's incredible that only fucking ICW saw fit to see the things that Atlas could still bring to the table.
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Decent segment with Kerry vacillating between lucidity and incoherence, and Travis actually doing the same. After issuing a challenge to Travis to the same "leave the ring with the belt to win" stipulation he just fought for against Soultaker, Kerry says he'll "look around" for the rightful Texas Heavyweight champion, allowing him to sloowly discus punch Travis and take the title belt back.
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[1990-03-10-USWA-Championship Sports] Interview: Jerry Lawler
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in March 1990
I'm guessing Lawler was more repulsed by the fact that the chicks in Dallas were of legal age rather than that they were hairy-legged. I would think pimply-faced would be a turn-on for Lawler, though. Lawler promises to make an example out of Jarrett for the "retarded" fans in Dallas and USWA officials who deem him worthy of a title match. So USWA Texas had its own separate lineage for the Unified title?- 11 replies
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[1990-03-10-USWA-Championship Sports] Texas NAWA Wrestling Commercial
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in March 1990
First I rolled my eyes at the description of the Longhorn Ballroom as "legendary" but holy Christ is there some history to that place. Built by Bob Wills. Once owned by Jack Ruby. Anybody who was anybody in country music performed there. The fucking Sex Pistols somehow got booked there and antagonized the audience until a woman assaulted Sid Vicious. 2 Live Crew started a mini-riot there once. Oh, and it hosted NAWA wrestling. -
Passable promo from Pillman, Zenk is lousy. Cornette is his usual self and Lane gets in an enjoyable line about how much he hates pretty boys. This picks up in a hurry once Pillman goes FIP, with the Midnights punishing him with some great offense mostly centered around the throat and neck. JR teases that Cornette "found out" something about Pillman but nothing is divulged. Zenk gets the tag but is quickly put down with the tennis racket, and an absolutely killer post-match beatdown follows. The Midnights hit Pillman with the Veg-o-Matic with Cornette holding the racket over Pillman's throat, Cornette picks off a parade of jobbers at will with racket shots as they try to enter the ring, and then starts doing elbowdrops with the racket into Pillman's throat. Just a fucking shame that they decided to let all of this go to waste. WCW never did get to use that angle they wanted to "save."
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I'm somewhat of a lucha novice myself but I've at least seen a little and followed some more. I think a quick Lucha Rules 101 would be helpful as I noticed JVK was taken by surprise by the 2 out of 3 falls stip in the '90 yearbook's first match: - Most matches are 6-mans and these are invariably 2 out of 3 falls, captains' rules. To win a fall you either have to defeat the designated captain or both of his partners. Many falls end with all 3 guys being pinned at once or in rapid succession. - Piledrivers are illegal and are sold big time. The martinete (tombstone) is also illegal and is an almost automatic stretcher job. - If a wrestler leaves/is thrown out of the ring one of his partners can immediately take his place. - Removing an opponent's mask is an automatic DQ. The low blow leading to a DQ is a very common finish, as is the rudo feigning getting low-blowed and getting his opponent disqualified. - Submissions are common and EVERYBODY submits no matter how big of a star they are, at least for non-decisive falls--there's no stigma attached to it like there was for a long time in the U.S. Not a lot of "fighting" in the big submission finishers, either--once it's applied, more often than not the fall is quickly over. - Mask vs. mask, mask vs. hair, or hair vs. hair matches are usually the biggest singles matches, and in terms of gates/drawing I think it's safe to say they're a bigger deal than title matches. - Lucha mats are harder than elsewhere in the world, so you're going to see a lot of the rolling bumps that get luchadores to somewhat derisively be called "tumblers." It's definitely safer than taking flat back bumps but it does take some getting used to as a viewer.
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[1990-03-10-WWF-Superstars] Hulk Hogan and Ultimate Warrior promos
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in March 1990
Hogan starts off with complete bullshit and eventually wraps it up into something more coherent, which is sort of the opposite of how his promos for this feud have gone. It does say a lot that he believes Warrior's big accomplishment will be becoming the "#1 Hulkamaniac." Warrior encourages Hoke Ogan to seize control of a plane and crash it, presumably into the SkyDome. "You must self-destruct, Ho Kogan, so that you know who is...the Chosen One." Jeez, he's not only coming off as a messianic heel, now he's coming off as a cowardly one. "Beat yourself, so I don't have to"? That's the message of our new #1 babyface?- 12 replies
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[1990-03-09-USWA Texas] Steve Austin vs Chris Adams / Interview: Chris Adams
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in March 1990
Austin doesn't do a whole lot besides the sleeper. Akbar slips Austin brass knucks, but they're hijacked by Adams, only for Tony Falk to catch him for the DQ. Adams announces that next week will be a Scientific Wrestling Match between him and Steve Williams--one punch or hair pull is a disqualification.- 8 replies
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Garvin works this like Bobby Heenan, constantly running away from trouble and only tagging in at strategic points...and tagging right back out if he got touched. Travis does provide some funky offense--that weird sliding uppercut/neckbreaker thing, and a Vaderbomb/elbow drop, but the Jarrett FIP segment doesn't last too long and ends rather easily, and then we go to a double countout. I didn't pick up on the chant, though I did enjoy one fan taunting Garvin with an oversized baby bottle and Marc Lowrance's continued euphemisms to describe Garvin ("unusual" ... "the Liberace of wrestling").
