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"Knocked Jamie Dundee's beer right out of his hand! C'mon, Danny B, kill him!" If that little commentary snippet doesn't sum up KAW in two seconds, well... Jamie gets off about 4 or 5 holy-shit-worthy lines, that would either get him thrown off the air today or be offered a seat in the Trump Cabinet.
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This one veers uncomfortably close to looking like a real domestic incident, which I didn't quite care for. The idea of Tommy Rogers scuzzying it up as a psycho heel is somewhat amusing, though.
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A full version would be nice, but as it is, not a half a second goes by without some sort of horrific, ghastly violence taking place and it's pretty glorious to watch. This is a rabid pro-Onita crowd and the visual of Onita unleashing offense and attempting pins with a giant barbed wire skirt is pretty great.
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Better and more heated than Robinson vs. George the night before, though Robinson was way better than either of the Posse. Yet another example of the type of thing that the WWF just does better than WCW. The stakes seem higher, the stipulations are better laid-out, the personal grudge even for two comedy duos seems real and believable, and there's actual build and psychology involved in the match.
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'90s trash TV at its...er, finest. Misogynistic and transphobic all at once, though I confess to laughing at Shawn's "BACK OFF, MISTER!" at the time. For a supposed wannabe actress Sable does a horrible job of acting like she's upset at losing her title, so the women aren't off the hook here either. Shawn was out of it here, for sure. Not positive, but this might actually be Sable's last appearance.
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That hype video was almost laugh-out-loud funny. Basically it's R.E.M.'s music video for "Bang and Blame" with the band subbed out for action shots, alongside hilariously random pictures of the two interspersed. I guess this is what you have to do when there isn't any actual story to tell. Bischoff is still making executive decisions for some inexplicable reason. But the ends justify the means: Nash the booker, over his own objections, selflessly gives in to the demands, letters, calls, and telegrams from the fans insisting that he be made WCW World champion.
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Okay action but it looks like a far cry from their Nitro match. I don't have a problem with Bret's run-in but the Steiners beatdown is absurd, though it ranks way down on the list of infuriating things to happen on this show--even if you just limit it to stuff involving Rick Steiner.
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BY WHAT AUTHORITY CAN BISCHOFF REVERSE THIS DECISION?? Good Lord this is horrible, and once again, fuck St. Louis for cheering Bischoff like this. Of course as usual no one clued in the announcers so they don't know what exactly to sell--Schiavone manages to pick up on Flair clearly submitting, but fucking TENAY says he didn't hear it. Incredible--even if they *weren't* told you'd think Tenay could figure out how wrestling (or improv) works and go along with it. *None* of the announcers have any idea how to sell the post-match, and why should they?
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[1999-05-09-WCW-Slamboree] Gorgeous George vs Charles Robinson
PeteF3 replied to Superstar Sleeze's topic in May 1999
I don't know if I liked this as much as Sleeze but I'm definitely not sorry I checked it out. George is very game but Robinson actually looks like an honest-to-God wrestler in there. All the Flair tribute spots are there, of course, but Robinson executes the basics at least as well as Jim Cornette did. I think I'd pay to see Robinson work a match against Mark Curtis. -
Monumentally dumb on all levels. Crowd is so dead to start that we can hear everything Nick Patrick says. Then they actually get behind Rick and bark for him and cheer for his victory. I always hated St. Louis' phony-baloney "best fans in baseball" gimmick and now we have definitive proof that the idea that Sam Muchnick catered to the smartest and most sophisticated wrestling fans in the country was also bullshit. This is the beginning of Rick Steiner being possibly the worst worker in the world and one of my least-favorite ever.
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On a disappointing note, Steiners-Money Inc. must not be in the vault or lost, because they have the dark match main event from that taping (MegaManiacs vs. Money Inc. with Slaughter as the guest ref) but not the title change that opened it.
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Here it is! I'm most excited to see Duane Gill & Barry Hardy's match as "The Toxic Turtles." Other matches of note include Bret vs. Davey Boy from 6/30/92, Hogan vs. Flair from 11/91 (not the Dayton match, unfortunately), a test run of the WM7 blindfold match from January, Flair vs. Piper, a Piper's Pit with the Brooklyn Brawler from 1992 when there were plans to bring that back, and tryout/dark matches for Brian Adams (in '89), Chris Chavis as "War Eagle," the aforementioned Turtles, and the Tazmaniac. I'm sold.
