PeteF3
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LOL at Nash calling out Bret for being "out of control" and challenges him on Goldberg's behalf. Yeah, this makes perfect sense. The idea of a match on the Tonight Show was an intriguing one but this was so not the way to go about it, not that it would matter in the end anyway. Bret's good here, at least.
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Eh. Two minutes after the finger thing, Dirty White Boy is out and completely no-selling it ("You expect us to believe that this big piece of toilet paper is 3000 years old?!"). The sand in the finger can be faked just as easily in storyline as it obviously was in real life.
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I never got the Attitude Era Unseen set but I'm pretty sure most of those matches didn't have any commentary, and I'm outright hoping for the same here, or at least give us the audio option for it.
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Cornette has always stressed that Prince Kharis was never pushed as an actual mummy--he was a protege of a delusional madman *claiming* he was 3000 years old, but wasn't.
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Also, just because Bruce brought it up as a possibility doesn't mean it ever got past the "Hey, what about this?" brainstorming stage. He was in the inner circle of the creative team, so he'd hear just about every possible pitch, from the ones that were nearly put into action to the stuff that was suggested and quickly dismissed. -
The Jim Ross Is A Grouchy Hateful Vile Human Being thread
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in Megathread archive
"Someone oughta tell all these young wrestlers that shoot headbutts just ain't safe, gang." Seriously though, as someone who doesn't get AXS to hear it myself, I'm willing to give JR the benefit of the doubt on this. Shoot headbutts are stupid and anything that discourages anybody from trying them is probably a net positive. -
What complete Hogan/Jake match would be on tape?
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I haven't heard it either, but supposedly according to Bruce they were kicking around the idea of Dustin vs. Hogan at WM9. Yes, really--I guess the thinking was that Dusty and by proxy Dustin might have been a potential free agent with the change in WCW regimes going on at the time, and that Dusty might have been out along with Watts and JR. I don't know if I believe it but to me, it's more plausible than Matt Borne's contention that Doink vs. Hogan was supposed to happen at that show.
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411mania posted a list of "Extras," more matches. Didn't clarify if it was for a Blu-Ray release or an extra retailer-exclusive disc. Most exciting for me is the match Mike Shaw had as The Mad Monk. We also get an extra Phantasio match, Hogan vs. Savage in a cage, Ultimate Warrior vs. Kamala, tryouts for the Harris Twins and Harlem Knights, and others.
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Irrational pet peeves displayed by carny wrestlers
PeteF3 replied to supersonic's topic in Pro Wrestling
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The heat machine is out for part of this, but this is really one of the better WWF TV matches of the year. Some really good out-of-the-ring brawling and some great punches, even as some of this is Austin-and-HHH-by-numbers. HHH had had a string of disappointing performances since SummerSlam when put into "good match" situations, and he got himself back on track here...those of us who decry 2001-02, maybe Austin in May of '99 is really the guy to blame. Post-match is what it is.
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I take it back--give me more of Savage and Nash. Marianna is no actress, as you can see.
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So...after being a pure babyface the night before, with the crowd behind him and behind Gorgeous George, now Savage is a heel. WCW, everybody. The lipstick stuff is dumb, all the moreso because it's given absolutely no focus or attention. The only good part about this was Savage trying to shove Doug Dillenger away so he could get some more licks in on the fan.
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Boy oh boy, does Bischoff ever sound like he's reading off cue cards. Eric bragging about how he has "the most committed employees" is the biggest howler among several. Bischoff says he wasn't even considering whether he was acting in an official capacity, so at least they're coming right out and saying that this makes no sense. Take a drink every time Eric says "in my mind." Oh, and he dares Harvey Schiller or the Turner brass to do something about the referee's decision being final, even though he just overruled the referee twice the night before.
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This had some well-laid out spots and overall was pretty enjoyable action, though I could have done without all the run-ins at the finish, and *especially* the shooty-shoot bullshit that seems to crop up whenever Cyrus is either speaking or on-camera. But for two workers I don't really care about, this was fun.
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A lot of fun, more sports-entertainment-y than their house show match but just as good, with some innovative offense and Big Sal being used well. Guido's facefirst splat onto the ramp was an all-timer of a bump for him.
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"Knocked Jamie Dundee's beer right out of his hand! C'mon, Danny B, kill him!" If that little commentary snippet doesn't sum up KAW in two seconds, well... Jamie gets off about 4 or 5 holy-shit-worthy lines, that would either get him thrown off the air today or be offered a seat in the Trump Cabinet.
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This one veers uncomfortably close to looking like a real domestic incident, which I didn't quite care for. The idea of Tommy Rogers scuzzying it up as a psycho heel is somewhat amusing, though.
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A full version would be nice, but as it is, not a half a second goes by without some sort of horrific, ghastly violence taking place and it's pretty glorious to watch. This is a rabid pro-Onita crowd and the visual of Onita unleashing offense and attempting pins with a giant barbed wire skirt is pretty great.
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Good send-the-crowd-home-happy moment for an unopposed show--a lesson that WCW never quite learned. Austin drops Shane with the Stunner, but prevents Vince from making the pin so he can Stun and pin Shane himself.
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Better and more heated than Robinson vs. George the night before, though Robinson was way better than either of the Posse. Yet another example of the type of thing that the WWF just does better than WCW. The stakes seem higher, the stipulations are better laid-out, the personal grudge even for two comedy duos seems real and believable, and there's actual build and psychology involved in the match.
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'90s trash TV at its...er, finest. Misogynistic and transphobic all at once, though I confess to laughing at Shawn's "BACK OFF, MISTER!" at the time. For a supposed wannabe actress Sable does a horrible job of acting like she's upset at losing her title, so the women aren't off the hook here either. Shawn was out of it here, for sure. Not positive, but this might actually be Sable's last appearance.
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That hype video was almost laugh-out-loud funny. Basically it's R.E.M.'s music video for "Bang and Blame" with the band subbed out for action shots, alongside hilariously random pictures of the two interspersed. I guess this is what you have to do when there isn't any actual story to tell. Bischoff is still making executive decisions for some inexplicable reason. But the ends justify the means: Nash the booker, over his own objections, selflessly gives in to the demands, letters, calls, and telegrams from the fans insisting that he be made WCW World champion.
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Okay action but it looks like a far cry from their Nitro match. I don't have a problem with Bret's run-in but the Steiners beatdown is absurd, though it ranks way down on the list of infuriating things to happen on this show--even if you just limit it to stuff involving Rick Steiner.
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BY WHAT AUTHORITY CAN BISCHOFF REVERSE THIS DECISION?? Good Lord this is horrible, and once again, fuck St. Louis for cheering Bischoff like this. Of course as usual no one clued in the announcers so they don't know what exactly to sell--Schiavone manages to pick up on Flair clearly submitting, but fucking TENAY says he didn't hear it. Incredible--even if they *weren't* told you'd think Tenay could figure out how wrestling (or improv) works and go along with it. *None* of the announcers have any idea how to sell the post-match, and why should they?