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[1990-03-08] Entertainment Tonight: Superstar Graham & Bruno Sammartino
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in March 1990
Bruno and Graham independently peg the number of wrestlers using steroids at 90%. Graham says he's the first pro athlete to come clean about using and abusing steroids, which he may actually be correct about--I think Lyle Alzado was a couple of years later. And that's about it--hard-hitting in-depth coverage worthy of the ET name.- 12 replies
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Wait, was this a DQ or did Tenryu tap? I figured that was why Hansen turned on him. Good stuff while it lasted, with a pretty epic tease of whether or not Tenryu could make the hot tag. The fact that sometimes the hot tag just didn't happen in All-Japan adds to the suspense of it. We get the makings afterward of a three-way feud, probably with respective factions, when Jumbo saves Tenryu from a Hansen attack, which doesn't curry much appreciation from Tenryu.
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[1990-03-06-AJPW-Excite Series] Tiger Mask vs Kenta Kobashi
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in March 1990
Kobashi doesn't quite get everything right but a lot of the classic touches are already there--the rolling cradle, bodyslam+moonsault+kickout+cry and pound mat, etc. Most of this is worked very junior-y with the trading arm drags and faceoffs and kip ups and all that. We do get some good old-fashioned AJPW near-falls and a VERY well-done buildup to the Tiger Driver finish. Still, Misawa was pretty much going through the motions here and the first half to 2/3 of the match wasn't bad (except for that neckbreaker) but pretty unmemorable. The last part was more Stuff than great psychology (except for Kobashi trying to avoid the TD), but it was pretty fun Stuff.- 16 replies
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[1990-03-03-ICW-TV] Tony Atlas, Paul E. Dangerously and Austin Idol
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in March 1990
Maybe it was just some random Kowalski trainee, as the Pink Assassin apparently was.- 10 replies
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DDP gropes two Diamond Dolls while cutting a promo declaring his intentions to come after Paul E. to avenge an attack on him down in Florida. Typical "cram 9 million catchphrases into one interview" promo with DDP sort of sounding like a southern Roddy Piper.
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[1990-03-03-ICW-TV] Interview: Paul E. Dangerously & Lethal Weapons
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in March 1990
Paul E. does his best to get this over, claiming the Lethal Weapons are his best team and even declares that he isn't "doing a Lou Albano" and saying his latest team is automatically the best. Doug Gilbert is the "problem child" of the Gilbert family, which is saying something, and Paul E. doesn't even like him. They're not a "family," they're not a "stable"--they're an Alliance. -
The Pink Assassin minces around the ring while raking eyes and straddling his opponent on pin attempts. I love that they don't bother to edit this into a real music video, they just take footage and hit the Demo button on a Yamaha keyboard lay a synth track on top of it. Diamond Jim(?) says that he intends to "straighten this guy out." The Assassin, whoever he is, plays the gimmick to the hilt and declares that he is from Fire Island, New York--"and judging by that cowboy hat and that shirt, you've been there a time or two yourself!" Diamond Joe doesn't want to be touched by this guy and assaults him for doing it too often, repeats the "straighten this guy out" line, and gives him a spanking. Holy shit, I barely know what to say. Even in a not-overly-tolerant world like professional wrestling, Diamond Bill is about the most heelish babyface in history.
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[1990-03-03-ICW-TV] Tony Atlas, Paul E. Dangerously and Austin Idol
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in March 1990
Jesus, Atlas has been a fucking revelation here. What a complete fucking waste that neither of the Big Two were able to find any way to use him in a manner, at this point, befitting his absurdly underrated mic skills. I know he was past done in the ring, but THAT never stopped anybody in charge. Actually I'd like to have seen Atlas get involved in the Lawler/Snowman feud. At the desk they run down what actually looks like quite a fun card in Philadelphia, and Paul E. informs Paul Orndorff that he made a grave mistake in signing an open contract and allowing himself to face a member of the Dangerous Alliance. Was Leopard Man Johnny Grunge, or somebody else?- 10 replies
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VQ still makes it hard to understand Atlas, but he makes threats towards Rochester Roadblock, who's only challenging him because he's pumped full of steroids, and Tom Prichard. He wraps it up with an Elmer Fudd laugh! Tony also looks like a legit psycho badass--actually for a second I thought this was a way-early New Jack promo.