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I knew as soon as Taz started smiling that Jeff Jones was going to get it, but that doesn't make this segment any less fun. Taz storms the ring as TV taping preparations are still ongoing, and gets asked to leave by the future Bilvis Wesley. Taz lays him out and does a little ventriloquism act with his body. Taz is definitely an asshole babyface but he's a self-aware, unapologetic one, which puts him closer to Austin territory than Rock's bullying character.
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Sorry, but ECW already had a Stevie Richards. I know Corino can be a good loudmouthed heel, so give us that instead of this cowardly crybaby act. As Bill Watts' philosophy went when utilizing Buddy Landell--tough guys who *can* fight but choose not to draw more heat than out-and-out ineffectual coward wimps. The shooty-shoot bullshit talk to open the promo put me in a sour mood to start with, and the only highlight here was Corino lamenting that his doctors "could only remove one appendix at a time."
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Kind of a choke job by Team No Respect on home turf here, jumping out to a 5-3 lead but falling in the end. I'd put this in the "good but not great" category--even very good but not great. As a tribute to the classic '80s NJPW elimination matches, complete with face-saving rules, it works. Ishikawa ramping up the Inoki tribute act full-bore works too, even though it's weird to see Team No Respect in against another group doing the disrespectful punk heel gimmick. I'm afraid the match I visualized in my head upon seeing the participants overshadowed the final result, as I was hoping for a more NJPW-vs.-UWF(I)-esque conflict of styles and philosophies, and instead we mostly got the BattlArts guys working pure pro-style. The Matsunaga match from last year showed that deathmatch vs. shootstyle could actually work, but I don't think they fully committed enough to the wacky-mismatch concept, at least for my tastes. The Gannosuke-Ikeda showdown is the best part of the match (aside from Ishikawa's opening) and the result is an eyebrow-raiser, so it's memorable in that regard.
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Well, no complaints about my first real glimpse at Osaka Pro so far, as this is hard-hitting and intense, possibly moreso than your average MPro or Toryumon 6-man tag, if only because of Togo's presence pushing and elevating everyone around him. Six guys beat the shit out of each other for 10-12 minutes, but with a nicely defined face-heel structure and a feelgood, payback spot-oriented finish.
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Not sure if it's better or worse than the previous bout but it's certainly more focused, as Yagi lasers in on Yoshida's arm and Mariko has to fight just to stay alive. Really good drama down the stretch with Yagi getting a big submission win--either that or a big sudden KO blow from Yoshida seemed to be the only realistic results.
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I don't know if I'd call it the best ever as it's sort of an appetizer for (what I hope is) a promising final, but it's a hell of a rush for ten minutes of matwork. We have the Yearbook debut of Yoshida's Spider Twist, possibly the coolest submission hold ever, and a game Fukawa who always seems to have a cross armbreaker in her pocket to give Yoshida fits.
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Between the Sheets #99 (June 7-13, 1993) (Featuring Tom Green)
PeteF3 replied to KrisZ's topic in Publications and Podcasts
I'm really, really lost as to the criticism of Hogan's selling at KOTR. Why book a fireball finish if he's *not* supposed to sell the eyes? Ross put over the eye injuries afterward, though admittedly it's somewhat talked over by Heenan and Savage. There's lots of interesting stuff going on in that match but I don't have any issue with Hogan selling (Bix also pointed out that the fire "didn't even hit him in the eyes," but in kayfabe it did). Edit: I'm 99% sure the photographer was Wippleman. -
Between the Sheets #99 (June 7-13, 1993) (Featuring Tom Green)
PeteF3 replied to KrisZ's topic in Publications and Podcasts
So was Catherine White's identity 100% confirmed? I remember Dave reporting her as being Kathy Gagne one week, but then a few weeks later walking that back without actually saying who she really was. That was me buying L'Age D'Or...at 50 bucks for a book in a language I don't speak it's admittedly a rather pricey lark, but I'm hoping there's some good info in there and that it's a bit more organized than Bob Plantin's massive but messy ALPRA site. -
Even the worst segments of Raw displayed just how far ahead of WCW the company had gotten. In addition to the good brawl here, it can't be overstated how important it was that Ross was back on commentary. Cole could have made these segments unwatchable, but with Ross selling them to the fullest extent they ranged from good to merely eye-rolling at worst.